Rant/Debate on equality!

[Dodge_Sniper]

Ok, so this is sort of like, a combination of me ranting, but also starting a debate. So bear with me here, it's kind of long.

So I'm sitting in 5th period today. Minding my own business. In fact, just finished presenting a project. Didn't say a single word to the girl sitting behind me. Didn't even look at her. What does she do? Out of fucking nowhere, she smacks me in the back of the head. I whip around, and in a bit of defense, I attempt to smack her on the side of the head as well. What happens? She grabs my wrist, and says, "If you fucking touch me, I'll get every guy in this school that I know to kill you".

What...the...fuck. First, she intentionally hits me for no reason, and then, when I attempt to defend myself, she threatens me. I repeat, what...the...fuck?!

Why do women think they are so fucking invincible? US Law states, and I'm quoting from an officer that told me this IN PERSON, it is JUST as illegal for a woman to hit a man, as it is for a man to hit a woman. So why do people still think it's so wrong to hit girls?

Women bitched and moaned in the old days, begging for equality as men. We gave it to them. Yet they STILL ask to be treated as women. How the fuck can we give you equality, and still treat you as a women? If you want equality, screw morality, if a girl hits me, I'll smack her right back.
Girls, you wanna know why men usually seem to get paid more than women? Here's a few reasons why:

-How many women do you see playing football?
-How many women do you see building these towers and cities hundreds of miles tall?
-How many women risk their lives racing in Nascar, dirt bike racing, etc.?

What jobs to women usually apply for? I've seen basketball, teachers, nurses, doctors, desk jobs, etc.

Men are the ones who usually take the dangerous jobs, busting their asses all day. So don't whine when we get paid $0.50 more than you.

I'm not trying to be sexist at all, but it just seems like women want equality, and then act retarded about it. If you want equality, then take it, but don't twist equality around and form it to your specifications. If a girl punches a guy, we shouldn't have to hold back. We should be allowed to wind our fist back and knock some teeth out as well!

Here's a simpler analogy. This is like if I went to the store, asked for exactly the same type of cake as a girl bought, and then started yelling at the manager, "THIS IS TOO GIRLY, IT'S GOT TOO MUCH DECORATION ON IT, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FRILLY LACE SHIT?! MAN THIS CAKE UP BITCH! ".

See? Women do the same basic thing with equality. They beg and beg, and we finally give it to them, and they start complaining that we treat them bad. Another great example is strength. Why is it that if a girl hits a guy, and he complains that it hurts, he's a pussy, but if a guy even taps a girl's hand, and she says it hurts, everybody calls abuse on the guy?

One more example I have, is a friend of mine, who posted something about SAW on MSN.

Alright, you all wanna know why I hate Eric so much since it seems to bother you all SO FUCKING MUCH? :mad

Well let's see....I don't appreciate a guy beating the living shit out of a girl. I've seen way too fucking much of that in my life, I don't need to see it in a fucking movie either. And when he was yelling "you're nothing bitch" and all that shit to her

Now, of course, I can't ever begin to imagine what Caitlin has ever gone through. But that is such a bullshit statement right there, no offense Caitlin. Just yesterday and today, I had that same girl that hit me today, all class period tell me that I was a freak, and that I scared her(When I don't ever even talk to her!), and I'm a psycho for liking movies like SAW, and don't fucking talk to her because I'm a freak, and blah blah fucking blah. I've had plenty of girls yell at me, "You're a fucking loser, you're shit, you're nothing!". I've even got in one or two fights with a girl before. Why is it that it's so wrong for a man to insult or beat on a girl, but girls can get away free with this shit?

I'll tell you why girls can pull all this shit. Because. People may think it does, but in today's society(Or at least in the US), equality is shit. It doesn't really exist at all. We may attempt to give women the same rights as men, but usually it doesn't work Also, please don't use that, "Oh, well women have to deal with child birth!" excuse. I can't even imagine how bad it must hurt, but the vagina is made specially to be very elastic, just for the sole purpose of child birth. Plus, women kick men in the nuts all the time. I can't say it's as bad as child birth, but it is the closest thing most guys will ever feel to giving birth!

