Junior Seau dead

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rback33

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I saw that several hours ago on my phone. Sadly, I am not shocked by this one. Not sure why, but I had a feeling his story would end that way. He was one helluva player though. Sad for sure.
 

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I saw that several hours ago on my phone. Sadly, I am not shocked by this one. Not sure why, but I had a feeling his story would end that way. He was one helluva player though. Sad for sure.

What is your gut feeling, depression? maybe because of steroid abuse

I admit i know little of his life away from the game, did he have a rep for a wild lifestyle
 

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I think he had a history of depression and I think there may have been some steroid use at one point too. That and his wishy washy retirement stuff made me wonder.... I don't recall directly reading any of that stuff, but something just struck me as odd with him and the way he went out. Such a sad and horrible ending to a pretty damn great life. I can't imagine the grief his family feels right now.
 

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My gut thinks he was suffering from manic-depression. I dated a woman who had it and she took her medication, but every once and a while would take herself off of them because she felt okay, but after my discussions with her about it, she was much better off when she did take her medication. my 0.02
 

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dang...
but you all know these things come in threes, so i wonder who all has their numbes called this go 'round
 

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Very sad, what a tragedy.
Whenever you see strings of suicides, be it with athletes or bullied teens as we have now, I always think about suicide contagion. I mean suicide is nearly literally contagious in the mentally ill. When suicidal ideation is present just the mere knowledge others are successfully completing suicide becomes a catalyst.

Sometimes I wonder how much of that plays into these trends.
In any case, it's sad :( too young
 

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Very sad, what a tragedy.
Whenever you see strings of suicides, be it with athletes or bullied teens as we have now, I always think about suicide contagion. I mean suicide is nearly literally contagious in the mentally ill. When suicidal ideation is present just the mere knowledge others are successfully completing suicide becomes a catalyst.

Sometimes I wonder how much of that plays into these trends.
In any case, it's sad :( too young
do you mean that suicide is seen to be an option because others in his peer group have taken that dark road, i.e the stigma once associated is gone and almost like a flood gate is opened and the seau's that remain easily get swept away
 

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do you mean that suicide is seen to be an option because others in his peer group have taken that dark road, i.e the stigma once associated is gone and almost like a flood gate is opened and the seau's that remain easily get swept away

Certainly I don't know anything about his case or his life and my comment was more directed towards the trend of teen and athlete suicides on the whole, not necessarily his case. Putting that out there in hopes of not being publicly flogged.

Those who study suicide seem to conclude that individuals with suicidal ideations are more at risk of killing themselves when they are aware that lots of other people have done the same.

The way I see it is, the feeling of suicide is sometimes "there's no hope and I will never get better; i'm best off dead." Now when you hear someone like you has died this way, you may think "see!! it's true, no one ever gets better, this is my only choice." :\
 

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Certainly I don't know anything about his case or his life and my comment was more directed towards the trend of teen and athlete suicides on the whole, not necessarily his case. Putting that out there in hopes of not being publicly flogged.

Those who study suicide seem to conclude that individuals with suicidal ideations are more at risk of killing themselves when they are aware that lots of other people have done the same.

The way I see it is, the feeling of suicide is sometimes "there's no hope and I will never get better; i'm best off dead." Now when you hear someone like you has died this way, you may think "see!! it's true, no one ever gets better, this is my only choice." :\
for sure we see evidence of this in some communities, i believe there was a time, not long ago when a high number of teen suicides happened in one particular town in South Wales, UK - all of these poor kids knew each other and social networked with each other, almost as if they gave legitimacy to the act, where as in previous generations, the stigma associated with suicide still was real enough so that if one did it, they were almost immediately shunned (or at least their memory was), certianly it seems to me that the first act did not perpuate repitition
 

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Ya that's a good point, and a fine line...you don't want to shun someone for feeling this way, but if it's socially acceptable does it happen more often?
 
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