Martin Luther was, and Protestants are supposed to be, Gnostic Christians.

[Greatest I am]

Martin Luther was, and Protestants are supposed to be, Gnostic Christians.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_qnsTr7I04

The old Orthodox Catholic Church preached the God without that we had access to only through the good old boy system of the clergy.

It seems that Martin Luther knew better and knew the God within as the true God.
He rejected the notion of the Word of God as a literal and historic book.

What happened to his theology and why did literalism and fundamentalism rear it’s ugly head and deceive so many Christians.

Even now, most of the protestant west is stupidly literal in their reading of scripture even as it’s leader, Martin Luther said not to read the Bible literally.

It also happens that the pope also says the same thing, so WTH are Catholics doing also following this anti-Christ way of reading scripture, and ending with a literal historic Christ?

Do none who call themselves Christian or Catholic believe their own leadership anymore?

If not, why are you calling yourself Christian or Catholic?

My guess is tradition and your social network and to me, this is a hypocritical way of going through life and a good way to never know or find God.

Satan is supposed to deceive the whole world from your pathetic literal view so if the majority of Catholics and Protestants are reading literally or ending their reading of the Bible with a literal and historic Christ, then statistically speaking you poor deluded soul, must be following Satan.

Right?

Regards
DL

P S. Here is the way Martin Luther broke free from the shackles of the twisted Catholicism of his day. He accepted adulthood and so should literalists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGx4IlppSgU

 

[Minor Axis]

Both are good videos. I really like the first one. Any relationship the individual has with the spiritual/divine plane is an individual one. Human religions are organized mostly as a means of control, power, and influence. This layer between individuals and the divine is mostly harmful if the intent is to indoctrinate the individual into a specific way of thinking and following. Going to church once a week and receiving the blessing of the church while you fork over some percentage of your income is almost laughable if it is supposed to somehow guarantee you entrance into heaven. But maybe they don't. I have not read the fine print.

 

[BornReady]

I do not see Martin Luther as a gnostic. Gnostic Christianity was pushed underground by the Catholic church in something like the 3rd century. Luther was a literalist as practically all Christians were in his day. To his credit, Luther opened Pandora's box so to speak which eventually led to liberal Christianity in both the Catholic and Protestant sects. To his discredit, Luther was a racist and intolerant of those who disagreed with him.

 

[Minor Axis]

To his discredit, Luther was a racist and intolerant of those who disagreed with him.

Not throwing this out as an excuse, but my impression is that racist was more or less the norm back then.

 

[Greatest I am]

Both are good videos. I really like the first one. Any relationship the individual has with the spiritual/divine plane is an individual one. Human religions are organized mostly as a means of control, power, and influence. This layer between individuals and the divine is mostly harmful if the intent is to indoctrinate the individual into a specific way of thinking and following. Going to church once a week and receiving the blessing of the church while you fork over some percentage of your income is almost laughable if it is supposed to somehow guarantee you entrance into heaven. But maybe they don't. I have not read the fine print.

Yes. Theists do not recognize that priests have created a need or a wish that wants fulfillment and some choose to believe in a myth to fill it whereas others want facts and refuse fantasy and magical thinking.

They do not recognize that this need was created by priest who wanted their $$ as you say while no believers and science wants belief thanks to the facts they uncovers.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

I do not see Martin Luther as a gnostic. Gnostic Christianity was pushed underground by the Catholic church in something like the 3rd century. Luther was a literalist as practically all Christians were in his day. To his credit, Luther opened Pandora's box so to speak which eventually led to liberal Christianity in both the Catholic and Protestant sects. To his discredit, Luther was a racist and intolerant of those who disagreed with him.

What you call liberal Christianity is likely what I call Gnosticism. M L may have been racist or whatever before his Gnosticism kicked in but that attitude dies when the God within is found. That God is a universalist type of God.

Regards
DL

 

[BornReady]

Not throwing this out as an excuse, but my impression is that racist was more or less the norm back then.

True. Martin Luther did not invent anti-Semitism but he promoted it to a level never before seen in Europe.

 

[Greatest I am]

True. Martin Luther did not invent anti-Semitism but he promoted it to a level never before seen in Europe.

Perhaps he just wanted to give Christians a new enemy as he saw them fighting against each other.

Nothing like a mutual enemy to help unify churches and people that were killing each other over diverging points of stupid dogma.

Regards
DL

 

[BornReady]

I heard that was one of the motivations of the Crusades. I think Luther's hatred was more personal. When he was young he was nice to Jews and tried to convert them. But when they wouldn't be converted he turned on them with a vengeance.

 

[Greatest I am]

I heard that was one of the motivations of the Crusades. I think Luther's hatred was more personal. When he was young he was nice to Jews and tried to convert them. But when they wouldn't be converted he turned on them with a vengeance.

Typical loving Christian. Turn or burn.

Regards
DL

 

[mazHur]

Luther tried to free Christianity from the clutches of the clergy, rituals , oppression and 'Biblical intrigue' of the church.

 

[Greatest I am]

Luther tried to free Christianity from the clutches of the clergy, rituals , oppression and 'Biblical intrigue' of the church.

Yes and he may have succeeded for a time.
Unfortunately, it went from catholic clergy to protestant clergy.
Same old same old because the protestants forgot their better Gnostic routes and became retarded by reading their scriptures literally.

Regards
DL