Again, I am not trying to be sexist with this. So don't take it the wrong way.

I hate it so much how women think they deserve to be treated specially simply because of their gender. I'm not sexist at all, but for so many women to think they deserve to be treated like royalty because of their gender, be it "ladies first" or it being considered "rude" to ask a woman her age or it being considered blasphemy to hit a woman, is very annoying and is reverse sexism. It bugs the shit out of me how it's perfectly fine and acceptable for a woman to hit a man, but a man can't do the same to a woman.

I know some of you may denounce me as a sexist bastard for this post, but I'm not a sexist at all nor do I hate women. I only hate women who think they deserve to be treated like royalty because of their gender, and I'm the same way with men who think they're above women. This is the 21st century, and we should be past that kind of sexist bullshit now. I mean we've tried to give equal rights to everybody but those rights get abused and misused. I think women like that are an insult to decent women in our society who actually contribute to it and are good people who mean well.

Bottom line: any man who hits a woman is a coward, and any woman who hits a man is a bitch. Simple as that.

Now, for the debate part. What's you're opinions on equality? Do you agree with it, disagree, thing it should be changed, something added to it? Whatever!

 

[Boomer]

Tell you what. You let that chic taste yer hand and whoop any swingin dick that comes yer way. Thats how I'd handle that little number...

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Tell you what. You let that chic taste yer hand and whoop any swingin dick that comes yer way. Thats how I'd handle that little number...

:rofl2::rofl2:That is the first time I've literally laughed out loud in a long time! I'm deleting some of my sig, that's my new quote And I'll definately let her taste my hand the next time she pulls that shit!

I love your posts Boomer, you always crack me up dood

Edit: Damnit! I can't give you rep yet Boomz! I owe you some for that post!

 

[HisHoliness]

The double standard you're describing exists because of the inability of society to commit to new gender roles. Maybe I can explain.

As best I can reason, the struggle for women's equality is not about a 50/50 distribution with regard to wealth, titles, or social roles. Equality is about opportunity and choice.

Different people have different goals in life. Some women are content with staying home and raising kids and doing what would be considered a more traditional role, while there are other women who prefer to seek careers. I think the confusion results from trying to take these two polar opposites and come up with a general concept of how women wish to be treated.

In this case, the girl is just a bitch. I know many girls who thought they were God's gift to the world in high school -- my own sister included! I think it would be criminal to assume that most women think her actions are reasonable or forgivable.

 

[All Else Failed]

Ok, so this is sort of like, a combination of me ranting, but also starting a debate. So bear with me here, it's kind of long.

So I'm sitting in 5th period today. Minding my own business. In fact, just finished presenting a project. Didn't say a single word to the girl sitting behind me. Didn't even look at her. What does she do? Out of fucking nowhere, she smacks me in the back of the head. I whip around, and in a bit of defense, I attempt to smack her on the side of the head as well. What happens? She grabs my wrist, and says, "If you fucking touch me, I'll get every guy in this school that I know to kill you".

What...the...fuck. First, she intentionally hits me for no reason, and then, when I attempt to defend myself, she threatens me. I repeat, what...the...fuck?!

Why do women think they are so fucking invincible? US Law states, and I'm quoting from an officer that told me this IN PERSON, it is JUST as illegal for a woman to hit a man, as it is for a man to hit a woman. So why do people still think it's so wrong to hit girls?

Women bitched and moaned in the old days, begging for equality as men. We gave it to them. Yet they STILL ask to be treated as women. How the fuck can we give you equality, and still treat you as a women? If you want equality, screw morality, if a girl hits me, I'll smack her right back.
Girls, you wanna know why men usually seem to get paid more than women? Here's a few reasons why:

-How many women do you see playing football?
-How many women do you see building these towers and cities hundreds of miles tall?
-How many women risk their lives racing in Nascar, dirt bike racing, etc.?

