Olympic superiority vs Economic retaliation

[pinky]

I'm sure many are watching the Olympics at the moment. And I'm sure some of you are wondering if the Chinese atheletes are really that good. Now I'm not getting into the age discussion here, so let's leave that out of it. I've watched a bunch of it and really can't see the infractions they speak about on the tv. It all looks like 10's to me. But......

Consider this possibility.....China, is a large and growing world economic power. They have 1.3 billion possible consumers. Now not everyone in the country is going to be driving Lada's but they will all need "something". What better opportunity is there to get "favored" status for your country then by giving the Chinese athelete a higher score for the same performance? You don't think this is going through the minds of some country's officials? Do you really think the playing field is level in business?

This is not meant to infer the Chinese are cheating, actually the other countries are.

 

[groundpounder]

It's a scam.

I wonder how many Chinese gold medals were awarded in past years when the Olympiad was held elsewhere?
For that matter, though, I wonder what the trend is for host countries winning medals of any sort, but especially gold, versus their respective medal haul in other Olympic games?
When I think about it, it seems the host country wins an inordinate amount of medals...

be interesting to know that, but I'm not worried enough about it to be going to look it up...

 

[Peter Parka]

To be honest and this completely unbiased here I'd wonder more about Great Britain's unusual haul seeing we're hosting it next and need good publicity.:ninja

 

[groundpounder]

yeah, Brits don't strike me as, um, Olympic titans. No offence....

Personally, unless it's a feat of pure athletic/mental skill, (running, throwing, shooting, swimming) I think the whole thing is a sham.

It's fun to watch in HD, though, lemme tell ya. I was watching table tennis in HD on ye olde flat screen and mrs gp was like, "WTF are you watching ping pong for?" I was like, "Because it's in HD."

I'd watch underwater basket weaving if it was in hi-def...

 

[Peter Parka]

Still third in the medal table and I'll take that whatever, you know it isn't really true that we dont care about the result as long as it's fair, right?

 

[groundpounder]

perhaps.....

 

[pinky]

yeah, Brits don't strike me as, um, Olympic titans. No offence....

None taken. I'm not a Brit.

I watched the table tennis doubles. Now that was fast action. But I still don't understand why syncronized diving is in the competition.




edit: I should read other posts before I post. sigh

 

[Minor Axis]

I don't know if this has been mentioned all ready, but I'm suspicious of the 16 year old Chinese gymnasts who 6 months ago were 13 years old. If you want to allow 13 year olds to participate, lobby to change the rules, don't falsify their documentation to get them in. I saw them perform. They did not look like 16 years olds but I guess that is not 100% proof.

 

[gLing]

There is no conspiracy going on. Those athletes are winning the medals because they earned it. Now during gymnastics some mistakes were missed or over looked but that always happens in the Olympics. Judges don't always catch everything.
China doesn't have enough muscle to intimidate anybody into judging in their favor.
Since these games are in Beijing China went crazy preparing for them and was determined to come out on top with the gold medals. China is all about looking good on the world stag.

As for the age of some of those gymnasts. Some probably are under age. A medalist who said she was 16 in the 2000 games later admitted she was only 14 so I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Chinese slipped a few underage girls in there this time around.

 

[CMDxAbsolution]

^^^I disagree. Their was def one gymnastic event where the American girl landed her routine way better then her CHinese counterpart, and the judges gave the chinagirl the Gold. Also...The situation where the two girls tied, and instead of giving out two medals (Which is done all the time, and has also been done during this olympiad, although for silvers) they go to some obscure rule aout the tech score or whatever, giving the Chinese girl the edge again.

All im saying, is that if you take all the medals away that require judges decisions....Then China is only beating the US by 2 golds.

 

[gLing]

^^^I disagree. Their was def one gymnastic event where the American girl landed her routine way better then her CHinese counterpart, and the judges gave the chinagirl the Gold. Also...The situation where the two girls tied, and instead of giving out two medals (Which is done all the time, and has also been done during this olympiad, although for silvers) they go to some obscure rule aout the tech score or whatever, giving the Chinese girl the edge again.

All im saying, is that if you take all the medals away that require judges decisions....Then China is only beating the US by 2 golds.

That is a new gymnastics rule about the tie breaker. It has nothing to do with the judges.

 

[CMDxAbsolution]

As far as I heard, its an obscure rule, not a new one.

 

[gLing]

As far as I heard, its an obscure rule, not a new one.

You're right it isn't that new. It's an idea that was brought up by the IOC in 1997. When exactly they started it I can't tell. I don't think there have been any ties in Olympic gymnastics since then but it is the rule. Nobody seems to like it but the IOC being the morons that they are put it in anyways. In fact nobody likes the new scoring system they started this year for gymnastics. But then the IOC is pack of monkeys.

 

[Alien Allen]

every Olympics there are isses with judging. gymnastics , swimming and boxing have a long history of pathetic judging and figure skating in the winter.

saw elsewhere that they have found the original documents or the doctored documents proving the China gymnasts were under aged.

 

[Strauss]

Frankly, I only have one issue....who the hell decided that "synchronized diving" is a sport?

 

[Minor Axis]

As for the age of some of those gymnasts. Some probably are under age. A medalist who said she was 16 in the 2000 games later admitted she was only 14 so I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Chinese slipped a few underage girls in there this time around.

The underage medal winners (if there are any) should be stripped of their medals.

 

[Alien Allen]

Frankly, I only have one issue....who the hell decided that "synchronized diving" is a sport?

you fucking asshole :24:

my daughter gave up a chance at playing Lacrosse in high school in exchange for making the state finals in Sincro :willy_nilly:

Sincro is the most miserable spectator sport on earth. You think it is bad on TV then try going to a friggin meet. :24: