On growing up to be, as God says, one of us.

[Greatest I am]

On growing up to be, as God says, one of us.

Gen. 3 22
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,

If God were here, he would tell you that if you do not do as shown belowe and conquer God, you will never have an apotheosis and begin to mirror his thinking. That is the only way to know God. You have to grow into God just as Jesus did.

Hebr. 5 8
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
9And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Note the word became.

Matt. 10 38
And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

Note how we are to carry a burden. Not have him carry ours as our vicarious scapegoat and sacrifice.

I submit that Jesus’ burden and ours are the same. He showed that he learned of God only with a struggle and only after doing so, could he then interpret scriptures and argue with the Rabbis of the day.
The Rabbis did not like his giving all men a route to God that did not need the temple hierarchy and the funding they enjoyed. Jesus had in fact become a Gnostic Christian thanks to his apotheosis. This is likely why he was killed.

He said that we are all son’s of God. Nothing has changed except that we have all forgotten that fact. Scriptures are full of such references.

How do you conquer God the way Jesus did?
By accepting the fact that you are in control in a natural world without any supernatural aspect. No fantasy, miracles or magic.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU[/URL]

Or as A & E and Jesus did, study good and evil till you have a firm paradigm and then make you challenge or petition to God by seeking and knocking hard on his door. If you have things right, it will be opened to you.

This you must do to have God say to you.

Gen 3 22 Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:

God says you can and so does Jesus.
This bishop tells you how it is done.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc[/URL]

Trust me, apotheosis is worth the effort.

Regards
DL

 

[BornReady]

Trust me, apotheosis is worth the effort.

Apotheosis makes sense in the sense humans are the highest known form of life. Of course, this is a big universe and it's possible higher form(s) exist.

However, as far as humans being god-like... nah. At least not in the traditional sense. No one is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, etc. The traditional god is the yearning of a man to make his timorous life secure. These claims are similar to a child's playground antic of "my dad can beat up your dad." Translate that to "my god can beat up your god" for adults.

 

[Greatest I am]

Apotheosis makes sense in the sense humans are the highest known form of life. Of course, this is a big universe and it's possible higher form(s) exist.

However, as far as humans being god-like... nah. At least not in the traditional sense. No one is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, omnibenevolent, etc. The traditional god is the yearning of a man to make his timorous life secure. These claims are similar to a child's playground antic of "my dad can beat up your dad." Translate that to "my god can beat up your god" for adults.

You are getting the idea for sure.

And you are right on the omni this and that.

That is why I made sure I inserted -----"By accepting the fact that you are in control in a natural world without any supernatural aspect. No fantasy, miracles or magic."

Finding God is not a pissing contest. It is growing up.

Regards
DL

 

[BornReady]

Finding God is not a pissing contest. It is growing up.

:thumbup I like that.

 

[Greatest I am]

:thumbup I like that.

I blush. Thanks.

I must have done well on this O P.

Note how the theist are not touching this O P with a ten foot pole.
That or they know better than to tackle me.
I call that sucess.

Regards
DL

 

[BornReady]

Note how the theist are not touching this O P with a ten foot pole.

In my experience, most Christians have little interest in religion. This is not to say they are insincere. Just they don't really investigate and ponder the doctrines of Christianity much less any other religion. I don't know if you go to church but the typical conversations after church are not about theology. The hot topics are football, politics, vacations, BBQ, etc. Nothing wrong with that. Just don't expect most Christians to discuss theology with you.

 

[Greatest I am]

In my experience, most Christians have little interest in religion. This is not to say they are insincere. Just they don't really investigate and ponder the doctrines of Christianity much less any other religion. I don't know if you go to church but the typical conversations after church are not about theology. The hot topics are football, politics, vacations, BBQ, etc. Nothing wrong with that. Just don't expect most Christians to discuss theology with you.

I generally agree.
I still find the odd one who will though and not just go into preaching mode.

You are 100% correct about the church goers as I see them not so much as believers but just people who follow tradition and not their theology.

Regards
DL