What jobs to women usually apply for? I've seen basketball, teachers, nurses, doctors, desk jobs, etc.

Men are the ones who usually take the dangerous jobs, busting their asses all day. So don't whine when we get paid $0.50 more than you.

I'm not trying to be sexist at all, but it just seems like women want equality, and then act retarded about it. If you want equality, then take it, but don't twist equality around and form it to your specifications. If a girl punches a guy, we shouldn't have to hold back. We should be allowed to wind our fist back and knock some teeth out as well!

Here's a simpler analogy. This is like if I went to the store, asked for exactly the same type of cake as a girl bought, and then started yelling at the manager, "THIS IS TOO GIRLY, IT'S GOT TOO MUCH DECORATION ON IT, WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS FRILLY LACE SHIT?! MAN THIS CAKE UP BITCH! ".

See? Women do the same basic thing with equality. They beg and beg, and we finally give it to them, and they start complaining that we treat them bad. Another great example is strength. Why is it that if a girl hits a guy, and he complains that it hurts, he's a pussy, but if a guy even taps a girl's hand, and she says it hurts, everybody calls abuse on the guy?

One more example I have, is a friend of mine, who posted something about SAW on MSN.



Now, of course, I can't ever begin to imagine what Caitlin has ever gone through. But that is such a bullshit statement right there, no offense Caitlin. Just yesterday and today, I had that same girl that hit me today, all class period tell me that I was a freak, and that I scared her(When I don't ever even talk to her!), and I'm a psycho for liking movies like SAW, and don't fucking talk to her because I'm a freak, and blah blah fucking blah. I've had plenty of girls yell at me, "You're a fucking loser, you're shit, you're nothing!". I've even got in one or two fights with a girl before. Why is it that it's so wrong for a man to insult or beat on a girl, but girls can get away free with this shit?

I'll tell you why girls can pull all this shit. Because. People may think it does, but in today's society(Or at least in the US), equality is shit. It doesn't really exist at all. We may attempt to give women the same rights as men, but usually it doesn't work Also, please don't use that, "Oh, well women have to deal with child birth!" excuse. I can't even imagine how bad it must hurt, but the vagina is made specially to be very elastic, just for the sole purpose of child birth. Plus, women kick men in the nuts all the time. I can't say it's as bad as child birth, but it is the closest thing most guys will ever feel to giving birth!

Again, I am not trying to be sexist with this. So don't take it the wrong way.

I hate it so much how women think they deserve to be treated specially simply because of their gender. I'm not sexist at all, but for so many women to think they deserve to be treated like royalty because of their gender, be it "ladies first" or it being considered "rude" to ask a woman her age or it being considered blasphemy to hit a woman, is very annoying and is reverse sexism. It bugs the shit out of me how it's perfectly fine and acceptable for a woman to hit a man, but a man can't do the same to a woman.

I know some of you may denounce me as a sexist bastard for this post, but I'm not a sexist at all nor do I hate women. I only hate women who think they deserve to be treated like royalty because of their gender, and I'm the same way with men who think they're above women. This is the 21st century, and we should be past that kind of sexist bullshit now. I mean we've tried to give equal rights to everybody but those rights get abused and misused. I think women like that are an insult to decent women in our society who actually contribute to it and are good people who mean well.

Bottom line: any man who hits a woman is a coward, and any woman who hits a man is a bitch. Simple as that.

Now, for the debate part. What's you're opinions on equality? Do you agree with it, disagree, thing it should be changed, something added to it? Whatever!

"Women bitched and moaned in the old days, begging for equality as men. We gave it to them. Yet they STILL ask to be treated as women. How the fuck can we give you equality, and still treat you as a women? If you want equality, screw morality, if a girl hits me, I'll smack her right back.
Girls, you wanna know why men usually seem to get paid more than women? Here's a few reasons why:


You can't be serious with this post, man. You're incredibly sexist. HOW DARE women want equal rights, right? Us men were so generous in GIVING THEM (how disgusting is it that we say "we gave them rights", like rights are something that men alone can give out?) RIGHTS!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



-How many women do you see playing football?
-How many women do you see building these towers and cities hundreds of miles tall?
-How many women risk their lives racing in Nascar, dirt bike racing, etc.?


