Rihanna and Chris Brown situation...thoughts?

[Panacea]

*Even if you don't like celebrities/know these people, I think most have an opinion on domestic violence situations like this.

If any don't know, Rihanna and Chris Brown are very young entertainers who dated in the past, but broke up a few years ago when Chris assaulted Rihanna and faced criminal charges. Now it appears the two are back together, at least friendly, they've been spotted at a hotel and parties and have collaborated on songs together.

There's always been a HUGE backlash against Chris (in my opinion, maybe more than he deserves idk) and now there's a huge backlash against Rihanna for associating with him.

It's my humble opinion both of these people are troubled, and it's not surprising she's back with him. Chris seems really volatile and Rihanna seems kinda...well...desperate? Still I don't think it's really our business enough to be so angry about it! Maybe they worked it out and have changed, who knows.

Is it enough to boycot them as artists?

 

[Niamh]

I'm not a fan of either musically, hadn't heard she was back with him but all sympathy I had for her is gone if she is.

 

[Aeval]

I don't like either one of them, I guess I'm just too old, but I will give them kudos for being talented.

I don't care if you're famous or not...being beaten by someone is a devastating experience and being told a few years later that fame and fortune is more important, to put all that in the past would have to do a number on her head. I agree with her seeming desperate and this collaboration sends a message that her self-worth isn't important, she isn't worthy unless she's in the headlines or on the charts. She's a product...not a person, or that's how appears to me.

Very sad.

 

[HK]

It's easy to look at anyone's relationship and say 'what are you, crazy?'


But I don't know, there's always way more to it than what you see in public. And I'm sure it's easy to think that maybe this person changed, or can change if they're sorry enough, and things will be different. Hell, maybe Chris Brown has gotten help and grown up a bit. I'm sure this is an unpopular view but he hit a woman once - does he deserve to die alone or something for that? Everyone makes stupid mistakes, and I'm sure some people have done worse than him even if they didn't lay their hands on someone.


I try not to let my opinion on someone's personal life affect whether or not I enjoy their material. I like Rihanna, I've bought her music before, probably still will. People still bought Michael Jackson's songs even after everyone suspected he was a child molester. What can you do? Me not buying a Chris Brown single isn't going to make him a better person.

 

[Panacea]

Ya, I'm not really a fan of their music, I mean some of both of their stuff is catchy but that's not really the genre I listen to most. I think Chris has a great voice and can dance, and Rihanna is really a talented entertainer.

I tend to agree with HK, it's like...Chris Brown is probably not a great guy, no. But he's young, and in my opinion he's not half as bad as a lot of these people we put on pedestals. I've always found the intensity of the public hatred for him a bit skewed, considering how much people seem to LOVE Charlie Sheen- who has done a lot worse and is a grown ass man.

I don't condone his behaviors, and I really hope he gets some help and straightens his ass out.

Rihanna kind of presents like she's a really strong, empowered woman...but...empowered to be slutty and submissive?? lol
I don't know.

I just find it odd these two are under so much scrutiny, while others are not. :dunno

 

[porterjack]

lest not we judge throwing stones in glass houses whilst meekly inheriting the earth blessed are the cheesemakers

which means

i dont think we can say based on what we read, only she knows if she trusts him and if he has made amends for his past actions, and one thing is for sure her "handlers" will have counselled her no doubt, and will be monitoring closely

the record companies wont make any money off of her if she ends up cancelling shows because of turmoil

 

[Galvatron]

Any woman that takes back a violent scum must have issues that clearly need dealing with,i am no expert but to put yourself back in the firing line must be due to insecurity issues of some kind or she is plain stupid,ok there is the possible chance he as changed his way's but the odds are against that and if she ends up his punch bag once again then their will be no sympathy coming from my direction.

But all that said i will put money on them just grabbing some free publicity and within a month when they have taken what they want from this they will go their separate ways and scheme up some other idea to keep their failing careers going for a few more months.

To be honest i am amazed it is such a hot topic in the news.

 

[Panacea]

But all that said i will put money on them just grabbing some free publicity and within a month when they have taken what they want from this they will go their separate ways and scheme up some other idea to keep their failing careers going for a few more months.

I agree for sure

To be honest i am amazed it is such a hot topic in the news.

Stuff like this always gets press, it's the definition of tabloid drama I'd say

 

[skyblue]

considering the abuse my ears get everytime rihannas on the radio...........never mind

 

[Kyle B]

considering the abuse my ears get everytime rihannas on the radio...........never mind

do you like the way it hurts?

 

[Niamh]

considering the abuse my ears get everytime rihannas on the radio...........never mind

Yeah, That S&M song really bothers me, I can't believe they play it on the radio when they'll censor songs like "Forget" You, tbh I'd rather my kids hear the word "Fuck" rather than hear them sing "Sex in the air I don't care I love the smell of it" :/

 

[Barney]

Famous people are strange, they usually do irracional things. Here in Spain, there's a big concern about domestic violence, and jail charges are imposed to those who hit a woman.

