mccain's concession speech

[siasl]

is it just me, or did anyone else find it troublesome that mccain not only had to tell his faithful twice that he was dedicating his efforts to working with his new president, but twice had to EXPLAIN to his audience WHY that was important.

disappointment at their man losing is natural and expected....that crowd's attitude was more than disappointment, tho.

the GOP needs someone to lead itself out of the darkness that has befallen it, imo.

 

[Fox Mulder]

is it just me, or did anyone else find it troublesome that mccain not only had to tell his faithful twice that he was dedicating his efforts to working with his new president, but twice had to EXPLAIN to his audience WHY that was important.

disappointment at their man losing is natural and expected....that crowd's attitude was more than disappointment, tho.

the GOP needs someone to lead itself out of the darkness that has befallen it, imo.

LOL!!! You are really blind my friend. Partisan politics began as soon as Republicans took a majority in Congress. Republicans won't forget how Democrats have worked along with the media to destroy and subvert whatever Republicans tried to do and the attacks on Bush. They can expect the same my friend--what goes around comes around. Perhaps after the same tactics are employed and used against them it can all be put behind us.

 

[siasl]

LOL!!! You are really blind my friend. Partisan politics began as soon as Republicans took a majority in Congress. Republicans won't forget how Democrats have worked along with the media to destroy and subvert whatever Republicans tried to do and the attacks on Bush. They can expect the same my friend--what goes around comes around. Perhaps after the same tactics are employed and used against them it can all be put behind us.

ahhhhh, fox.....always the partisan....you can't see the forest for its trees
mccain's concession speech was eloquent and moving....but it fell on some deaf ears in that crowd.....not everyone, to be sure - (i really hadn't intented for my post to be read as a broad generalization)....there were folks in that crowd who weren't listening to the man they had hoped would be president....they were listening to an american, calling for unity....and rejecting it

simplistically, you're right....and you probably will just write it off to partisan politics -the nature of the beast....but i trust my instincts, and they were troubled by some of the responses to that speech.

 

[Fox Mulder]

BTW iltos--can you point to any time during Bush's presidency that the Democrats reached across the aisle and tried to work with the Republicans?

That won't be forgotten. I doubt Republicans will deliberately sabatoge Obama the way Democrats did to Bush, but they certainly won't be bending over backwards to help them succeed, especially since Republicans disagree with Democrats political ideology.

 

[Fox Mulder]

ahhhhh, fox.....always the partisan....you can't see the forest for its trees
mccain's concession speech was eloquent and moving....but it fell on some deaf ears in that crowd.....not everyone, to be sure - (i really hadn't intented for my post to be read as a broad generalization)....there were folks in that crowd who weren't listening to the man they had hoped would be president....they were listening to an american, calling for unity....and rejecting it

simplistically, you're right....and you probably will just write it off to partisan politics -the nature of the beast....but i trust my instincts, and they were troubled by some of the responses to that speech.

Well the issue is that Repubicans don't agree with the ideology. If Democrats attempt to push all their platforms there will be no reaching across the aisle--if there is compromise they will, but Democrats don't compromise--they believe the end justifies the means.

 

[siasl]

Well the issue is that Repubicans don't agree with the ideology. If Democrats attempt to push all their platforms there will be no reaching across the aisle--if there is compromise they will, but Democrats don't compromise--they believe the end justifies the means.

maybe our difference here is that you are, indeed talking POLITICS.....what may or may not happen in washington....in that sense, i tend to agree with you....pelosi and her crowd had her big chance....whether it was due to the nature of the bush presidency, or simply, as you suggest, some liberal ideology, no one seemed willing to sit down and hammer out anything that didn't smack of partisanship......
but that is, to me, another topic altogether

what i'm talking about are the voters....and maybe i'm naive in believing that what the majority of us want is that this partisan bs get over itself.....in trusting that we little guys know what's needed, in spite of ideology

maybe

but what i heard tonight in that crowd was an undercurrent of resolve that ideology is more important than unity, and its necessity for compromise.....and i've never heard that from the audience of any concession speech

that's all i'm sayin'