LMFAO this is your reasoning for paying women less? *edited*

 

[NightWarrior]

"Women bitched and moaned in the old days, begging for equality as men. We gave it to them. Yet they STILL ask to be treated as women. How the fuck can we give you equality, and still treat you as a women? If you want equality, screw morality, if a girl hits me, I'll smack her right back.
Girls, you wanna know why men usually seem to get paid more than women? Here's a few reasons why:


You can't be serious with this post, man. You're incredibly sexist. HOW DARE women want equal rights, right? Us men were so generous in GIVING THEM (how disgusting is it that we say "we gave them rights", like rights are something that men alone can give out?) RIGHTS!


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



-How many women do you see playing football?
-How many women do you see building these towers and cities hundreds of miles tall?
-How many women risk their lives racing in Nascar, dirt bike racing, etc.?


LMFAO this is your reasoning for paying women less? You're such a dumb little prick.

This is a debate section. Watch the name calling and personal attacks. If you don't like something he/she posts then simply leave the message thread. I was with you in your post until you had to resort to such childish behavior. Consider yourself warned.

 

[All Else Failed]

"I'm not trying to be sexist at all, but it just seems like women want equality, and then act retarded about it. If you want equality, then take it, but don't twist equality around and form it to your specifications. If a girl punches a guy, we shouldn't have to hold back. We should be allowed to wind our fist back and knock some teeth out as well! "



So, if a five foot two, 120 pound girl slaps you, you're going to knock her out? Dude, you are so tough teach me your secrets to being A MAN!

Real men control their anger and actions at all times.

 

[All Else Failed]

I would beg you to rethink that statement.
I believe he just doesn't know the point that you are insulting him about. Educate him first. If he still doesn't get it, then sling the mud.

I'm in a extremely bad mood tonight, I apologize, but this type of ignorance just isn't going to float with me right now.

 

[All Else Failed]

I just feel strongly about abuse towards women because I've had family members of the female gender get knocked around by men all their life, its a pretty big hot button with me....again, I apologize for the insult...

 

[All Else Failed]

But tell him WHY, dear. You MUST perhaps understand his frustration. And I don't think he means to dish out more punishment than he receives. I think he exaggerated that point.

You're too insulting, IMO. And I tell you that with respect. Stop to listen to what he feels first. You may be appalled. You may thing it's totally unlike anything you'd think or feel. But it is HIS feeling at the moment. Respect it and explain why tyou believe he is in error, rather than bashing him. That's a real man.

yeah, I know...I think he's just posting this because he is just blowing off steam, and I hope he really wouldn't haul off on a women....the same goes for women against men.

 

[All Else Failed]

I know I can be mean sometimes, but I have trouble censoring how I feel at times. I just...can't tolerate violence against women. At all.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

yeah, I know...I think he's just posting this because he is just blowing off steam, and I hope he really wouldn't haul off on a women....the same goes for women against men.

I am blowing off steam, but that doesn't mean I won't hit a girl in certain cases. And your reactions to this thread are further proving my evidence. Why are women so perfect? Why should they not be hit? I stated that she hit me, so I attempted to give her one right back. This time, she stopped me, I'm gonna let it go. But if it does happen again, you can be damn sure that wench'll go home with a black eye. If women want equality, then STOP saying, "I hate abuse against women!". Because you know what, that's not equality. That's favoring one sex above the other. I don't appreciate abuse towards either gender.

I don't give a shit about gender. If somebody kicks my ass, I'll kick their ass right back, girl or boy.

And as Breath said, don't just jump on me because you disagree, and especially don't call me a prick. This is a debate section, if you are gonna get too hot-headed, then leave. But if you're going to stay, be a man about it, and talk it out. Explain things, dont' just say, "You're a prick".

