Satan. Justice delayed is justice denied. Why does God wait?

[Greatest I am]

Satan. Justice delayed is justice denied. Why does God wait?

God is to be our standard of justice and we are to emulate his ways.

He has condemned Satan to hell yet gave him dominion on earth instead of imposing his sentence. IOW. A reward.

No judge in their right mind would do so in our justice system.

Is God less responsible than our judges?

Is God denying justice by not imposing his sentence?

Why is God not imposing his sentence and instead, is rewarding Satan?

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DL

 

[doombug]

Maybe Satan is out on bail....

 

[Greatest I am]

Maybe Satan is out on bail....

Thanks for your ----------

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DL

 

[doombug]

Well GIA you have started another thread so you can preach. Since you are completely creating your story could you include some shoot outs and car chases this time to make it more interesting?....

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[BornReady]

I heard Satan rebelled against God because Satan didn't want to serve man. That actually seems like a reasonable objection to me. I don't want him to be punished on my account.

Edit: I didn't address your point with which I agree. Punishment and reward should be swift. I talked to a dog trainer once. She used rewards. She said the reward needed to be immediate at least at first. Of course, humans are not dogs but the same principle applies. I heard a psychologist say criminals are people who are not motivated by long term reward or punishment. They don't think about what the future consequences of today's actions will be.

 

[doombug]

GIA doesn't give much detail in these fictional conspiracy theories but I hope this one at least has a grassy knoll...

opcorn2:


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db

 

[Greatest I am]

I heard Satan rebelled against God because Satan didn't want to serve man. That actually seems like a reasonable objection to me. I don't want him to be punished on my account.

Edit: I didn't address your point with which I agree. Punishment and reward should be swift. I talked to a dog trainer once. She used rewards. She said the reward needed to be immediate at least at first. Of course, humans are not dogs but the same principle applies. I heard a psychologist say criminals are people who are not motivated by long term reward or punishment. They don't think about what the future consequences of today's actions will be.

Well put.
I can hear the outcry from victims if our judges were not more responsible than God.

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DL

 

[Greatest I am]

GIA doesn't give much detail in these fictional conspiracy theories but I hope this one at least has a grassy knoll...

opcorn2:

db

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. Eleanor Roosevelt


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DL

 

[doombug]

The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions. Leonardo da Vinci


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db

 

[Minor Axis]

The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions. Leonardo da Vinci


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db

Mr Open Minded, you really, really don't like it when your Bible and faith are questioned. The original post is not an attack, it's a big question, based on the Bible. Why did God treat Satan the way he did and how does it reflect in human's understanding of justice? And why aren't you at church?

 

[doombug]

Mr Open Minded, you really, really don't like it when your Bible and faith are questioned. The original post is not an attack, it's a big question, based on the Bible. Why did God treat Satan the way he did and how does it reflect in human's understanding of justice? And why aren't you at church?

Why do you feel the need to defend this guy's nonsense?

And why can't the person who posted it respond in the way you did? The problem I have with these threads is he only preaches his opinion not that he challenges the bible.

 

[Minor Axis]

Why do you feel the need to defend this guy's nonsense?

And why can't the person who posted it respond in the way you did? The problem I have with these threads is he only preaches his opinion not that he challenges the bible.

Well you've staked out a position of defending The Bible based on it's literal meaning. I think asking Christians to reflect on why Satan gets a pass and is allowed to run amuk on the Earth luring us very temptation prone humans is a good question. Why do you categorize it as nonsense?

 

[doombug]

Well you've staked out a position of defending The Bible based on it's literal meaning. I think asking Christians to reflect on why Satan gets a pass and is allowed to run amuk on the Earth luring us very temptation prone humans is a good question. Why do you categorize it as nonsense?

It is has no basis so far. GIA needs to show how he came to his conclusion. Preaching an opinion proves nothing so his premise is nonsense.

 

[doombug]

Mr Open Minded, you really, really don't like it when your Bible and faith are questioned.

I think it is really dishonest to make an assumption like this. You have nothing to base your statement on because I have never claimed the "bible and faith" as mine.

The original post is not an attack, it's a big question, based on the Bible. Why did God treat Satan the way he did and how does it reflect in human's understanding of justice? And why aren't you at church?

The "big questions" that GIA always asks are based on the bible. Why doesn't he quote the scriptures where he comes up with these questions so others can form their own opinion and also see how he reached his conclusion. It seems dishonest to me and since I find answers in truth I take issue with his method.

 

[Greatest I am]

I think it is really dishonest to make an assumption like this. You have nothing to base your statement on because I have never claimed the "bible and faith" as mine.



The "big questions" that GIA always asks are based on the bible. Why doesn't he quote the scriptures where he comes up with these questions so others can form their own opinion and also see how he reached his conclusion. It seems dishonest to me and since I find answers in truth I take issue with his method.

You attack the method because you cannot attack the premise with any aplomb.

If you do not want to accept standard Christian dogma then that is your problem.

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DL

 

[doombug]

You attack the method because you cannot attack the premise with any aplomb.

If you do not want to accept standard Christian dogma then that is your problem.

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DL

The first thing is to establish the validity of the premise. If the premise is based on a lie there is no need to debate it.

 

[Minor Axis]

The first thing is to establish the validity of the premise. If the premise is based on a lie there is no need to debate it.

You don't understand and probably never will. In these discussions it is the Bible that sets the standard and puts forth the premise that is ripe for questioning. That is all. GIA has put forth no premises of his own except to question the logic of what is stated in the Bible, stories that are embraced by the Christian community for the most part as gospel and divine truth.

 

[doombug]

You don't understand and probably never will. In these discussions it is the Bible that sets the standard and puts forth the premise that is ripe for questioning. That is all. GIA has put forth no premises of his own except to question the logic of what is stated in the Bible, stories that are embraced by the Christian community for the most part as gospel and divine truth.

And yet GIA doesn't provide quotes from the scriptures to back himself up. How does anyone know if his premises accurately represent what the bible says. That is a perfectly valid point and has an easy remedy: Show how you came to you conclusion. It is that simple. You are only trying to cover for GIA because you know he is full of crap.

 

[Minor Axis]

And yet GIA doesn't provide quotes from the scriptures to back himself up. How does anyone know if his premises accurately represent what the bible says. That is a perfectly valid point and has an easy remedy: Show how you came to you conclusion. It is that simple. You are only trying to cover for GIA because you know he is full of crap.

Look I wish you well, but there have been scriptures quoted all over the place. You are throwing a lot of noise into the conversation without much substance at this point. I'm getting fatigued going round'n round with you. Frankly I think GIA is too smart to engage. I'll let you two duke it out. :horse

 

[doombug]

Look I wish you well, but there have been scriptures quoted all over the place. You are throwing a lot of noise into the conversation without much substance at this point. I'm getting fatigued going round'n round with you. Frankly I think GIA is too smart to engage. I'll let you two duke it out. :horse

Ah yes, the forum "white flag".

Nah, the scriptures quoted fail to back up the premise. GIA knows this and has nothing. Being "too smart to engage" is just a flimsy excuse. If he had anything of substance he would have presented it by now. His premise is based on an assumption at best. It seems quite dishonest to me.