Let me, a Muslim feminist, confuse you.

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Let me, a Muslim feminist, confuse you.
Mona Eltahawy

"I'm a Muslim. I'm a feminist. And I'm here to confuse you,” I told attendees at the TED Women conference, where I was a speaker, in Washington this week.
The conversation on Muslim women usually revolves around our head scarves and our hymens — what's on our heads (or not), what's between our legs, and the price we pay for it.
For kick-ass feminist icons, I have a long history to choose from.
In the 7th century, there's Khadijah, Prophet Muhammad's first wife. She was a rich divorcee who owned her own business, who was his boss, who was 15 years older than him and who proposed to him.
My fondness for younger men clearly has a precedent.
But the first wave of feminism for many Muslim women started at a Cairo train station in 1923 where Hoda Shaarawi removed her face veil, which, long before anyone was burning their bras, she described as a thing of the past. She must be turning in her grave as some today try to justify covering women's faces.
My paternal grandmother was a teacher, a furious smoker, a fast walker and an adamant supporter of a soccer club hated by most of her children.
My maternal grandmother — whose sexually racy jokes would outrage her children — was pregnant 14 times. Eleven of those children survived.
My mother — the eldest of those children and the first woman in her family to get a PhD — has three children.
I am the eldest of the three and I've chosen not to have any children. My mother had her youngest when she was 42. My sister is now herself working on a PhD and is longing for a baby.
I was born in Egypt, where I belonged to the Sunni Muslim majority. When I was 7, we moved to London, where I learned to become a minority and learned too how little was expected of Muslim women, Teachers assumed my dad's work brought us to London and were shocked to hear Muslim wives didn't take the husband's name.
We moved to Saudi Arabia when I was 15 and I fell into a deep depression as I struggled to find a place among very different Islams.
At home, I was taught an Islam by parents who were equals and who were raising my brother and me to be equals. Outside our new home was an Islam that treated women like the walking embodiment of sin. I was done with Muslim men.

I chose to wear a head scarf and became a feminist (the two weren't mutually exclusive) after I discovered essays by Muslim women scholars who taught me women could reinterpret religion. They terrified the hell out of me.
When I returned to Egypt at 21, I learned Muslim men were not the enemy after all, as progressive, liberal Muslim women and men helped me define my own place in Islam.
My headscarves-and-hymens moment came when I took off my head scarf — it no longer represented the Muslim woman I was becoming — and I became increasingly obsessed with female genital mutilation after I learned how many members of my extended family had been subjected to it.
Both Muslims and Christians practise genital cutting in Egypt. It's not about religion. It's about hymens — and that's about controlling women's sexuality.
I moved to Israel, where I was the first Egyptian to live and work there for a western news agency. I became a liberal Muslim because my ultra-Orthodox Jewish neighbours reminded me of ultra-orthodox Muslim Saudis. Orthodoxy serves men much more than it does women.
I moved to the U.S. 10 years ago after marrying an American, but when we divorced two years later I got into my car and spent 18 days driving alone to New York City. It was my American pilgrimage. My reward was a community of like-minded Muslims together with whom I prayed behind Amina Wadud, an American Muslim scholar, in the first public female-led mixed-gender Friday prayer. Without a head scarf and on my period, I prayed next to a man — sacrilege to many but a delight to me.
I belong to Musawah — the global movement for equality and justice in the Muslim family. A young British Muslim woman told me at the launch in Malaysia last year that if she had to choose between Islam and feminism, Islam would win. A young Egyptian Muslim woman told me if she had to choose between Islam and feminism, feminism would win.
For my sister-in-law, it is about head scarves and hymens. She wears a head scarf and she's a gynecologist. For the past five years she was the only woman ob/gyn doctor in a tiny Ohio town.
She was the true “jihadi” — every time her patients heard Fox News talk about Moozlums and “them Ayrabs” she was there as the antidote.
This summer I confused people outside the Islamic Community Centre near Ground Zero known as Park51. When a bigoted couple came to insult and provoke us, I gave them the middle finger. I mustered patience with others. But when Bill Keller, a right-wing televangelist came to shed crocodile tears over Muslim women it was clear he was boosting his ego, not my rights.
I'm no fool. I know that terrible violations of women's rights are committed in the name of my faith. But Islam belongs to me too.
I'm in a boxing ring. On one side is Bill Keller's right wing: bigoted and xenophobic. On the other side is the Muslim right wing, which uses Islam against me to fuel its misogyny.

