Priest's mistresses write to the Pope

[edgray]

Italian priests' secret mistresses ask pope to scrap celibacy rule

Forty women send unprecedented letter to pontiff saying priests need to 'experience feelings, love and be loved'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/27/italian-priests-mistresses-letter-pope

Dozens of Italian women who have had relationships with Roman Catholic priests or lay monks have endorsed an open letter to the pope that calls for the abolition of the celibacy rule. The letter, thought by one signatory to be unprecedented, argues that a priest "needs to live with his fellow human beings, experience feelings, love and be loved".

It also pleads for understanding of those who "live out in secrecy those few moments the priest manages to grant [us] and experience on a daily basis the doubts, fears and insecurities of our men".

The issue was put back on the Vatican's agenda in March when one of Pope Benedict's senior advisers, Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, the archbishop of Vienna, said the abolition of the celibacy rule might curb sex abuse by priests, a suggestion he hastily withdrew after Benedict spoke up for "the principle of holy celibacy".

This is quite interesting. What do you think, should Priests be more like typical members of their community and experience love?

 

[Zorak]

My priest experienced plenty of love. And taught me a special way to shake hands.

 

[edgray]

My priest experienced plenty of love. And taught me a special way to shake hands.

I'll bet. Did he also teach you about kneeling properly when you pray? :24:

 

[Codrus]

Our Father
who should be in prison
hallowed be thy sins
thy penis come
thy William be done
in church as it is in the bedroom
give us this day our daily molesting
and forgive us our trespasses in peoples pants
as we want others to trespass against
and lead us not unto justice
but deliver us from prosecutors
for my wiener is the kingdom
with the power and the glory
fore ever and ever
Ahem

i would love to be able to give nun's a little slice of heaven....that would be awesome

 

[edgray]

i would love to be able to give nun's a little slice of heaven....that would be awesome

:homo:

 

[Peter Parka]

Far as I know, there's nothing in the Bible that says priests shouldn't be able to have a leg over. But then there's nothing in the Bible about Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny either.:dunno

 

[edgray]

 

[Zorak]

I know nuns can't have sex because they're supposed to be married to jesus.

Maybe priets are too? Fags.

 

[Minor Axis]

This is quite interesting. What do you think, should Priests be more like typical members of their community and experience love?

I'm not an expert on the issue, but at one point in time Priests were allowed to be married, sometime in the first century. My understanding of why it changed was1) the church wanted priests totally devoted to the church and 2) the church, not his family would inherit the priests estate upon passing.

 

[Peter Parka]

I'm not an expert on the issue, but at one point in time Priests were allowed to be married, sometime in the first century. My understanding of why it changed was1) the church wanted priests totally devoted to the church and 2) the church, not his family would inherit the priests estate upon passing.

So nothing at all to do with the Bible then?

 

[Minor Axis]

So nothing at all to do with the Bible then?

I think this rule was created by the Church for what ever their reasoning, it's not Bible based. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong. Priests in the early Catholic religion could be married.

 

[Francis]

This is quite interesting and follows what i have been taught about the rules of my religion..

Celibacy for priests is a discipline in the Roman Catholic Church, not a doctrine: in other words, a church regulation, but not an integral part of Church teaching. It is based upon the life of Christ and his celibate way of life. However the first pope, St. Peter, as well as many subsequent popes, bishops, and priests during the church's first 270 years were in fact married men, and often fathers. The practice of clerical continence, along with a prohibition of marriage by men once they were ordained a deacon, priest or bishop, is traceable from the time of the Council of Elvira. This law was reinforced in the Directa Decretal (385) and at the Council of Carthage in 390. The tradition of clerical continence developed into a practice of clerical celibacy (ordaining only unmarried men) from the eleventh century onward among Latin Rite Catholics and became a formal part of canon law in 1917. This law of clerical celibacy does not apply to Eastern Catholics. Until recently, the Eastern Catholic bishops of North America would generally ordain only unmarried men, for fear that married priests would create scandal. Since Vatican II's call for the restoration of Eastern Catholic traditions, a number of bishops have returned to the traditional practice of ordaining married men to the presbyterate. Bishops are still celibate and normally chosen from the ranks of monks.

