More Indoctrination of our Kiddos?

[Accountable]

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Is this indoctrination of a liberal policy? I'm not so sure. It seems to praise a guy for making it to the highest office of the land ... period. No 'we must help him change America' or 'America was terrible but now we'll fix it' or anything like that. Lots of 'Yes we can' & empty 'change' phrases with no context.

Most seem to be perdominately black schools cheering the first black president.

One praised another Irish president like JFK, saying O'Bama is as Irish as O'Reilley or O'Hara.

To me, the primary indoctrination going on here is pride in country and pride in ethnicity. Is that wrong?

 

[Guyzerr]

To me, the primary indoctrination going on here is pride in country and pride in ethnicity. Is that wrong?

Nothing wrong with teaching kids to take pride in their country. It's something that isn't done in Canada and I think that's one of the reasons for the lack of pride here.

With reference to the " pride in ethnicity " as an outsider I think that may play a great part as to why the US has such an ongoing racial problem(s) that they will never rid themselves of. On a personal note I take great issue against hearing .... White Canadian, Black Canadian, Chinese Canadian, Indo Canadians etc. Too me we're Canadians. When I travel in the US y'all are Americans regardless of color or background. Makes it easier not to dislike or hate me thinks.

 

[edgray]

I don't think there was anything particularly wrong with what was being done. Most presidents have talked to students, told them to buckle down etc, and the pledge of allegiance is learned at an early age. I don't think it's any different to singing a national anthem at a sporting event for the most part. The US should be proud that it elected a black president, and be proud that he wants to make things better.

I don't see how this could be classified as "liberal indoctrination" at all though. In fact, I've never been presented with an example of liberal indoctrination - it's a myth, just like the supposed liberal bias the media has.

 

[Dakota Jim]

Better than Bush reading "my pet goat" to our kids while the terrorist (who Bush had been warned about using a plane for such acts) killed almost 4000 Americans. Shoes on the other foot methinks....

 

[nova]

I don't see how this could be classified as "liberal indoctrination" at all though. In fact, I've never been presented with an example of liberal indoctrination - it's a myth, just like the supposed liberal bias the media has.

So THATS why we constantly hear about the Obama admin doing a laundry list of the same stupid, quasi-illegal shit the Bush admin did. No wait, that doesn't happen. Everything they do gets white washed....

Dick Cheney meets with oil company reps in secret to craft energy policy and its the end of the world requiring congressional investigations.

Barack Obama meets with insurance company and pharma reps in secret to craft health care policy and they're "just trying to do whats best for the nation."

The Double Standard About Bias in Journalism - Reason Magazine

I made The New York Times last week. It even ran my picture. My mother would be proud.
Unfortunately, the story was critical. It said, "Critics have leaped on Mr. Stossel's speaking engagements as the latest evidence of conservative bias on the part of Fox."

Which "critics" had "leaped"? The reporter mentioned Rachel Maddow. I wouldn't think her criticism newsworthy, but Times reporters may use MSNBC as their guide to life. He also quoted an "associate professor of journalism" who said my speeches were "'pretty shameful' by traditional journalistic standards." All this because I spoke at an event for Americans for Prosperity (AFP), a "conservative advocacy group."

It is odd that this is a news story. In August, AFP hired me to do the very same thing. I give the money to charity. The Times didn't call that "shameful."

But in August, I worked for ABC News. Now, I work for Fox. Hmmm.

Really? Seriously? Gimme a fucking break...

Better than Bush reading "my pet goat" to our kids while the terrorist (who Bush had been warned about using a plane for such acts) killed almost 4000 Americans. Shoes on the other foot methinks....

Seriously. One man, 1000 miles away, abruptly, jumping up and running out on a bunch of 2nd graders would SOOO totally stop the attacks.

Just like Barack Obama should have hustled out of the Indian Conference to get to Ft. Hood. :sarcasm

 

[retro]

Nova... seriously, how many times do I have to tell you to stop confronting the left with facts? They don't like it.

 

[Accountable]

Better than Bush reading "my pet goat" to our kids while the terrorist (who Bush had been warned about using a plane for such acts) killed almost 4000 Americans. Shoes on the other foot methinks....

Careful there, Jim. Your knee's jerking again. Try reading to be sure there's something to contradict before contradicting.

