Senate Panel Approves Immigration Bill

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WASHINGTON (March 27) - The Senate Judiciary Committee approved election-year immigration legislation Monday that clears the way for millions of undocumented workers to seek U.S. citizenship without first having to leave the country.


After days of street demonstrations that stretched from California to the grounds of the U.S. Capitol, the committee also voted to strip out proposed criminal penalties for residents found to be in the United States illegally.


The panel's vote cleared the way for the full Senate to begin debate Tuesday on the emotional immigration issue.


"All Americans wanted fairness, and they got it this evening," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the Massachusetts Democrat who played a pivotal role in drafting the legislation.


Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, a Republican, voted for the bill but signaled that some of the provisions might be changed by the full Senate.


In general, the bill is designed to strengthen border patrol, create new opportunities for so-called guest workers and determine the legal future of the estimated 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally.

 

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so we law biding americans got fucked again :dunno

 

[TheRook]

Not sure how this fucks law abiding americans. I would like to hear your thoughts on that.
Making these people citezens takes alot of the burden off of americans by making these people pay taxes. One of the major issues of illegal aliens is the burden that thier medical care puts on the tax payers.
Im not for opening our borders at all. But this half in half out bullshit definately doesnt work. Either we close our borders or open them. at least this is a real decision, even if I dont agree with it.
Whats kinda funny is that all the illegals Ive known that come here just to work (and Im from California). Actually plan on going back to Mexico. Just here to make a living for a little while, save some dough, and head back to Mexico. I would like to see how many actually apply for citezenship. I would be willing to bet that not as many apply as good ole Teddy Kennedy think. But the money from the ones that do would help!

 

[lemon]

or we could spend some of the taxes to kick those freeloaders out ( those who dont work, and expect welfare etc, and dont know a lick of english )

 

[TheRook]

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or we could spend some of the taxes to kick those freeloaders out ( those who dont work, and expect welfare etc, and dont know a lick of english )

This is the solution that I would vote for

 

[same ole shit]

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Not sure how this fucks law abiding americans. I would like to hear your thoughts on that.
Making these people citezens takes alot of the burden off of americans by making these people pay taxes. One of the major issues of illegal aliens is the burden that thier medical care puts on the tax payers.
Im not for opening our borders at all. But this half in half out bullshit definately doesnt work. Either we close our borders or open them. at least this is a real decision, even if I dont agree with it.
Whats kinda funny is that all the illegals Ive known that come here just to work (and Im from California). Actually plan on going back to Mexico. Just here to make a living for a little while, save some dough, and head back to Mexico. I would like to see how many actually apply for citezenship. I would be willing to bet that not as many apply as good ole Teddy Kennedy think. But the money from the ones that do would help!

how may you ask....first then paying taxes on the most part of low paying jobs which I doubt have Insurance to begin with so there again we pay for health care and open up medicaid for the kids thur the WIC programs...so you see we are still in the hole as a taxpayer.....did you know there is a fund of over 1 billion dollars avalible to the immrating people thur undelivery taxes....how to stop the hiring of illegal is not to fine the companies but to pay all thier medical expense for the family which would hurt them far more than a fine that will get widdled down in court....make an illegal who has a child born here also illegal because it's like stealing and getting to keep what you stole....we don't need these workers as most hire for 2 reason 1 is low wages and 2 they hire them to feel good about thier self in what they think is helping someone...

 

[Nacil Buperetov]

I've never been able to form an opinion on the matter.

The illegals I've spent my life working with have always been incredible workers (better than they need to be) and have for the most part been law abiding.

I think they should spend the first three years on a sort of probation, occasionally checked in to make sure they're making money illegally and not feeding their children puppy chow. No gov't services (except emergency medical care).

I know we can't let people pour in, but at the same time, we are a nation of immigrants and I think it's unfair to slam the door behind us.

 

[Sim]

Medicaid and WIC are two different programs. Don't get them tangled up together. Medicaid is designed to help the children get adequate medical care from the time they are conceived until they turn 18. WIC is designed to help the children obtain food and important nutrients from conception until five years of age.

While I have issues paying taxes for those who aren't here legally in the first place, I'll still have the same issues for those who are here legally and abusing the system. It isn't so much the legality of it, but the flagrant abuse of such that is overwhelming. I simply don't enjoy shoveling out money for those who aren't needy to begin with. Those who are...I'm all for it...whether or not they speak our American tongue.

This bill is going to weed them out...those who CAN work, will, and those who cannot bring anything important to the US will be deported. If it strengthens border patrol, then it will be all the more better.

I'm pretty sure the majority of you won't even notice the differences, as those of us in the States along the border might see one thing or another change moreso than you. As the saying around here goes, Welcome to Texico!

 

[Sim]

I'm sitting here watching Hardball and a point that was mentioned was quite a valid one. No matter how they obtain their money, the vast majority of them spend it here.

This contributes money to our economy...and that's always a good thing.

 

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as for your coment on the wic thing we as tax payers pay for it...your right on too many legal american use it that are too damn lazy to work they use having kids as thier way to get free money....how to stop that is to say who the dad is or no benifits no if,and or buts.....if you have kids and are on welfare you have to use something so you can get pegnat til your off it

as for the comment on how they (illegal) work that's not the issue....they are law bidding if caught they get deported....the word is ILLEGAL......UNTIL ONE OF YOU HAS YOUR JOB TAKEN FROM YOU by a illegal coarse you wouldn't care much....why should illegals be grant a free rides they never died for our country....how about they serve 4 years in the military then after that they can stay in the military or return to the us with a green card? if they want freedom let them fight for it as we do....

 

[Hurt911gen]

my bro came back from school and said people were leaving during class to join the protest downtown

 

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dumbass :rofl