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In this day and age, we all know that racism and sexism is bad but there seems to be a lot of, what I will call, poshism, around. I'm talking about peoples seemingly irrational hatred of someone because they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth, went to a good school or speak well. Take some of the critism people level at David Cameron. Fine, level your disagreements at his policies but why cant people stand him just because he went to Eton? Personally I've never seen that going to a good school automatically will make you unfit to run a country.:dunno
 
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I would never judge anyone by this. It's not their fault they happened to be born like that.

What I would say is I dislike the people who think they are better than someone else because of the fact they went to a better school etc.

Which Cameron doesn't.
 

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I find that upper class people are generally the least snobby and generally dont give a fuck what social class you come from. The middle class tend to be jealous of the upper class and make themselves feel better by looking down on the working class and the working class tend to hate the upper class too.
 

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I find that upper class people are generally the least snobby and generally dont give a fuck what social class you come from. The middle class tend to be jealous of the upper class and make themselves feel better by looking down on the working class and the working class tend to hate the upper class too.

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I don't hate extremely rich people in general but I did hate Bill Gates for years. He wouldn't give anything back to the industry that made him rich. Instead, when everyone else was embracing open systems he kept Microsoft as proprietary as possible in an attempt to maximize his profit.

He finally came around and has even become very charitable. Perhaps he's trying to make amends for his earlier prickish behavior. Anyway, I don't hate him anymore... I even kind of like him now.

Am I jealous of him? Hell yeah!

Gates doesn't really fit the stereotype for poshism since he's a self made man. Anyway, I agree that poshism is wrong. We shouldn't judge someone by how much money they have or don't have.
 

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Eh, I am split on the issue.

I have no problem with people who work hard, become successful, make a lot of money, and spend their money. I believe that people should enjoy the benefits of working hard and taking risks. Furthermore, I don't believe people should tell those who have a lot of money how they ought to spend it.

However, I can understand the resentment that people have towards those who are showered with money without earning it. It makes sense that middle class people may ask: Why is it that I've had to work all my life and struggle to be where I am, whereas that person is living financially better, yet hasn't worked as hard as me?
 

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In this day and age, we all know that racism and sexism is bad but there seems to be a lot of, what I will call, poshism, around. I'm talking about peoples seemingly irrational hatred of someone because they were born with a silver spoon in their mouth, went to a good school or speak well. Take some of the critism people level at David Cameron. Fine, level your disagreements at his policies but why cant people stand him just because he went to Eton? Personally I've never seen that going to a good school automatically will make you unfit to run a country.:dunno

Well, it's more to do with the idea that Cameron and co are out of touch with the common person.

Something he's trying his best to remedy by getting down with the kids, and their Monkey Arctics....
 

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i have an issue when rich kids whos daddy is paying for everything come into my work and are rude to me and talk like they are above me. One girl hit a member of staff because she was refused a drink for not having ID, just cos she was too used to getting her own way. i have a problem when it comes to people being brats through bad parenting. throwing money at them will not make your kids grow up well. it will teach them they can have what ever they want.
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that is my experience of some of the upperclass kids i have come across.
99% of them are fine.
 

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Well, it's more to do with the idea that Cameron and co are out of touch with the common person.

Something he's trying his best to remedy by getting down with the kids, and their Monkey Arctics....


I thought that was supposed to be Gordon Browns favorite group?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5375988.stm

Strange how he dosen't get picked on nearly as much as Cameron for being out of touch with the common people despite his cringeworthy efforts to try and appear cool.
 

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They both do it to be honest. And I think I just got confused, I'll ahve to look for the desert island discs he did to see who he did say.

But the answer to what you propose is simple, people can tell Brown is a lot more genuine than Cameron. As Brown put it "He lacks the art of communication, but, alas, not the gift of speech." The fact that people don't like Brown anyway doesn't have much bearing on that.

We all remember the twoddle about "Big Society" and "Fossil Fuel dictators in a carbon conscience world" Wtf do they even mean lol
 

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4585264.stm

So David Cameron is a 43 year old man who likes the Smiths, Blur and Bob Dylan, what's so unrealistic about that? Oh yeah, silly me, he's posh so must only like opera and classical.:rolleyes:
He also talks with some knowledge about the music he likes unlike Gordon Brown who cant even name a song by his so called favorite group, the Arctic Monkeys.
 

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There is people from different class that are looking down to others ..
if someone have money good to them i don't care how they enjoy it ..
what i hate the most is people that study think are something better .... nice to be proud of what you achieve but
just because someone end up having not a nice job does not mean is any less
but most people that look down a lot to others are the ones that are well of but not rich..

on the other hand is rich kids i don't think they look down to other just grow up with everything that do not understand most time and used to have everything
but when you start from nothing and you end up well of and then change and look down to others thats worse
 

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I find that upper class people are generally the least snobby and generally dont give a fuck what social class you come from. The middle class tend to be jealous of the upper class and make themselves feel better by looking down on the working class and the working class tend to hate the upper class too.

I don't think it's fair to put blanket labels on people based on their class. I think you'll find both gracious and snobby rich folk out there, along with gracious and jealous working class.

If I apply psychology to this, I'd say when you have it all you can afford to be gracious although don't say there are not rich people who are not snobs and don't have themselves up on pedestals as in being the privileged. And would you be surprised that working class are (if they are) jealous of those who have a privileged life style?
 

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I can see you're point here, I'm probably guilty of poshism myself, I went to a really bad school, the reputation was horrible and recently having met some ppl who went to a private school in the area I've seen that kind of thing happen!!

They assumed I would be rude, pushy and not have any values when it came to work because of that reputation, I tend to take ppl on how they treat me no matter what, if ppl wanna be stuck up then it's their downfall, I cant be giving time of day to ppl like that because if someone can look down their nose at you why should you bother with them?

I think sometimes it's a case of jealousy in some people, some people have it easy in life and can live life off of other peoples living and others struggle their whole lives with trying to make a living, I remember growing up and wanting everything that all my friends had but we've never been in a position to have anything mega fancy because I've got quite a big family.

I know if I was in the position where I could live comfortably when I'm ready to have children I wouldn't spoil them, I would make sure they knew the value of money and make sure they realised that in life you need to earn the things you want in life because I think when parents do go overboard and spoilt children rotten it's such a big drop when they do eventually get out in the real world and have to earn money themselves and I think that is quite bad parenting in that case.


 
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