However, I have to say that lots of women, seems really stupids...let me explain before I mean that sometimes a violent relationships creates a strange link between the agressor and the woman, it's like a relationship of dependency. There are many cases, where the woman doesn't denounce to the police, or even defends the man when someone wants to take him away from her side...very odd...
I think this is the case between this two...

 

[Zorak]

Famous people are strange, they usually do irracional things. Here in Spain, there's a big concern about domestic violence, and jail charges are imposed to those who hit a woman.

However, I have to say that lots of women, seems really stupids...let me explain before I mean that sometimes a violent relationships creates a strange link between the agressor and the woman, it's like a relationship of dependency. There are many cases, where the woman doesn't denounce to the police, or even defends the man when someone wants to take him away from her side...very odd...
I think this is the case between this two...

It's not just a Spanish condition, but a human one.

Maybe these ladies are not entirely wrong, maybe their spouses are not "bad" people. Maybe they are. Not everyone is as in control of their emotion as they should be, and people can let distress cloud their better judgement. Of course this hypothetical excludes seriel offenders.

 

[Joe the meek]

Domestic violence, got to love it.

One reason to only call the cops and NOT physically get involved because you don't know who is going to jump you if you decide to help.

 

[skyblue]

Domestic violence, got to love it.

One reason to only call the cops and NOT physically get involved because you don't know who is going to jump you if you decide to help.

show me a man who hits a woman and claims to have fought men and i'll show you a liar....

 

[Kat]

Famous people are strange, they usually do irracional things. Here in Spain, there's a big concern about domestic violence, and jail charges are imposed to those who hit a woman.

However, I have to say that lots of women, seems really stupids...let me explain before I mean that sometimes a violent relationships creates a strange link between the agressor and the woman, it's like a relationship of dependency. There are many cases, where the woman doesn't denounce to the police, or even defends the man when someone wants to take him away from her side...very odd...
I think this is the case between this two...

It may seem odd to you, but most relationships that include physical/emotional abuse...started out with the guy being very loving. COming off as seeming to be the best guy in the world. In some case it is a matter of conditioning. When he starts with little things that first seperate you from the people you love (family or friends that would support you), then he will start in a subtle way to make the woman feel like shes not good enough, everything is her fault, and that she wont be able to survive without him, that she deserves every hit taken and doesnt deserve any better than what he chooses to give her. It may take years for it to get to the point of physical abuse. It is an extremly hard situation to get out of without the support of loved ones (which have been effectivly closed off by him already). It will take something huge to shake up a woman enough to truly "get" whats going on and to put her foot down. All too often they fall back into it sadly. One day I pray every woman gets away from their abuser.

(everything I say goes in opposite too for men. Cause I know men can be abused also)

I will say from personal experience, that day came when I flat out asked my ex what would he do if someone was treating our daughter the way he was treating me. His response...."nothing! Id say good job to him, if she was being as big of a bitch and loser as you are" (all because i tried to make him realize one night he went over the edge way too much when drinking)


I think that was truly the moment I knew without a doubt....id do anything to get away. I may not have had much self respect or care for myself at that point but id be damned before I let her grow up that way. That was the best decision of my life. I turned away and not once have i ever looked back.

AS much as I disagree with Rihannas choice...I feel for her. I do not think she should put herself in that position just for money. Who knows maybe he has changed in some ways...but that is something that never does...but if I were her Id seriously sit down and ask myself....."why?"

 

[MoonOwl]

A smart woman knows that if he's hit you once, he'll hit you again eventually.

 

[darkcgi]

I cant see why someone smart enough to get that far in music would turn around and be with someone that is known to be a looser
Its like Im sure there is a guy somewhere on this earth that would bow at her feet that is rich and doing well
and if he is not already a well know artist she can make him one

 

[Tangerine]

lest not we judge throwing stones in glass houses whilst meekly inheriting the earth blessed are the cheesemakers

which means

i dont think we can say based on what we read, only she knows if she trusts him and if he has made amends for his past actions, and one thing is for sure her "handlers" will have counselled her no doubt, and will be monitoring closely

the record companies wont make any money off of her if she ends up cancelling shows because of turmoil

I think when people choose to make their living by being a public personality (and the financial gains are massive) then they have to accept the possibility that their behaviors and actions CAN and usually DO cause people to stop "buying" them. Look at Tom Cruise, for example, or the Dixie Chicks. It's certainly the public's right to decide who they give their money too - and if they disagree with a person's actions or politics - well so be it.

As for the record companies, one minor technical correction - record labels make almost NOTHING off of concerts. That money is pretty much ALL the artists. So if she's cancelling shows, it hurts her more directly. The record label feels the pinch when people stop buying the CDs and MP3s and radio stop playing them.

 

[darkcgi]

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