In the Latin Rite exceptions are sometimes made. After the Second Vatican Council a general exception was made for the ordination as deacons of men of at least thirty-five years of age who are not intended to be ordained later as priests and whose wives consent to their ordination. Since the time of Pope Pius XII individual exceptions are sometimes made for former non-Catholic clergymen.

Because the rule of clerical celibacy is a law and not a doctrine, exceptions can be made, and it can, in principle, be changed at any time by the Pope. Nonetheless, both the present Pope, Benedict XVI, and his predecessor, spoke clearly of their understanding that the traditional practice is unlikely to change.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerical_celibacy

 

[hart]

I believe Priests should be able to marry, I could never understand how one is suppose to come for them for marriage counseling if they've never been married? I agree with Minor, the Catholic church stopped the practice of priests marrying to save the Church's money, the priests devotion to the church before their wife I think was secondary.

Of course, I'm not a big fan of the Catholic Church and my hubby was "handled" as a lad. He never told anyone like a good Catholic boy.

The whole issue to priest's not being able to marry seems to me to set them up for problems. They aren't even suppose to jack off, right? It's a wonder there haven't been more incidents than we know of yet, which is probably 1/25th of the actual occurences.

 

[Minor Axis]

I believe Priests should be able to marry, I could never understand how one is suppose to come for them for marriage counseling if they've never been married?

Exactly. You'd get slogans instead of first hand experience.

They aren't even suppose to jack off, right? It's a wonder there haven't been more incidents than we know of yet, which is probably 1/25th of the actual occurences.

I don't know. Maybe that is a test put on the priesthood by God!

 

[Francis]

I believe Priests should be able to marry, I could never understand how one is suppose to come for them for marriage counseling if they've never been married? I agree with Minor, the Catholic church stopped the practice of priests marrying to save the Church's money, the priests devotion to the church before their wife I think was secondary.

Of course, I'm not a big fan of the Catholic Church and my hubby was "handled" as a lad. He never told anyone like a good Catholic boy.

The whole issue to priest's not being able to marry seems to me to set them up for problems. They aren't even suppose to jack off, right? It's a wonder there haven't been more incidents than we know of yet, which is probably 1/25th of the actual occurences.

Of course it would be good for priest to be married but in my lifetime I doubt I will see it happen.. The church is way to stubborn to reverse it's policies..

As to the fact it has to do with money, I doubt it.. The Catholic church has always been rich and money is no factor. I think this has more to do with being jolted ( jealousy ) and wonder if being gay had anything to do with it.. In those times it was not spoken but was still a fact of life. Making it impossible for others to marry and spend time with a wife could have been the result of one jolted ( either from a woman or man ) way to get even with all the others that came after him as cardinals / priests and so on..

 

[Minor Axis]

Of course it would be good for priest to be married but in my lifetime I doubt I will see it happen.. The church is way to stubborn to reverse it's policies..

As to the fact it has to do with money, I doubt it.. The Catholic church has always been rich and money is no factor. I think this has more to do with being jolted ( jealousy ) and wonder if being gay had anything to do with it.. In those times it was not spoken but was still a fact of life. Making it impossible for others to marry and spend time with a wife could have been the result of one jolted ( either from a woman or man ) way to get even with all the others that came after him as cardinals / priests and so on..

I think that is quite an assumption. Much more likely that wives can cause trouble, in other words deflect the husbands attention from his job and this is the ultimate Men's club. Regarding inheritance, that was not my idea, I read it somewhere.

 

[Francis]

I think that is quite an assumption. Much more likely that wives can cause trouble, in other words deflect the husbands attention from his job and this is the ultimate Men's club. Regarding inheritance, that was not my idea, I read it somewhere.

Of course it is quite an assumption. Were any of us truly there and in the mind of the one who made the final decission ? NO.. So no matter what evidence anyone brings there will always be doubt and new suggestions..