Universal Health Care...?

[Goat Whisperer]

I'm not sure exactly what universal health care is. From what i have heard it doesn't sound like a good idea. It means that when you want to go to see the doctor--you can but, it's probably more of a hassle, simply because you can. I mean think about all the times you probably would of gone to the hospital for things that didn't need to be checked out, and the reason you didn't go was because it would of cost money; with universal health care you would have gone, and thusly the waiting rooms would only get more full.

I understand that some people can't afford health care, but, who says anyone can afford taxes that are 20% more, It's like your just being forced to pay health care. The other thing I heard is that the doctors/offices you use are subject to change. Everyone knows it's really annoying to switch doctors plus get used to a knew doctor, but, what if you were doing that every single time you had a check-up and sometimes a doctor needs to string things together, like chronic back aches, with a bladder infection, means you have kidney failure, well how are they going to do that if you go to another doctor every time?

So to avoid switching doctors to often you pay for "personal" health insurance. So now your paying for health insurance that you don't use in your taxes, plus the personal health insurance your allowed to pay for. I dunno seems kind of... not good. If I have this totally wrong please tell me, we had a discussion about it in class and this is what I came back with.

 

[dt3]

My biggest problem with it is: why would we trust the government with something as important as this? I mean, look what they've done to Social Security. Why would I trust them with my health? Just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[GraceAbounds]

You don't have to trust them with your health. What we do need is a health insurance subsidize program of sorts. Keep free market going, but pass laws that keep insurance companies from not accepting preexisting conditions which stop people from getting insurance, and require that people have it if they are employed (insurance payments of your choice come directly out of your check). People need to have insurance. Our country will be healthier, medical bills should go down if everyone is paying into our health industry and not skipping out on their bills because the bills/price is exuberant due to no insurance and non coverage. This idea would provide health insurance to all that worked and to their families. This idea would improve our health care problems without the govt. actually controlling our health care. How is this possible? Companies would be taxed. This would not cost them extra as most companies are already paying out the but for crappy insurance already for their employees. This idea would actually help alleviate the burden and the expectation that companies provide insurance. It would also mean that employees could shop for any insurance policy they wanted instead of what the company offers. It would also stop insurance companies from screwing the little guy and make their price more competitive.

I'm blabbing ... but I did a whole research thing on this issue a couple of semesters back ... and we had to come up with an alternative. So this was the plan basically.

 

[Goat Whisperer]

You don't have to trust them with your health. What we do need is a health insurance subsidize program of sorts. Keep free market going, but pass laws that keep insurance companies from not accepting preexisting conditions which stop people from getting insurance, and require that people have it if they are employed (insurance payments of your choice come directly out of your check). People need to have insurance. Our country will be healthier, medical bills should go down if everyone is paying into our health industry and not skipping out on their bills because the bills/price is exuberant due to no insurance and non coverage. This idea would provide health insurance to all that worked and to their families. This idea would improve our health care problems without the govt. actually controlling our health care. How is this possible? Companies would be taxed. This would not cost them extra as most companies are already paying out the but for crappy insurance already for their employees. This idea would actually help alleviate the burden and the expectation that companies provide insurance. It would also mean that employees could shop for any insurance policy they wanted instead of what the company offers. It would also stop insurance companies from screwing the little guy and make their price more competitive.

I'm blabbing ... but I did a whole research thing on this issue a couple of semesters back ... and we had to come up with an alternative. So this was the plan basically.

Were any of the candidates supporting a plan like this?

After reading it I think the governemnt should make the insurance companies follow guidelines, AKA they can not reject someone for a pre-existing condition, they should have alternite care programs for thoughs who can not afford the regular ones, etc.

That's just me.

 

[nTejas]

Universal Health Care......kind of like the Canadian and Britain Health Care System....everyone is covered....supposedly you just show up at the Dr's Office and .....presto....your covered.

However, you had to vote for Hillary to get it....and since Obama is the Democratic nominee....you can forget about that happening....Obama says he is going to make health care affordable for everyone (if you want it).......affordable to some may not be affordable to others though ....

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Universal Health Care......kind of like the Canadian and Britain Health Care System....everyone is covered....supposedly you just show up at the Dr's Office and .....presto....your covered.

However, you had to vote for Hillary to get it....and since Obama is the Democratic nominee....you can forget about that happening....Obama says he is going to make health care affordable for everyone (if you want it).......affordable to some may not be affordable to others though ....

I just don't think universal health care is a good idea, and I am happy we got Obama in there.

 

[GraceAbounds]

Were any of the candidates supporting a plan like this?

Not that I know of. At least not the way I am describing it. Insurance lobbyists would not want this plan to take place as it would cut into their huge profit margins and make things fair for the general public.

 

[nTejas]

I just don't think universal health care is a good idea, and I am happy we got Obama in there.

Obama is talking about real change.......the first change he made....changing churches....or probably is in the process of changing churches since he turned his back on his church of 20 years....Now that's 'change' we can believe in.