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[All Else Failed]

YouTube - Howard Zinn Live on G Living


Watch it, thoughts?

 

[dt3]

I just made a long post and the damn board fucked up...

 

[videophotog]

How about a nice game of chess? ..... See the movie War Games, same concept.

 

[IntruderLS1]

I agreed with him on a single point. Everything else was pretty, but mis-guided.

His entire premise is built on the idea that war can never be justified because too many civilian casualties will forever be a factor due to our massive killing technological abilities.

He is correct that in the 'old days' the fighting was done on the battlefield, and soldiers killed soldiers. What he neglects to inform his audience of however is the massive genocide that would take place after the protecting army was destroyed. WWII was not won by killing the Axis armies, but by killing the Axis civilian support structure. The more we develop our technology, the less we have to kill civies, and the more we can concentrate on the military objectives. **Dark underbelly alert** The less we hurt the civilian population, the more we have to fight the insurgency afterwords. In WWII, the civilian population was so defeated, that peace followed conflict. I am very aware of Ware-wolf activity and sabotage that went on world wide, but for the most part, people were ready for peace. **End dark underbelly**

I agreed with him on the idea that government is an institution that has to be the voice of the people, and not of itself.

His reference to the War of Independence was absurd. IMO.

 

[All Else Failed]

I agreed with him on a single point. Everything else was pretty, but mis-guided.

His entire premise is built on the idea that war can never be justified because too many civilian casualties will forever be a factor due to our massive killing technological abilities.

He is correct that in the 'old days' the fighting was done on the battlefield, and soldiers killed soldiers. What he neglects to inform his audience of however is the massive genocide that would take place after the protecting army was destroyed. WWII was not won by killing the Axis armies, but by killing the Axis civilian support structure. The more we develop our technology, the less we have to kill civies, and the more we can concentrate on the military objectives. **Dark underbelly alert** The less we hurt the civilian population, the more we have to fight the insurgency afterwords. In WWII, the civilian population was so defeated, that peace followed conflict. I am very aware of Ware-wolf activity and sabotage that went on world wide, but for the most part, people were ready for peace. **End dark underbelly**

I agreed with him on the idea that government is an institution that has to be the voice of the people, and not of itself.

His reference to the War of Independence was absurd. IMO.

So you are saying we should target civilians?

 

[IntruderLS1]

Do you think that's what I am suggesting?

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Sounds like to me that Intruder is stating the exact opposite, AEF.

 

[All Else Failed]

Yes, I misread. My bad.

 

[Reaper]

And I don't think that government should be the voice of the every people. Because people want stupid things. They usually don't have amount of information to make proper decisions. They don't have patience and they are selfish. They are changing their minds so fast, that if the government would be their voice, everything would crash.

 

[All Else Failed]

And I don't think that government should be the voice of the every people. Because people want stupid things. They usually don't have amount of information to make proper decisions. They don't have patience and they are selfish. They are changing their minds so fast, that if the government would be their voice, everything would crash.

I would trust me neighbor before my congressman.