On Socialism in Russia

[edgray]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQsceZ9skQI

Everyone's favourite Noam Chomsky explains in 10 minutes why the Russian perversion of socialism was called socialism, and what was achieved by doing so. Excerpt taken from Manufacturing Consent.

An interesting look at propaganda and totalitarianism.

 

[pjbleek]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQsceZ9skQI

Everyone's favourite Noam Chomsky explains in 10 minutes why the Russian perversion of socialism was called socialism, and what was achieved by doing so. Excerpt taken from Manufacturing Consent.

An interesting look at propaganda and totalitarianism.

sad fact of life in the education of the USA. they do not discuss the Russian Revolution in US history courses, if they do, they brush over the fact of what Lenin did.

 

[edgray]

sad fact of life in the education of the USA. they do not discuss the Russian Revolution in US history courses, if they do, they brush over the fact of what Lenin did.

It's the same in Britain pretty much, In spite of Russia being one of the UK's older allies, we learnt very little about it. I remember having a debate after reading Animal Farm, and that's it.

Chomsky's thesis here is interesting to say the least.

 

[pjbleek]

makes you wonder how the Russians perceive American history or world history for that matter

 

[Alien Allen]

Libertarian Socialism

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What a crock of shit

But then what do you expect from Chumpsky

 

[Peter Parka]

It's the same in Britain pretty much, In spite of Russia being one of the UK's older allies, we learnt very little about it. I remember having a debate after reading Animal Farm, and that's it.

Chomsky's thesis here is interesting to say the least.

Really? Things must have changed alot in the last 20 years since I left school. I studied the Russian revolution in detail for my History GCSE. Sad if that's changed.:thumbdown

 

[All Else Failed]

sad fact of life in the education of the USA. they do not discuss the Russian Revolution in US history courses, if they do, they brush over the fact of what Lenin did.

idk, I was taught all about it in my education




The Commies were worse than the Nazis. Read "Hellstorm: The death of Nazi Germany, 1944-1947. It is the ONLY book I have ever read where I had to put it down and walk away from it. It details the various Russian war crimes that were perpetrated against the German civilian population during and after the war.

 

[edgray]

makes you wonder how the Russians perceive American history or world history for that matter

That would be very interesting. What's even more interesting is how Russian's perceive Russian history. I used to work with a Russian woman and hearing her opinion was really very interesting. She was gutted when communism ended, which is why she left.

Libertarian Socialism

:24::24::24:

What a crock of shit

But then what do you expect from Chumpsky

There there. We know it's a little over your head. Why don't you go play with some toys whilst the adults have a discussion?

Really? Things must have changed alot in the last 20 years since I left school. I studied the Russian revolution in detail for my History GCSE. Sad if that's changed.:thumbdown

I left school in '92. We did US history.

 

[Kyle B]

I left school in '92. We did US history.

Do schools in the UK teach their students US history as well as the history of the UK?

 

[edgray]

Do schools in the UK teach their students US history as well as the history of the UK?

Yeah we did WWI, the industrial revolution, the Tudors, and right back to pre-roman times.

 

[Kyle B]

Yeah we did WWI, the industrial revolution, the Tudors, and right back to pre-roman times.

In NY you have to do a minimum of two years of World History and one of US. Mind you, World History is merely European history with some bits of info about Asia/So. Am./Africa sprinkled in.

 

[edgray]

In NY you have to do a minimum of two years of World History and one of US. Mind you, World History is merely European history with some bits of info about Asia/So. Am./Africa sprinkled in.

we did the slave trade too, and the Chinese revolution, that's it for global history tho.

 

[Peter Parka]

I left school in 91 and for my GCSE History I did Germany under the Nazis, Italy under the Fascists, Russia - the Communist revolution and the Israeli - Arab conflict.

 

[edgray]

I left school in 91 and for my GCSE History I did Germany under the Nazis, Italy under the Fascists, Russia - the Communist revolution and the Israeli - Arab conflict.

We didn't do any of that!

Is the curriculum in the UK national in regards to history?

 

[Peter Parka]

We didn't do any of that!

Is the curriculum in the UK national in regards to history?

I've no idea, mate, not having kids, I dont really pay much attention to it. All I know is what I did 20 odd years ago at school.

 

[edgray]

I've no idea, mate, not having kids, I dont really pay much attention to it. All I know is what I did 20 odd years ago at school.

it's weird. I remember some of the topics we had to choose to study as a class, we voted on them, like the Chinese Revolution was a popular class choice, as was studying the plains indians in the US.

 

[Peter Parka]

I dont remember having a choise on what we studied, it was so long ago, I may have forgot we did but I really dont remember choosing the topics.