Top 10: Kick-Ass Native Americans

[kelvin070]

This is educational. I just learned some american history. The title "Kick-Ass" is misleading. I salute the warriors.

The American Thanksgiving celebrates a heavily fictionalized story of pilgrims and Native Americans sitting down to a bountiful, peaceful feast. However, the first Thanksgiving probably consisted a handful of starving settlers dumbfounded that they were still alive and eating food previously thought to be inedible, like eel and corn. Thankfully, they had Native Americans like Squanto to show them what to eat to survive. They repaid Squanto and his people by enslaving, massacring and destroying their entire way of life. However, many great Native Americans refused to take it lying down. They fought back, proving themselves smarter and better warriors until the sheer number of Europeans and their diseases overwhelmed them.

Top 10: Kick-Ass Native Americans - AskMen.com

 

[kelvin070]

I have more ammunition now if anyone attacks me abt our human rights.

 

[Zorak]

Tecumseh and Crazy Horse were fantatic military leaders. As was Sitting Bull

 

[Zorak]

And I reckon the scariest thing you could ever see was Touch The Clouds running at you with war club lol

 

[dt3]

I have more ammunition now if anyone attacks me abt our human rights.

No, you don't. The American mistreatment of the natives was hundreds of years ago. We've moved on. Singapore still violates human rights every single day.

 

[kelvin070]

No, you don't. The American mistreatment of the natives was hundreds of years ago. We've moved on. Singapore still violates human rights every single day.

LMAO. thats very defensive of you. You can't erase history.

 

[Peter Parka]

So because a couple of hundred years ago the USA mistreated the native Americans, we should respect Singapore's current human rights violations? Sorry but I'm just not getting your point. :dunno

 

[Sneakiecat]

LMAO. thats very defensive of you. You can't erase history.

No, you can't, but we're learning from ours.

 

[sharpies]

couple of hundred years ago the USA mistreated the native Americans

Actually Pete it was the English, French & Americans... but there are many countries around today with abysmal Human Rights records. Shall we start in the Middles East, or Africa, or Asia, far too many to name.

 

[dt3]

LMAO. thats very defensive of you. You can't erase history.

We gave them casinos. What more could they want?

 

[Peter Parka]

We gave them casinos. What more could they want?

Dont forget they also have the right to chew gum!

 

[kelvin070]

This is dated 10th March 2006.
Violation of Human Rights of Native Americans

10 March 2006, Geneva Switzerland. Today, in an historic and strongly worded decision by the United Nations Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD) the United States was urged to "freeze", "desist" and "stop" actions being taken or threatened to be taken against the Western Shoshone Peoples of the Western Shoshone Nation. In its decision, CERD stressed the "nature and urgency" of the Shoshone situation informing the U.S. that it goes "well beyond" the normal reporting process and warrants immediate attention under the Committee's Early Warning and Urgent Action Procedure.

This monumental action challenges the US government's assertion of federal ownership of nearly 90% of Western Shoshone lands. The land base covers approximately 60 million acres, stretching across what is now referred to as the states of Nevada, Idaho, Utah and California. Western Shoshone rights to the land - which they continue to use, care for, and occupy today - were recognized by the United States in 1863 by the Treaty of Ruby Valley. The U.S. now claims these same lands as "public" or federal lands through an agency process and has denied Western Shoshone fair access to U.S. courts through that same process. The land base has been and continues to be used by the United States for military testing, open pit cyanide heap leach gold mining and nuclear waste disposal planning. The U.S. has engaged in military style seizures of Shoshone livestock, trespass fines in the millions of dollars and ongoing armed surveillance of Western Shoshone who continue to assert their original and treaty rights.

Violation of Human Rights of Native Americans

 

[dt3]

Eminent Domain Kelvin, look it up. It applies to every citizen, not just the Indians.

 

[kelvin070]

Eminent Domain Kelvin, look it up. It applies to every citizen, not just the Indians.

Eminent domain (United States, Canada), compulsory purchase (United Kingdom, New Zealand, Ireland), resumption/compulsory acquisition (Australia) or expropriation (South Africa and Canada's common law systems) is the inherent power of the state to seize a citizen's private property, expropriate property, or seize a citizen's rights in property with due monetary compensation, but without the owner's consent.

Without the owner's consent: Isnt that a violation of human rights???

 

[dt3]

Eminent domain (United States, Canada), compulsory purchase (United Kingdom, New Zealand, Ireland), resumption/compulsory acquisition (Australia) or expropriation (South Africa and Canada's common law systems) is the inherent power of the state to seize a citizen's private property, expropriate property, or seize a citizen's rights in property with due monetary compensation, but without the owner's consent.

Without the owner's consent: Isnt that a violation of human rights???

I view it more as a government illegally over-stepping it's bounds, but it's definitely wrong. Thing is, it happens a lot. When they do it to Joe Farmer to build an interstate, nobody cares. If they do it to an Indian tribe, the UN makes a resolution. My question is, what's the difference?

 

[kelvin070]

I view it more as a government illegally over-stepping it's bounds, but it's definitely wrong. Thing is, it happens a lot. When they do it to Joe Farmer to build an interstate, nobody cares. If they do it to an Indian tribe, the UN makes a resolution. My question is, what's the difference?

Expropriation only occurs in third world lawless countries.

 

[kelvin070]

I view it more as a government illegally over-stepping it's bounds, but it's definitely wrong. Thing is, it happens a lot. When they do it to Joe Farmer to build an interstate, nobody cares. If they do it to an Indian tribe, the UN makes a resolution. My question is, what's the difference?

There is a cause for concern if they do it to indigenous people cuz they live a spartan tribal life and its difficult for them to relocate and start all over again.

 

[dt3]

There is a cause for concern if they do it to indigenous people cuz they live a spartan tribal life and its difficult for them to relocate and start all over again.

It'd be just as horrible for a private citizen. You've spent your time and money paying for land and a house, and 90% of the time the government isn't going to pay full market-value. You can lose everything you own.

 

[sharpies]

It seemed ok to China, when they did it to Tibet & Myanmar (Burma). You just walk in & take the land that you want - if someone is there, you either kill them, enslave them or declare them less than human (it's what the African nations do). The American Indians are one of a number of indigenous peoples who had their land 'acquired', their biggest problem was that every time the govt gave them land, they then tried to take it back off them. ... & they call Indigenous Americans Indian Givers....????

 

[kelvin070]

It seemed ok to China, when they did it to Tibet & Myanmar (Burma). You just walk in & take the land that you want - if someone is there, you either kill them, enslave them or declare them less than human (it's what the African nations do). The American Indians are one of a number of indigenous peoples who had their land 'acquired', their biggest problem was that every time the govt gave them land, they then tried to take it back off them. ... & they call Indigenous Americans Indian Givers....????

The point is every country violates human rights in some way or other. US is no exception. Just tell Obama to stop touting human rights in other countries and just take care of his own turf.