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"Modern industrial civilization has developed within a certain system of convenient myths. The driving force of modern industrial civilization has been individual material gain, which is accepted as legitimate, even praise-worthy, on the grounds that private vices yield public benefits, in the classic formulation.

Now it's long been understood, very well, that a society that is based on this principle will destroy itself in time. It can only persist with whatever suffering and injustice it entails as long as it's possible to pretend that the destructive forces that humans create are limited, that the world is an infinite resource and that the world is an infinite garbage can.

At this stage of history, either one of two things is possible. Either the general population will take control of it's own destiny and will concern itself with community interests, guided by the values of solidarity and sympathy and concern for others, or alternatively there will be no destiny for anyone to control. As long as some specialized class is in a position of authority, it is going to set policy in the special interests that it serves. But the conditions of survival, let alone justice, require rational social planning in the interests of the community as a whole, and by now that means the global community.

The question is whether privileged elites should dominate mass communication, and should use this power as they tell us they must, namely to impose necessary illusions to manipulate and deceive the "stupid majority" and remove them from the public arena. This question in brief, is whether democracy and freedom are values to be preserved or threats to be avoided. In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured, they may well be essential to survival."

Noam Chomsky.
 
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"The question is whether privileged elites should dominate mass communication, and should use this power as they tell us they must, namely to impose necessary illusions to manipulate and deceive the "stupid majority" and remove them from the public arena. This question in brief, is whether democracy and freedom are values to be preserved or threats to be avoided. In this possibly terminal phase of human existence, democracy and freedom are more than values to be treasured, they may well be essential to survival."

Noam Chomsky.
the question imho is not whther they will dominate mass communciations, as they already do..moreover what will the stupid majority do to check this? And that i fear is nothing, the opiate of the masses is no longer religion, it is more likely to be quick fixes of blurry images of wealth, illusions of some form of self control and a blind vision of happiness
 

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the question imho is not whther they will dominate mass communciations, as they already do..moreover what will the stupid majority do to check this? And that i fear is nothing, the opiate of the masses is no longer religion, it is more likely to be quick fixes of blurry images of wealth, illusions of some form of self control and a blind vision of happiness

that's what Chomsky was saying. Ultimately he is referring to the need for a change in our value systems.
 

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that's what Chomsky was saying. Ultimately he is referring to the need for a change in our value systems.
i guess i am just pessimistic, i fear too many of the generation that should be driving the change are buying playstation 3s
 

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i guess i am just pessimistic, i fear too many of the generation that should be driving the change are buying playstation 3s

And with good reason too, we're not exactly setting a great example to future generations, are we?
 

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And with good reason too, we're not exactly setting a great example to future generations, are we?
i wonder if we have become too skeptical seeing as how the 60s was fun but changed very little and as we move forward events that are supposed to foster change ( Live Aid) simply serve to remind us that basically we globally dont seem to care long enough to keep the momentum going
 

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i wonder if we have become too skeptical seeing as how the 60s was fun but changed very little and as we move forward events that are supposed to foster change ( Live Aid) simply serve to remind us that basically we globally dont seem to care long enough to keep the momentum going

Definitely. What's worse of course is that the revolutionaries in the 60s sold out and became corporatised to the nth degree. But that's not to suggest the sixties didn't change anything, obviously highly important social reform happened in that decade. But, they didn't change the world as they wanted to.

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I would consider things like Live Aid to actually be part of the problem. Charity doesn't pose a solution, it's just sticking a band-aid on a problem, it can only ever last so long. Charity allows people to live under the illusion they are helping, when in fact they're perpetuating the problem.
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