 

[GraceAbounds]

So I'm sitting in 5th period today. Minding my own business. In fact, just finished presenting a project. Didn't say a single word to the girl sitting behind me. Didn't even look at her. What does she do? Out of f*cking nowhere, she smacks me in the back of the head. I whip around, and in a bit of defense, I attempt to smack her on the side of the head as well.

Two wrongs don't make a right. You should have turned her self-righteous self into the teacher.

Why do women think they are so fucking invincible?

This is an ignorant generalized statement.

US Law states, and I'm quoting from an officer that told me this IN PERSON, it is JUST as illegal for a woman to hit a man, as it is for a man to hit a woman. So why do people still think it's so wrong to hit girls?

Read what you just wrote and it will answer your question.

Women bitched and moaned in the old days, begging for equality as men. We gave it to them. Yet they STILL ask to be treated as women. How the fuck can we give you equality, and still treat you as a women? If you want equality, screw morality, if a girl hits me, I'll smack her right back.
Girls, you wanna know why men usually seem to get paid more than women? Here's a few reasons why:

-How many women do you see playing football?
-How many women do you see building these towers and cities hundreds of miles tall?
-How many women risk their lives racing in Nascar, dirt bike racing, etc.?

What jobs to women usually apply for? I've seen basketball, teachers, nurses, doctors, desk jobs, etc.

Men are the ones who usually take the dangerous jobs, busting their asses all day. So don't whine when we get paid $0.50 more than you.

I'm not trying to be sexist at all, but it just seems like women want equality, and then act retarded about it. If you want equality, then take it, but don't twist equality around and form it to your specifications. If a girl punches a guy, we shouldn't have to hold back. We should be allowed to wind our fist back and knock some teeth out as well!

Your perspective and attitude regarding this subject is wrong and just plain scary.

Just yesterday and today, I had that same girl that hit me today, all class period tell me that I was a freak, and that I scared her(When I don't ever even talk to her!), and I'm a psycho for liking movies like SAW, and don't fucking talk to her because I'm a freak, and blah blah fucking blah. I've had plenty of girls yell at me, "You're a fucking loser, you're shit, you're nothing!". I've even got in one or two fights with a girl before. Why is it that it's so wrong for a man to insult or beat on a girl, but girls can get away free with this shit?

It seems that you have not been taught the proper skills to deal with people like this. Look at the way you are reacting though. You are getting all worked up over someone that is spewing hate. Don't let that own you. Have self-control over yourself and your emotions and do something 'right' about the situation.

I hate it so much how women think they deserve to be treated specially simply because of their gender. I'm not sexist at all, but for so many women to think they deserve to be treated like royalty because of their gender, be it "ladies first" or it being considered "rude" to ask a woman her age or it being considered blasphemy to hit a woman, is very annoying and is reverse sexism. It bugs the shit out of me how it's perfectly fine and acceptable for a woman to hit a man, but a man can't do the same to a woman.

I know some of you may denounce me as a sexist bastard for this post, but I'm not a sexist at all nor do I hate women. I only hate women who think they deserve to be treated like royalty because of their gender, and I'm the same way with men who think they're above women. This is the 21st century, and we should be past that kind of sexist bullshit now. I mean we've tried to give equal rights to everybody but those rights get abused and misused. I think women like that are an insult to decent women in our society who actually contribute to it and are good people who mean well.

It does not sound like you are dealing with women from what I read of your post. It sounds like you are dealing with teenage girls. Life is a maturing process. I'm sure those girl will mature as they grow up and most will hopefully not act that way, just as you will grow and mature and in 5 years the way you think (as presented in the thread) will have matured as well.

Now, for the debate part. What's you're opinions on equality? Do you agree with it, disagree, thing it should be changed, something added to it?

Men and women are different. These differences should be respected. They should not cause dissension. Differences between men and women should not interfere with each sex being treated with equal respect and equal opportunity.

 

[NightWarrior]

I'm proud of you Grace for even reading that garbage. Kudos to a well spoken last paragraph!

