The Soldier's Experience: Iraq vs. Afghanistan

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Well, i will say this. I am a Proud American Soldier, I am a PFC/E-3 in the united states army. I am a Soldier-Medic. In April I will join the 1st Armored Division which is deployed in afghanistan. First and foremost I will say that I am a soldier and not a politician. It is not my job to decide or convince anyone for/against the war on terrorism(iraq/afghanistan). It is my job to follow orders, wheather I agree with them or not. My own family doesnt agree with the war. My family is Muslim, they trace their descendence from Abraham, Ishmael, etc.... Though they do not agree with the Taliban, but they do not like the fact that their country men are getting killed. The crazy thing about my job, is "Medic" and "Combat Medic" are civilian words. There is no such think as a medic or combat medic to the US ARMY, the proper word is Soldier-Medic. This is because we are Soldiers before we are Medics. Our first priority is to Deploy, Engage and Destroy the enimies of the United States Of America in close combat, then we will administer aid to our fellow battle buddies AND THE ENEMY(Geneva Law requires that we administer first-aid, even to the enemy) My job is to pretty much save everyone. No matter who they are. Civilian, Insurgent, American/Canadian/British Soldiers...etc.. Wheather I agree with the war or not, I can not answer. It is against UCMJ (Uniformed Code of Military Justice) for me to answer that question, i can get a charge for it. I am no longer a citizen of the United States, I am a soldier. I do not have any right that you all have...i just have more laws to follow. But consider this.... If you dont pay your taxes here.. what happens? You get a tax evasion charge if you have the money but choose not to. If your poor, you dont even pay taxes...really... Consider not paying taxes in Iraq.. guess what happens? Your child will taken from you and put into forced Child-Labor, a child prison, or torture until you pay up. You are subject to confinement, forced labor, torture or even execution for that. Did you know Saddam Hussein was the PRESIDENT of Iraq? it was a DEMOCRACY.. but what was the catch? You were watched when you voted...and if you didnt make the right choice... a wide veriety of things could happen..including death, and that not limited to just you..... and Afghanistan... I wish you knew what life was like in the Taliban Regime. They robbed the people and raped the women as they pleased. If a women takes her top off in public here, she might get an indecent exposure charge..if a women takes her hajib off she can get beaten by the religious police. Women cant work, and most of the women are widdowed because of their dead husbands..therefore they beg..or prostitute themselvs..and are usually executed or starve to death. There are no pictures or music allowed...anywhere...women arent allowed to be educated. If you caught trying to educate a women..thats punishable by death. Steal something from wal-mart here in the states, they will let you go..or worse yet u get a misdameanor. Steal something there and you get your hand cut off. Psotitutes were gathered together in the local soccer stadium and executed by firing squad to the public..but who can blame them..they can not work.. and gays guess what the taliban does to gays..they gather them up and collapse a building on them.

Everytime you go to wank your meat to porn, remember that there are people who arent even permitted to have a picture of their mother. Everytime one of you girls put nail polish on, remember that girls in afghanistan get their fingers cut off. All of you gay people who complain about not being able to get married or federal benifits or w/e, remember that gay people under the taliban get executed...

Its not about oil ,but freedom. Freedom is not free..not at all. Its something that people take for granted. The reason why you can all put your heads on a pillow tonight is because their are soldiers out there defending your freedom. Just remember, if we dont fight this battle now..on their soil. We will fight it on ours one day.
 

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Well, i will say this. I am a Proud American Soldier, I am a PFC/E-3 in the united states army. I am a Soldier-Medic. In April I will join the 1st Armored Division which is deployed in afghanistan. First and foremost I will say that I am a soldier and not a politician. It is not my job to decide or convince anyone for/against the war on terrorism(iraq/afghanistan). It is my job to follow orders, wheather I agree with them or not. My own family doesnt agree with the war. My family is Muslim, they trace their descendence from Abraham, Ishmael, etc.... Though they do not agree with the Taliban, but they do not like the fact that their country men are getting killed. The crazy thing about my job, is "Medic" and "Combat Medic" are civilian words. There is no such think as a medic or combat medic to the US ARMY, the proper word is Soldier-Medic. This is because we are Soldiers before we are Medics. Our first priority is to Deploy, Engage and Destroy the enimies of the United States Of America in close combat, then we will administer aid to our fellow battle buddies AND THE ENEMY(Geneva Law requires that we administer first-aid, even to the enemy) My job is to pretty much save everyone. No matter who they are. Civilian, Insurgent, American/Canadian/British Soldiers...etc.. Wheather I agree with the war or not, I can not answer. It is against UCMJ (Uniformed Code of Military Justice) for me to answer that question, i can get a charge for it. I am no longer a citizen of the United States, I am a soldier. I do not have any right that you all have...i just have more laws to follow. But consider this.... If you dont pay your taxes here.. what happens? You get a tax evasion charge if you have the money but choose not to. If your poor, you dont even pay taxes...really... Consider not paying taxes in Iraq.. guess what happens? Your child will taken from you and put into forced Child-Labor, a child prison, or torture until you pay up. You are subject to confinement, forced labor, torture or even execution for that. Did you know Saddam Hussein was the PRESIDENT of Iraq? it was a DEMOCRACY.. but what was the catch? You were watched when you voted...and if you didnt make the right choice... a wide veriety of things could happen..including death, and that not limited to just you..... and Afghanistan... I wish you knew what life was like in the Taliban Regime. They robbed the people and raped the women as they pleased. If a women takes her top off in public here, she might get an indecent exposure charge..if a women takes her hajib off she can get beaten by the religious police. Women cant work, and most of the women are widdowed because of their dead husbands..therefore they beg..or prostitute themselvs..and are usually executed or starve to death. There are no pictures or music allowed...anywhere...women arent allowed to be educated. If you caught trying to educate a women..thats punishable by death. Steal something from wal-mart here in the states, they will let you go..or worse yet u get a misdameanor. Steal something there and you get your hand cut off. Psotitutes were gathered together in the local soccer stadium and executed by firing squad to the public..but who can blame them..they can not work.. and gays guess what the taliban does to gays..they gather them up and collapse a building on them.

Everytime you go to wank your meat to porn, remember that there are people who arent even permitted to have a picture of their mother. Everytime one of you girls put nail polish on, remember that girls in afghanistan get their fingers cut off. All of you gay people who complain about not being able to get married or federal benifits or w/e, remember that gay people under the taliban get executed...

Its not about oil ,but freedom. Freedom is not free..not at all. Its something that people take for granted. The reason why you can all put your heads on a pillow tonight is because their are soldiers out there defending your freedom. Just remember, if we dont fight this battle now..on their soil. We will fight it on ours one day.


good post ...
 

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and Afghanistan... I wish you knew what life was like in the Taliban Regime. They robbed the people and raped the women as they pleased. If a women takes her top off in public here, she might get an indecent exposure charge..if a women takes her hajib off she can get beaten by the religious police. Women cant work, and most of the women are widdowed because of their dead husbands..therefore they beg..or prostitute themselvs..and are usually executed or starve to death. There are no pictures or music allowed...anywhere...women arent allowed to be educated. If you caught trying to educate a women..thats punishable by death. Steal something from wal-mart here in the states, they will let you go..or worse yet u get a misdameanor. Steal something there and you get your hand cut off. Psotitutes were gathered together in the local soccer stadium and executed by firing squad to the public..but who can blame them..they can not work.. and gays guess what the taliban does to gays..they gather them up and collapse a building on them.
Unfortunately, Afghanistan today is far from being a free society, in many aspects. Officially and constitutionally Afghanistan is still an Islamic Republic, heads of state must be of the Muslim faith.

In regards to women, although the constitution enshrines equal rights, regardless of gender, the federal government has passed legislation condoning marital rape, and child marriage. In contravention of what you have earlier said, married women are obligated to practice 'Purdah' - that is, a requirement for women to 'hide' themselves from men.

The current government still oppresses homosexuals. Granted, under Taliban rule, it was a capital offense. Today, homosexuality is punishable by a prison term.
The UN HRC (Human rights council) sums up the situation of humans rights in the country quite nicely..