 

[Accountable]

With reference to the " pride in ethnicity " as an outsider I think that may play a great part as to why the US has such an ongoing racial problem(s) that they will never rid themselves of. On a personal note I take great issue against hearing .... White Canadian, Black Canadian, Chinese Canadian, Indo Canadians etc. Too me we're Canadians. When I travel in the US y'all are Americans regardless of color or background. Makes it easier not to dislike or hate me thinks.

We're all mutts in America. I personally think it a little strange to find someone without ethnic pride, if nothing else than in having a list of ethnicities in his ancestry. (like "I'm French-Canadian, Black Irish, Norwegian, Spanish, and a little Cherokee." or something like that) We know "American" encompasses all of it.

I don't like to hear the hyphenated American thing either, but it's alot of fun going to Rome, New York and hearing the Polacks and the goddamn I-talians going at each other with good-natured barbs, or going anywhere down south and hear two hispanics crack jokes because one's Mexican and the other is Puerto Rican or something. Who's more hispanic??

 

[Guyzerr]

We're all mutts in America. I personally think it a little strange to find someone without ethnic pride, if nothing else than in having a list of ethnicities in his ancestry. (like "I'm French-Canadian, Black Irish, Norwegian, Spanish, and a little Cherokee." or something like that) We know "American" encompasses all of it.

Then consider me strange if you already don't. My mother is of German decent and even though my father is of French decent I consider myself to be 100 % Canadian. According to the laws in Canada you are what your father is so I suppose I'm French then. But wait just one minute because it gets better. My ancestry has been researched by a pro and it goes back a couple hundred years or so. Besides being expensive it's quite a thick and interesting file. The information was gathered from various sources such as the Catholic Church which is considered to be one of the most reliable sources in Canada. It also encompass information from the Hudsons Bay Company which were also great record keepers. The HBC is also the oldest known registered company in N.A. if I'm not mistaken and they kept extremely detailed records. The information compiled is sufficient for the Canadian Gov't to accept as undeniable proof that I have enough Cree blood in me to qualify for full treaty status. That in itself could benifit me financially if I chose to exercise that right but I do not because.... are you ready for this..... it doesn't matter to me because I'm not French Canadian, I'm not German Canadian and I'm not Native. I'm Canadian.

You'll probably ask me why I chose to have my ancestry researched so I'll beat you to the punch. I knew from conversations with my father that I could be considered at least a Metis and being one there are many programs available that I could take advantage of if I could prove my liniage. Because I was considering an expensive education I could benifit by having it paid for 100% by the Gov't. My daughters school could benifit by receiving extra money from the Gov't just for here being enrolled there. That isn't all so now I suggest you hang on to your hat cuz it gets funny from here on. My father-in-law is probably one of the most anti-native individuals I have ever met. For many years he wasn't aware that I was of native decent and we got along quite nicely. Discussions about racisim over the years turned quite ugly and I wanted to get " my card " and flash it in front of his face while telling him his daughter married a Injin. :24: Three things to close this part....
- I paid for my education myself
- I made sure my father-in-law understands his daughter married an injin.
- I get along quite nicely with my father-in-law even though he's still a bigot.

I don't like to hear the hyphenated American thing either, but it's alot of fun going to Rome, New York and hearing the Polacks and the goddamn I-talians going at each other with good-natured barbs, or going anywhere down south and hear two hispanics crack jokes because one's Mexican and the other is Puerto Rican or something. Who's more hispanic??

Agreed it is funny stuff and I enjoy partcipating in it as well but be damned I'm not going to start any chest thumping, dirt kicking, rooster crowing barnyard antics because in the end I am Canadian.

 

[Accountable]

I don't think we disagree at all; maybe we just phrase it differently. I'm sure it's a Cannuck thing.

 

[Guyzerr]

I don't think we disagree at all; maybe we just phrase it differently. I'm sure it's a Cannuck thing.

We speak English and y'all speak Americanese. :24:

 

[GameCrazed]

Pride is a Deadle Sin.

 

[Accountable]

I haven't deadled since I was a teenager, I swear! :cool

 

[Guyzerr]

I haven't deadled since I was a teenager, I swear! :cool

So you were one of the lucky ones that stopped just before you needed stronger glasses.

 

[Minor Axis]

To me, the primary indoctrination going on here is pride in country and pride in ethnicity. Is that wrong?

Depends on how you feel about "pride". It can be a positive or a negative. Positive if it lifts you up. Negative if it is over done, based on feelings of why you are better than others, or based on falsehoods. As a rule I consider being "humble" as a better attribute than "pride".