When is enough money enough Mr. President?

[retro]

Obama - "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._a_certain_point_youve_made_enough_money.html

Says the man that made $5.5 million last year

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...-obamas-making-enough-money-too-92439904.html

 

[Accountable]

You'd think he'd take 5.2 of that & give it to Congress to pay down the debt. Isn't that what responsible rich people do?

 

[Tim]

He paid over $1.6 million in taxes.

I guess he's a better American than you guys are.

 

[itsmeJonB]

responsible rich people?

isnt that an oxymoron?

 

[Alien Allen]

responsible rich people?

isnt that an oxymoron?

Probably not any more so than a responsible politician

 

[retro]

He paid over $1.6 million in taxes.

I guess he's a better American than you guys are.

Impressive strawman

 

[Goat Whisperer]

He paid over $1.6 million in taxes.

I guess he's a better American than you guys are.

But don't our taxes pay his salary in the first place? :dunno

 

[itsmeJonB]

But don't our taxes pay his salary in the first place? :dunno

no he gets paid whether you pay your taxes or not, dont worry

 

[Accountable]

He paid over $1.6 million in taxes.

I guess he's a better American than you guys are.

Don't you keep up with your own talking points? It doesn't matter how much you give, only how much you come away with. He's a greedy eeeeeeeeeeevil rich guy & should have all his accounts frozen until the IRS determines how much of the government's money he will be allowed to keep.

 

[Azazel]

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[Haus]

People act like 5 million is shit load of money. In todays day and age and tomorrows it really is not.

People make more than that in a fucking day and do far less stressful job then running an already fucked up country

 

[retro]

People act like 5 million is shit load of money. In todays day and age and tomorrows it really is not.

People make more than that in a fucking day and do far less stressful job then running an already fucked up country

a few things. First of all, $5 million is a lot of money to a vast majority of the people in this country. Secondly, that $5 million isn't from his job, most of that money is actually from royalties from book sales and associated income. Furthermore, civil service isn't about how much money you can make out of it, and he was the one who ran for office, so the stress of running the country is a red herring. Finally, it still doesn't change the fact that the President of the United States is effectively saying that there should be a cap on how much money an individual should be allowed to make. Does that not strike you as more than slightly screwed up?

 

[Minor Axis]

Impressive strawman

Retro logic at work...

 

[retro]

Retro logic at work...

nah, just normal logic. How much in taxes were paid has nothing to do with the claim that one can earn "enough money". It's a side argument meant to distract from the point at hand, hence the reason it is a strawman. Thanks for playing though.

 

[Minor Axis]

Obama - "I Do Think At A Certain Point You've Made Enough Money"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi..._a_certain_point_youve_made_enough_money.html

Says the man that made $5.5 million last year

nah, just normal logic. How much in taxes were paid has nothing to do with the claim that one can earn "enough money". It's a side argument meant to distract from the point at hand, hence the reason it is a strawman. Thanks for playing though.

A better question would be when is enough Mr. Retro? Comparing real arguments vs distracting side arguments, now might be a good time to spell out what your real beef is with Obama's statement? Would the statement have been more acceptable if he only made 500k or is it never acceptable to say you can never make too much? What happens when what you make takes away from others, decimating their retirement plans so you can live like a king? No problem, or do morals actually have a place in this discussion? I suspect your strawman is trying to find any way to bash Obama while avoiding saying what you really mean. And thank you for playing!

 

[Accountable]

Morals have no place in legislation. If they did, we wouldn't separate Church and State.

 

[Minor Axis]

Morals have no place in legislation. If they did, we wouldn't separate Church and State.

Think very hard about your statement. You are proposing immoral legislation? Every decision we make has a moral basis. Speaking of church and state I'm going to post a topic on National Prayer Day in Religion sub forum.

 

[Accountable]

Think very hard about your statement. You are proposing immoral legislation? Every decision we make has a moral basis. Speaking of church and state I'm going to post a topic on National Prayer Day in Religion sub forum.

Not immoral, Mr 2-D; amoral. The job of the government is to protect the electorate, not to teach morality. Once again we're mistaking separation of Church & State and replacement of Church with State. The former is the American way; the latter is the Soviet way.

 

[Minor Axis]

Not immoral, Mr 2-D; amoral. The job of the government is to protect the electorate, not to teach morality. Once again we're mistaking separation of Church & State and replacement of Church with State. The former is the American way; the latter is the Soviet way.

You need to find a better way to say it. There is faith/religion/morality and there is morality without religion and it's possible for them to get all mixed together, but they don't have to be. Logical reasoning, no matter how anti-religious you are does not preclude morality. For example some conservatives believe if they are smart enough, then it's just fine if they live on the top of the heap and screw everyone not as smart as them. That is a moral basis having nothing to do with the standards religion is supposed to promote.

 

[retro]

A better question would be when is enough Mr. Retro? Comparing real arguments vs distracting side arguments, now might be a good time to spell out what your real beef is with Obama's statement? Would the statement have been more acceptable if he only made 500k or is it never acceptable to say you can never make too much? What happens when what you make takes away from others, decimating their retirement plans so you can live like a king? No problem, or do morals actually have a place in this discussion? I suspect your strawman is trying to find any way to bash Obama while avoiding saying what you really mean. And thank you for playing!

And now you're putting words in my mouth and introducing even more strawmen and red herrings into the argument. My issue is exactly how it sounds, what right does the President of the United States to tell people he thinks they've made enough money. It's pretty simple really, with none of the hidden meanings you've decided to imply.