United Nations Human Rights Council said:
However, there are still key challenges facing human rights in Afghanistan, including the existence of extensive corruption and lack of capacity in government institutions, the existence of corruption in some non-governmental organizations, insecurity, weakness of the rule of law, contradictions between a number of statutes with the Constitution, inadequate resources for the citizens, failure to properly and systematically observe human rights due to lack of human rights culture, increase in number of drug addicts, the appalling conditions of refugees and internally displaced persons, imbalanced development between urban and rural areas, the existence of high ratio of poverty and unemployment among citizens, unsuitable environment, weakness of the civil society, failure to implement transitional justice, impunity, violence against women and children, violation of human rights by terrorists and in some cases by international forces and inadequate attention to cultural rights of the citizens.

http://lib.ohchr.org/HRBodies/UPR/Documents/Session5/AF/A_HRC_WG6_5_AFG_1_E.pdf

Don't forget that the central government cannot exert control over the majority of Afghanistan. Most of the incidents you describe probably still happen in large parts of the country.
 
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The thing you can do is be appreciative. every soldier loves to be thanked for his service. we give up alot to be in the army. we are not apart of a democracy, we just defend one.
 

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The thing you can do is be appreciative. every soldier loves to be thanked for his service. we give up alot to be in the army. we are not apart of a democracy, we just defend one.
I appreciate your contribution to the nation. Thank You. I did my national service here too.
 

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We have a small contigent in Afghanistan. Its small, nevertheless its still a contribution.
DPM TEO VISITS SAF TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN
1. Last week, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence Teo Chee Hean visited Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) troops deployed in Afghanistan to get a first-hand feel of their operations in Oruzgan and Bamiyan province. He was accompanied by Chief of Army Major-General Neo Kian Hong and other senior SAF officers.

2. During the visit, Mr Teo met the SAF Weapon Locating Radar (WLR) team at their operating base in Tarin Kowt, the provincial capital of Oruzgan. Mr Teo was briefed on the WLR team's tasks and responsibilities by Team Commander MAJ Vincent Koh Han Seah, and visited the team at their deployment site. Mr Teo interacted with the SAF troops, who shared with him their operational experiences during the two months they had been there. Speaking to the 17-man WLR team, Mr Teo emphasised the important role that they were playing in Afghanistan and Singapore's overall contributions to international security operations. Mr Teo said: "I can see the tough and challenging conditions you operate under many miles from home. The SAF's deployments to Oruzgan and Bamiyan are important for the people of Afghanistan and are a part of Singapore's overall contribution to international security operations. I have full confidence that you will continue to do Singapore and the SAF proud in carrying out your duties vigilantly and professionally." The WLR team was deployed to Tarin Kowt in September this year to provide early warning of rocket attacks and enhance force protection measures for International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) personnel at the base. There will be a rotation of teams in January 2010 with the second team taking over till June 2010. While in Tarin Kowt, Mr Teo also visited the field hospital where a 20-man SAF medical team was deployed from November 2008 to May this year to provide emergency and trauma care and primary healthcare. The SAF will be deploying a medical and surgical team to this field hospital in Oruzgan in the coming months.

3. Mr Teo also visited the Winter Deployment Team (WDT) in Bamiyan led by Lieutenant-Colonel Andrew Chan. The 3-man WDT, deployed in November 2009, serves as part of the New Zealand Provincial Reconstruction Team, and works closely with the local government in the delivery and distribution of humanitarian aid donated by the SAF to the local populace. The WDT will be in Bamiyan till May next year. The WDT replaced a 6-man construction engineering team deployed to Bamiyan from April to October this year for 6-months, to supervise the construction of a Paediatric and Women's Ward extension for the Bamiyan Provincial Hospital, as well as a security wall around the Provincial Administrative Building.

4. The SAF has made deployments to Afghanistan since 2007 as part of Singapore's contributions to multinational stabilisation and reconstruction efforts there.
DPM TEO VISITS SAF TROOPS IN AFGHANISTAN
 
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