I'm a bumble bee who carries ideas — pollen — from one place to another in the hope that they will blossom into a wild and challenging orchard. The pollen might be sweet, but I “sting like a bee” because like the great Muhammad Ali, I will not hesitate to knock you out.
Confusion is both my right and left hook.

Mona Eltahawy is an award-winning columnist and public speaker on Arab and Muslim issues.
 
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Thanks for posting. Good reading. Middle Eastern culture has a long way to go when it comes to religious and sexual tolerance and equality and moving forward out of the 10th century. Maybe Muslims in more progressive parts of the world can help teach them?
 

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Thanks for posting. Good reading. Middle Eastern culture has a long way to go when it comes to religious and sexual tolerance and equality and moving forward out of the 10th century. Maybe Muslims in more progressive parts of the world can help teach them?


I could anticipate your response....

Nothing to hide but the fact is that Islam seems to have lost its real spirit due to 'internal rifts' among Muslims
themselves. However, unlike some Christians here, there are few Muslims who would talk ill of their Prophet Muhammad or Allah and that's a bit of consolation for the Muslim heart!

FYI the cutting of female is only restricted to Mona's land, it is not practiced anywhere else in the world, to the best of my knowledge and belief. But as Mona says the 'the cutting of femme genitals' (like male circumcision) has more to do with keeping sexual urges down during 'crushes' and is not an Islamic recommendation.

It is also heartening to note that ALL Muslims believe in the holy Quran regardless of where they happen to be
or to whichever sect they belong. I think this 'unity' is lacking in Christianity?
 

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I could anticipate your response....

Is this good or bad? :)

Nothing to hide but the fact is that Islam seems to have lost its real spirit due to 'internal rifts' among Muslims themselves. However, unlike some Christians here, there are few Muslims who would talk ill of their Prophet Muhammad or Allah and that's a bit of consolation for the Muslim heart!
On the other hand, any just divine entity and the followers of any religion should have the tolerance to allow for questions or even blasphemous feelings directed at God. The assumption should be that eventually any blasphemers will eventually see the light and find their way. There is absolutely no need and I can't believe God would look kindly upon humans declaring a death sentence against a blasphemer, because I don't believe God would ask human beings to kill one another in his name regardless of the reason.

FYI the cutting of female is only restricted to Mona's land, it is not practiced anywhere else in the world, to the best of my knowledge and belief. But as Mona says the 'the cutting of femme genitals' (like male circumcision) has more to do with keeping sexual urges down during 'crushes' and is not an Islamic recommendation.
Male circumcision is not for the purpose of suppressing sexual desires. This honor has only been attributed to second class females. I'm not expert but I could believe this is more of a cultural issue than a religious issue. However I know Christianity has always had hangups about sexual conduct so I can only wonder about Islam.

It is also heartening to note that ALL Muslims believe in the holy Quran regardless of where they happen to be
or to whichever sect they belong. I think this 'unity' is lacking in Christianity?
I'd say that is an assumption on your part regarding the unity of belief in the infallible words written in the Quran. This kind of a statement is usually made in an attempt to reinforce the "truth" of one's religious beliefs. Declaring yourself a Muslim does not mean you have to leave independent/divergent thoughts at the door. In fact it is a disservice to the intelligence God may have given you. ;)

BTW, I applaud Muslim Feminists! Islam can use more of them.
 
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Is this good or bad? :)

Well, I am glad the author of the article is a Muslim lady and isn't hiding anything for you to trust her observations and experience, good or bad!





On the other hand, any just divine entity and the followers of any religion should have the tolerance to allow for questions or even blasphemous feelings directed at God. The assumption should be that eventually any blasphemers will eventually see the light and find their way. There is absolutely no need and I can't believe God would look kindly upon humans declaring a death sentence against a blasphemer, because I don't believe God would ask human beings to kill one another in his name regardless of the reason.

Do you believe in democracy?? If so death penalty is LAW unanimously agreed upon by the majority of Pakistani's against blasphemers and if the culprits committed blasphemy knowingly they should feel themselves ready to suffer the brunt of law accordingly!

