I should keep my views to myself but I can't. I find it terribly pathetic that children and adults cannot cop with life so they feel the need to take their own lives regardless of who else they may affect be it friends and family. People persevere through a lot worse shit than that 15 year old who was bullied and still live their lives. Where children are concerned, are they paying attention to their child? If they were that depressed and suicidal wouldn't they show signs?
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nope. someone who is seriously thinking suicide dont always show signs because they dont want anyone interfearing with there plans
Springsteen
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I dunno, maybe they're being abused by somebody and can't open up because their abuser has threatened them. And it gets so bad they feel they have to commit suicide to escape it. Ever considered that Dana?
GuesSAngel
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Besides, you really don't know what that person is going through....thinking how their family will react is the last thing on their mind...
As a person who almost tried it.... suicide is a very stupid thing to try....
first off, it is creepy to even think about it
second, trying to hang yourself makes you want to cry
third, anyone who tries it is an idiot
fourth, people who wish to try suicide should get some medical help.....
=) may everyone stay safe, and at peace....
first off, it is creepy to even think about it
second, trying to hang yourself makes you want to cry
third, anyone who tries it is an idiot
fourth, people who wish to try suicide should get some medical help.....
=) may everyone stay safe, and at peace....
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
You should have stopped right there.
What a pathetic life you must live.
You might join the real world one day and learn something about life.
Take a walk and fuck the cab and actually learn about that which is around you instead of sitting at a computer and coming up with crap like this.
no they dont always show signs
a 19 year old that was once my co-worker committed suicide the other day and no one saw it coming.
he didnt show signs of depression, he wasnt a 'cutter' he was just really quiet, so people figured he was shy. which he was.
who knows what the motives were other than clinical depression and even then even though it may had not been diagnosed he clearly had some issues
The first thing we are taught as psychology majors is that every person is a separate individual unrelated to any other person's problems. In order to be of any help to a patient we must accept them as they are and not judge them against some other measurement.
There are many things that can cause a person to want to kill themselves. People deal with stress differently. Some of it is bad parenting, some of it is a lack of parenting. We often go back to the parents because, in general, that is a child's main environment and were much of a child's concept of self comes from. That's a good size of the picture but not nearly all of it. Children and adults draw most of there perception of self from the messages they internalize from other people around them whether they realize it or not. For those unlucky young people that find themselves in a negative home environment or in a school where they are constantly ridiculed for one reason or another it's like running a gauntlet every day. It can have a lasting effect on there mental health and personal development.
This situation for some is not as traumatic for others.
Besides the negative input, having no healthy outlet leaves some children to be really hard on themselves and feel trapped alone in there own personal prison so to speak. Without that emotional need to feel comforted, loved and accepted fulfilled it's like a pressure cooker left alone to eventually explode. It could be very messy in the end.
It's hard to tell when or if someone will commit suicide. Simply recognizing when someone is not getting the kind of emotional support and acceptance is next to impossible when the person in question does not know or believe they can get it.They make an effort to suffer silently and put on a well adjusted image for others.(pride, culture, self loathing...other reasons to) It really isn't their fault nor is it entirely there parents fault. There are basic and intermediate levels of needs that need to be met for the majority of people to feel completely secure.(or so the generally accepted theory goes) Suicide is just one way some people try to have there needs met whether it's to draw attention to there problem or attempt to end there own suffering in lue of any meaningful help.
There are many roads to suicide depending on who and what you ask.
There are many things that can cause a person to want to kill themselves. People deal with stress differently. Some of it is bad parenting, some of it is a lack of parenting. We often go back to the parents because, in general, that is a child's main environment and were much of a child's concept of self comes from. That's a good size of the picture but not nearly all of it. Children and adults draw most of there perception of self from the messages they internalize from other people around them whether they realize it or not. For those unlucky young people that find themselves in a negative home environment or in a school where they are constantly ridiculed for one reason or another it's like running a gauntlet every day. It can have a lasting effect on there mental health and personal development.
This situation for some is not as traumatic for others.
Besides the negative input, having no healthy outlet leaves some children to be really hard on themselves and feel trapped alone in there own personal prison so to speak. Without that emotional need to feel comforted, loved and accepted fulfilled it's like a pressure cooker left alone to eventually explode. It could be very messy in the end.
It's hard to tell when or if someone will commit suicide. Simply recognizing when someone is not getting the kind of emotional support and acceptance is next to impossible when the person in question does not know or believe they can get it.They make an effort to suffer silently and put on a well adjusted image for others.(pride, culture, self loathing...other reasons to) It really isn't their fault nor is it entirely there parents fault. There are basic and intermediate levels of needs that need to be met for the majority of people to feel completely secure.(or so the generally accepted theory goes) Suicide is just one way some people try to have there needs met whether it's to draw attention to there problem or attempt to end there own suffering in lue of any meaningful help.
There are many roads to suicide depending on who and what you ask.
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Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
Pressure cooker is an excellent way to describe it.
I had an inlaw kill herself. The pain she had to be going thru at the time is unimaginable when you take into account the steps that she took that morning before lighting herself on fire.
I had an inlaw kill herself. The pain she had to be going thru at the time is unimaginable when you take into account the steps that she took that morning before lighting herself on fire.
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
oh and I think Donnie needs to resurrect his worst thread of the day.
This should be the first 3 time winner
This should be the first 3 time winner
The scary thing about it is females have more recently started to complete more of there attempted suicides. Women in general are employing more violent methods.
There used to be a quite noticeable contrast between men and women were men were more likely to complete suicide and women were more likely just to attempt suicide.
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Goat Whisperer
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Commiting suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, HOWEVER, most people about to commit suicide are not thinking that way. Yes it's illogical and stupid to commit suicide--but they're not thinking logically, the thoughts behind suicide is that something really bad is happening, they can't think of away to escape it, so they are pushed to killing themselves. Especially with young people, our brains haven't developed all the way and we have a hard time of thinking of the long time negative effects of our actions, like how it will effect our family, or how if we didn't do it, we could grow up and go to college where we might find friends... etc. Kids don't think that way, they think of the here and now, and that's why you see so many young people committing suicide when you think it's illogical, because to them it wasn't.
Goat Whisperer
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I think I won 3 times :24::24::24:
Growing up there was a family in our neighborhood with kids our age, and their grandpa lived with them. He was probably in his 70's or 80's and had been diagnosed with a terminal illness and not much time left to live. Rather than have his family watch him waste away and have to pay tons of medical bills, he said his goodbyes, went back to a lake nearby and shot himself. He went out on his own terms. Who the fuck is anybody to judge him for his decision?
i'm not judging him and if he was that bad off more power to him but he was also up there in age. I just can't wrap my head around the people who have their whole life to live who feel theres no way but to commit suicide to solve their problems. i know that I could never even think about taking my own life.
Alien Allen
Froggy the Prick
you have no idea how severe depression can be.
people tend to not commit suicide because they are happy eh
people tend to not commit suicide because they are happy eh
I think that suicide is wrong, obvious, I know
I think that people either procrastinate over problems they have, and don't know how to deal with the problems
Though I am really torn over the issue, due to a singer having done so, that is even before I knew the band existed...I still think it is wrong
I think that people either procrastinate over problems they have, and don't know how to deal with the problems
Though I am really torn over the issue, due to a singer having done so, that is even before I knew the band existed...I still think it is wrong
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