 

[Fox Mulder]

maybe our difference here is that you are, indeed talking POLITICS.....what may or may not happen in washington....in that sense, i tend to agree with you....pelosi and her crowd had her big chance....whether it was due to the nature of the bush presidency, or simply, as you suggest, some liberal ideology, no one seemed willing to sit down and hammer out anything that didn't smack of partisanship......
but that is, to me, another topic altogether

what i'm talking about are the voters....and maybe i'm naive in believing that what the majority of us want is that this partisan bs get over itself.....in trusting that we little guys know what's needed, in spite of ideology

maybe

but what i heard tonight in that crowd was an undercurrent of resolve that ideology is more important than unity, and its necessity for compromise.....and i've never heard that from the audience of any concession speech

that's all i'm sayin'

Well, ideology is simply a label. For me I don't want them to accomplish very much because my belief is we need less government. I think we'd be much better off it they just filibustered each other and did nothing for four years. In fact, if we shut Congress down, I don't think we'd even notice.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I thought McCains concession speech was a class act.

My .02

 

[Alien Allen]

anybody who thinks that this will bring the end of divisiveness in Washington is dreaming. It will be as bad as ever. You have the most liberal congress and president in ages. Expect a lot of filibusters. and expect the republicans to whine to no end. because that is all they have now. from the Contract with American to now this. such a wasted opportunity. and now we get one more step closer to European style socialism.

 

[dt3]

BTW iltos--can you point to any time during Bush's presidency that the Democrats reached across the aisle and tried to work with the Republicans?

That won't be forgotten. I doubt Republicans will deliberately sabatoge Obama the way Democrats did to Bush, but they certainly won't be bending over backwards to help them succeed, especially since Republicans disagree with Democrats political ideology.

I can tell you that the Great Uniter, I mean President-Elect Obama, voted along Democrat lines 96% of the time he was in the Senate. Tell me that isn't a sign of things to come...

 

[Alien Allen]

I can tell you that the Great Uniter, I mean President-Elect Obama, voted along Democrat lines 96% of the time he was in the Senate. Tell me that isn't a sign of things to come...

yup

gonna be an interesting time.

 

[Staci]

yup

gonna be an interesting time.

interesting or scary?

btw i thought mccain's speech was very good

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

interesting or scary?

btw i thought mccain's speech was very good

I agree totally, he's a class act, he made a proper concession speech...Just my opinion of course

 

[Alien Allen]

interesting or scary?

btw i thought mccain's speech was very good

i did not see either speech

i heard they were both good

 

[Staci]

they were. however if the tables were turned i do not think that obama's speech would have been "a class act". mccain said nothing negative in his speech and was nothing but admirable in my opinion.

 

[NicAuf]

I'm dissapointed that we didn't see the same McCain during the election as we saw during his concession speech.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

I'm dissapointed that we didn't see the same McCain during the election as we saw during his concession speech.

:homo:


Yeah what he said

 

[siasl]

I'm dissapointed that we didn't see the same McCain during the election as we saw during his concession speech.

we did.....remember when he took the mic away from that woman in one of his town hall meetings?
he was defending his party, his politics, and the presidency

i heard some of that again last night.

it's where much of his eloquence came from, and why, as bad boy says, it was such a class act.
the fact that he had to defend those things -not once, but twice- against the undercurrent in the crowd, was telling to me, tho

as was the fact that he was not ad gracious as many candidates are in acknowledging the hard work and trust of his supporters.

he was, imo, speaking as much to the rift within his own party, as to the rift between left and right in america.

 

[Minor Axis]

I'm dissapointed that we didn't see the same McCain during the election as we saw during his concession speech.

I agree. It was the McCain I remember from the old days.

 

[siasl]

Well, ideology is simply a label.

you're waffling....you brought up that word, not me

For me I don't want them to accomplish very much because my belief is we need less government.

there's much to be said for this pov, fox :thumbup
i'm not sure if you conservatives can wrestle the reins of your party from the social and relgious idealogs who seem to have so strong a voice in it......maybe you outta start looking at the libertarian party. :ninja