Unlike so many Christians I note here who talk ill of Jesus, Bible or God, the Muslims would normally never do it because he has pledged allegiance to his faith once for all! A Muslim may go astray but in the long run he'll end up a Muslim again!! This nature of Muslims perhaps falls in line with Jews whom I have noted to be loyal to their belief.....

Muslims do not need to ''question' their faith-as that would amount to 'faithlessness'' and 'betrayal' to their faith and themselves. "questioning ' faith is regarded by Muslims as questioning a band of men as to who is their father??? Islam does not believe in illicit sex/premarital sex or unnecessary 'questioning' of their faith. However, different sects among Muslims differ in their interpretation of Quranic tenets and that in itself may be termed as ''Questioning' and consequently the reason for the decline and fall of Muslims. Even then there are many good things in Islam that billions continue to believe in it and more and more are getting attracted to it in the West and most of them are women! this again goes to prove how women feel about their Western society and the attitude of men towards them there

Killing in the name of God is called JIHAD, the religious war which once Saladin laid single-handed against the entire Christian nations and won Jerusalem!! The current havoc caused by a few Muslims (mainly due to political reasons and vested interests) is not Jihad....majority of Muslims do not support them.





Male circumcision is not for the purpose of suppressing sexual desires. This honor has only been attributed to second class females. I'm not expert but I could believe this is more of a cultural issue than a religious issue. However I know Christianity has always had hangups about sexual conduct so I can only wonder about Islam.

Male circumcision is said to reduce the omni- ''sensitivity' of the organ.....and suppresses unwarranted sexual desire.

there are no second class females among Muslims.....maybe you have them in view of them converting
fast to Muslim faith.

The authoress already declared it was a cultural issue in Egypt....I never even heard of it in Indo_Pakistan.


Islam condemns promiscuity and mixing up of genders....

I'd say that is an assumption on your part regarding the unity of belief in the infallible words written in the Quran. This kind of a statement is usually made in an attempt to reinforce the "truth" of one's religious beliefs. Declaring yourself a Muslim does not mean you have to leave independent/divergent thoughts at the door. In fact it is a disservice to the intelligence God may have given you. ;)

you didn't get me...I meant that the Quran lives on for more than 1400 years without change of a single comma, fullstop or letter. It is the same all over the world. The fact that it hasn't changed and no one could do that sounds to me like a miracle in itself!! What you are stating is interpretation...which does suffer from controversy but the basics are almost the same all over the world! A Muslim in Pakistan is the same as an American, Chinese, Russian or Alaskan Muslim when it comes to the holy Quran!!

Questions with good intentions is okay but non-Muslims usually question to find faults and have a preconceived notions and nuances against Islam! Such negativitism of non muslims is mainly due to cultural conditioning and surprise/dread for change for divinely-ordained better! As many non-Muslims do not seem to respect their own faiths how could they have a fair and bona fide outlook towards any other religion??
Questioning is permissible if questions asked are without prejudice and not infused with misconceived bias and
malafide.




BTW, I applaud Muslim Feminists! Islam can use more of them.

Why don't you ask the authoress of the article for a date???;)
 

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did you anticipate this
diddly doo da doo

Im going to read it now and I'm sure it is very good reading.
 

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Male circumcision is said to reduce the omni- ''sensitivity' of the organ.....and suppresses unwarranted sexual desire.

I believe it is perceived as a procedure for health reasons. As a circumcised male, I have plenty of good feelings and don't seem to be hindered in any way. Here read up: http://children.webmd.com/tc/circumcision-why-it-is-done. :)

Why don't you ask the authoress of the article for a date???;)
That comment is beneath you. :p As for the rest, we won't see eye to eye there either so I won't contest your faithful rebuttal.
 
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I believe it is perceived as a procedure for health reasons. As a circumcised male, I have plenty of good feelings and don't seem to be hindered in any way. Here read up: http://children.webmd.com/tc/circumcision-why-it-is-done. :)

Prevention of unwanted sexual arousal, like baboons or pigeons, does seem to be a health problem as well.:) I
There is no doubt about circumcision having its health benefits..but this is not the topic here!!


That comment is beneath you. :p As for the rest, we won't see eye to eye there either so I won't contest your faithful rebuttal.

How? Meeting and talking to a Muslim girl about her ...and your religious thoughts...cannot be beneath me, is it??
Okay, call it having a 'session' with her if having a 'date' sound too hard and unachievable ....;)
 
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