Thoughts on the Israeli/Hezbollah scuffle.

[White2000GT]

I just read an article linked on Google news where Arabs and Muslims around the world are calling Israel's attack on Qana a war crime. Now, is it just me or does that seem a bit hipocritical? I mean, the Hezbollah fighters have been randomly firing rockets into Isreal for weeks. I'm sure some innocent civilians have been killed because of that. And let's not forget all the suicide bombers blowing themselves up on crowded buses and blowing up cars in crowded streets. Again, innocent civilians have died because of that.
So, it's ok for them to kill innocent people and it not be considered war crimes, but as soon as Israel rains a little fire and brimstone back on them they cry foul?
Israeli officials reported that the building they hit was being used as a launch point for one of Hezbollah's rocket launchers that, again, were being randomly fired into Israel. Had they known that so many families were sheltered there I am sure they would not have destroyed it. Besides, Hezbollah had to have known families were in that building, so why were they using it as a launch pad for their rockets? So who's really to blame for all those children getting killed?

 

[Hurt911gen]

I agree with you. the civilians will always suffer the most. remember August of 1945? it had to be done.

 

[!]

i saw a report yesterday with the Israeli UN rep. that said the building they struck "looked like" one used in previous attacks... but yeah you got to remember what happend last time Israel tried to destroy Hezbollah, a bunch of civilians were killed and the world made them end the war, so now they are under a microscope, and hey our prez is staying out of it right now because it is taking the heat away from the Iraq issue.

 

[White2000GT]

I can't shake the feeling that this is going to just keep getting worse and worse though. I figure it's only a matter of time before Iran and North Korea push us too far and we end up getting into a scrap with them too. I'd hate for that to happen, but I feel it is inevitable.

 

[R.A.T. Army]

See, in my opinion, I hate how war has rules and regulations. If you engage in any type of military activity, “official” or not, your civilians become a target. Like Hurt911gen said, remember 1945? That's how we won; we killed so many innocent people that the government surrendered. That's what open warfare is. Not to mention that a good portion of the middle east has been fighting over land that god gave them for thousands of years. God must not like them judging by that land. And since the introduction of suicide bombing innocent people have been dying every week...on all sides. Innocent people being killing in a war, especially one of this level of unorganization, is bound to happen and nothing more than collateral damage. Welcome to open warfare!

 

[sharpies]

This is one of the most complex situations in the world today.

I can kind of understand what Israel is doing - it's kind of hard to just accept that there is an organisation that wants to totally eradicate your whole country & that it is supported by a large proportion of people who live just down the road.

On the other hand it is not right to drop bombs on innocent men, women & children just because they live close to your enemy. There are still many Lebanese who do not support Hezbollah.

I don't think that there is much that can be done to stop this, though as it is about race as well as religion & it has been simmering for a long, long time.

The worst part, for Americans, is that everyone wants to blame America - now I know you guys are responsible for a lot of the world's problems but not this one. I think that some blame you for not joining in & the others blame you for having too much influence in the Middle East.

Allan

 

[White2000GT]

Re: RE: Thoughts on the Israeli/Hezbollah scuffle.

The worst part, for Americans, is that everyone wants to blame America - now I know you guys are responsible for a lot of the world's problems but not this one. I think that some blame you for not joining in & the others blame you for having too much influence in the Middle East.

Allan

You're right about that one. It seems, especially when it comes to Muslim countries, that whenever any turmoil breaks out the first thing that happens is the people take to the streets rioting and chanting "Death to America", even if we have nothing to do with whatever sparked them off in the first place.
It's funny...

 

[lemon]

war - it is human nature. accept it or kill yourself. :tard

 

[horseshoeing]

Kill them all, they all want to kill us

 

[sharpies]

I doubt very much that war is part of Human Nature. There are traits we have that have proven to be very valuable at certain times of our existence & that enable us to survive more easily. I do agree that aggression is one of those traits, but most wars are started over greed. We want what you have.

There have been many civilisations that have survived for long periods without war but were forced into it because of outside influences. If someone invades my home, I have a right to remove them, forcibly, if necessary.

I am beginning to wonder though if war is not the main driving force of civilisation. More advancements in medicine, engineering, science etc come from war efforts. All peace seems to bring is stagnation.

Look at the difference between China & Europe, both large areas with intelligent people & yet China virtually stopped developing once they had dealt with the Mongols, while Eurpean countries fought continuously for centuries bringing about the industrial age.

Allan

 

[horseshoeing]

Re: RE: Thoughts on the Israeli/Hezbollah scuffle.

If someone invades my home, I have a right to remove them, forcibly, if necessary.

Allan

Not in New york! The want you to run out the backdoor and run.

 

[Blackwater_GT]

There are a lot of domestic workers in Lebanon and in israel that are trapped there because they have absolutley no place to escape to. Most of them are women who got work visas to help support there familys in the phillippines and other poor countries. They get paid very kittle and give most of it back to there families. It's tragic.

 

[sharpies]

sharpies wrote:
If someone invades my home, I have a right to remove them, forcibly, if necessary.

Allan



Not in New york! The want you to run out the backdoor and run.

In most places you don't have that right legally, but I believe that you do morally. Whether it is done through legal or illegal means you still have a responsibility (mmm still not quite the term I'm looking for) to defend your property & loved ones.

Allan

 

[horseshoeing]

I hear you, just pointing out how messed up some laws are.