 

[GraceAbounds]

It was not easy reading through it. I was reading it and in my head I was thinking - "Is this the kind of crap (speaking of the situations and the mindsets Dodge sniper discribed) that my child is going to school with? As a parent to think about it in that fashion, as I'm sure you know, is really quite disturbing.

 

[NightWarrior]

It was not easy reading through it. I was reading it and in my head I was thinking - "Is this the kind of crap (speaking of the situations and the mindsets Dodge sniper discribed) that my child is going to school with? As a parent to think about it in that fashion, as I'm sure you know, is really quite disturbing.

Not only disturbing but frightening. I'm not sure I want this type of person running our country when we are in need of diapers.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Not only disturbing but frightening. I'm not sure I want this type of person running our country when we are in need of diapers.

Yes, because you know so much about me. Try going to my school for a week. All I said was that I'll defend myself if a girl hits me. And I've met plenty of grown women that act as described in my first post.

 

[Boomer]

I just feel strongly about abuse towards women because I've had family members of the female gender get knocked around by men all their life, its a pretty big hot button with me....again, I apologize for the insult...

I had a friend that got in a heated argument with his chic. He was gettin pissed so he was gonna go for a drive. He got halfway through the living room before she put a knife in his back and collapsed his lung. Chics are capable of shit. Cant count all of'em out. Shit, my cousin Billie has whooped more doods than chics. If a chic gon hurt me man, I hurt back. Not all the times. If she is hot I will use her hurtin me to get in her pants, but...yeah.:muscles: I am man, hear me roar. :tongue:

 

[All Else Failed]

I am blowing off steam, but that doesn't mean I won't hit a girl in certain cases. And your reactions to this thread are further proving my evidence. Why are women so perfect? Why should they not be hit? I stated that she hit me, so I attempted to give her one right back. This time, she stopped me, I'm gonna let it go. But if it does happen again, you can be damn sure that wench'll go home with a black eye. If women want equality, then STOP saying, "I hate abuse against women!". Because you know what, that's not equality. That's favoring one sex above the other. I don't appreciate abuse towards either gender.

I don't give a shit about gender. If somebody kicks my ass, I'll kick their ass right back, girl or boy.

And as Breath said, don't just jump on me because you disagree, and especially don't call me a prick. This is a debate section, if you are gonna get too hot-headed, then leave. But if you're going to stay, be a man about it, and talk it out. Explain things, dont' just say, "You're a prick".

Women aren't perfect, nor are men. A man must realize that they are physically stronger than the average female, normally. With this being said, I think it is the man's responsibility to restrain a female attacker, not knock her lights out. Its an overuse of power to do so.

Ok, she hit you, big deal. Be the man and not resort to meaningless violence against a weaker opponent.

You keep saying "if women want equality then they should stop crying about abuse!" which is absurd. Equal rights doesn't mean equality straight across the board in all aspects of life, believe it or not, and its not so absolute in every area of life as you want it to be. Women's rights deal with being equal in the work place and in society's view. This shouldn't pertain to violence. If a fully grown man needs to knock out a woman while he could just walk away or restrain her instead, he is a coward.


I also think its ironic that a person who will so easily use an overuse of of power against a weaker opponent will coach me on being a man.

 

[All Else Failed]

I had a friend that got in a heated argument with his chic. He was gettin pissed so he was gonna go for a drive. He got halfway through the living room before she put a knife in his back and collapsed his lung. Chics are capable of shit. Cant count all of'em out. Shit, my cousin Billie has whooped more doods than chics. If a chic gon hurt me man, I hurt back. Not all the times. If she is hot I will use her hurtin me to get in her pants, but...yeah.:muscles: I am man, hear me roar. :tongue:

Oh believe me boomer, I know some tough women that could kick my ass! lol

I'm just saying ON AVERAGE a male is stronger than a female, and with that strength comes responsibility on how and when to use it. I personally don't think a fully grown man has to bash a woman's teeth in just because she hit him.