Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?

[Greatest I am]

Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?

It is said that God can do whatever he likes. He is afterall, God. He created everything and can destroy it at a whim if he chooses to do so. I do not believe this but will grant it as a truth for this O P.

Given that God can kill or cure, and given that we are to emulate, follow and try to be like him; it would seem that we too are to believe that sometimes it is better to kill than cure. I cannot think of any good situation to do this but that is just me. Perhaps you can.

Scriptures show God killing many or having men kill many. Scriptures show God curing on a few occasions but killing seems to be his preferred method.

Life, be it from God or nature, should be venerated. God does not seem to venerate human life even as he claims man to be his most precious and loved creation and even placing us above the angels. This indicates that he should venerate our lives yet it does not seem to.

In our human world, if a doctor who could cure his patient decided to kill him, he would be jailed and considered an evil person. In the believer world, a God who could cure and decides to kill is considered good and praised for his killing. A double standard. I hope that we will all agree that for a human to kill, when a cure option is available, is evil and immoral. If you do not; please do not reply.

Is it moral for God to kill when a cure options is available?

Does your God need to have good morals or does it matter?

Regards
DL

 

[Stone]

I do not believe this but will grant it as a truth for this O P.

Interesting non sequitur.
Not getting enough feed back from those crazy 'what if' claims?

 

[Greatest I am]

Thanks for your usual.

Regards
DL

 

[Stone]

Thanks for your usual.

Regards
DL

You're welcome......a thread shouldn't go with out someone responding

 

[Greatest I am]

You're welcome......a thread shouldn't go with out someone responding

Thanks.

Believers fear to tread where moral questions would screw up their view of their God.

They cannot take the truth.

Regards
DL

 

[fuel1316]

Is it moral for God to kill when a cure options is available?

your whole post is based on assumption that there is a god and he is indeed killing. guess my nonbelievery opinion doesnt count here :giggle

 

[Stone]

Thanks.

Believers fear to tread where moral questions would screw up their view of their God.

They cannot take the truth.

Regards
DL

That's called a fallacy.
You are claiming an absolute based upon the literal wording of the Bible......that logically would apply to many fundamentalists.
I'm not a fundamentalist......tough break for you ....

 

[Stone]

Is it moral for God to kill when a cure options is available?

your whole post is based on assumption that there is a god and he is indeed killing. guess my nonbelievery opinion doesnt count here :giggle

Fear not.....this thread isn't based upon much logic.
Mostly 'dark humor'

 

[Greatest I am]

Is it moral for God to kill when a cure options is available?

your whole post is based on assumption that there is a god and he is indeed killing. guess my nonbelievery opinion doesnt count here :giggle

Absolutely it does. Believers need to know that there are people who can think and not just follow dogma.


For evil to grow, all good women need do is nothing.

Do not be like they want Christian women to be.

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Regards
DL

 

[Stone]

Absolutely it does. Believers need to know that there are people who can think and not just follow dogma.


For evil to grow, all good women need do is nothing.

Do not be like they want Christian women to be.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55694664@N03/5355658072/sizes/m/in/photostream/


Regards
DL

Believers need to know that there are people who can think......

How odd you would post a statement like that in a thread like this.

 

[The Man]

Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?

It is said that God can do whatever he likes. He is afterall, God. He created everything and can destroy it at a whim if he chooses to do so. I do not believe this but will grant it as a truth for this O P.

Given that God can kill or cure, and given that we are to emulate, follow and try to be like him; it would seem that we too are to believe that sometimes it is better to kill than cure. I cannot think of any good situation to do this but that is just me. Perhaps you can.

Scriptures show God killing many or having men kill many. Scriptures show God curing on a few occasions but killing seems to be his preferred method.

Life, be it from God or nature, should be venerated. God does not seem to venerate human life even as he claims man to be his most precious and loved creation and even placing us above the angels. This indicates that he should venerate our lives yet it does not seem to.

In our human world, if a doctor who could cure his patient decided to kill him, he would be jailed and considered an evil person. In the believer world, a God who could cure and decides to kill is considered good and praised for his killing. A double standard. I hope that we will all agree that for a human to kill, when a cure option is available, is evil and immoral. If you do not; please do not reply.

Is it moral for God to kill when a cure options is available?

Does your God need to have good morals or does it matter?

Regards
DL

Is it moral to kill when a cure options is available?

Who is killing ,whats the ailment,whats the cure.

It is said that God can do whatever he likes. He is afterall, God. He created everything and can destroy it at a whim if he chooses to do so. I do not believe this but will grant it as a truth for this O P.

Ok ..then how would he be doing above?

Given that God can kill or cure, and given that we are to emulate, follow and try to be like him; it would seem that we too are to believe that sometimes it is better to kill than cure. I cannot think of any good situation to do this but that is just me. Perhaps you can.

You have already stated otherwise ...what are you trying to say?

Scriptures show God killing many or having men kill many. Scriptures show God curing on a few occasions but killing seems to be his preferred method.

Old testament ?

Life, be it from God or nature, should be venerated. God does not seem to venerate human life even as he claims man to be his most precious and loved creation and even placing us above the angels. This indicates that he should venerate our lives yet it does not seem to.

If true...why do you think he operates in such a fashion?

In our human world, if a doctor who could cure his patient decided to kill him, he would be jailed and considered an evil person. In the believer world, a God who could cure and decides to kill is considered good and praised for his killing. A double standard. I hope that we will all agree that for a human to kill, when a cure option is available, is evil and immoral. If you do not; please do not reply.

people die all the time due to lack of doctors care..are they killers?

Is it moral for God to kill when a cure options is available?

Does your God need to have good morals or does it matter?

Who is he killing? Why? and what cure options are available?

 

[Greatest I am]

Who is killing ,whats the ailment,whats the cure.

God is doing the killing. The ailment or cure I let for him to judge and decide. He can handle anything. After all, for this O P he can do anything.

Ok ..then how would he be doing above?

Damned if I know. One of his many miracles.

You have already stated otherwise ...what are you trying to say?

This statement is self-explanatory.

Old testament ?

Yes. The N T just has many instances in law where we are to stone people for rather minor sins like fornication or disrepecting parents.

If true...why do you think he operates in such a fashion?

Because he is an immoral prick.

people die all the time due to lack of doctors care..are they killers?

They are not being actively killed by a doctor so I would say no. God is supposedly sitting there watching and some would say that if he does not act to save, since he can cure, he is just letting them die. That is not really the same as taking action to kill which is more on topic.

Who is he killing? Why? and what cure options are available?

God is doing the killing. The ailment or cure I let for him to judge and decide. He can handle anything. After all, for this O P he can do anything.

Regards
DL

 

[Francis]

God is doing the killing. The ailment or cure I let for him to judge and decide. He can handle anything. After all, for this O P he can do anything.

Regards
DL

I think God is just too busy trying to answer all the many posts you put all over the internet that are identical, hence why he has no time to save anyone.. :cool

Regards,
FR

 

[Stone]

God is doing the killing. The ailment or cure I let for him to judge and decide. He can handle anything. After all, for this O P he can do anything.

Regards
DL

God is doing the killing.

The Man asked who was being killed by God.
I'd like a short list, and I don't mean historical names from the Bible.
You are claiming that it's an ongoing process so post the last 20 or so people God
killed.

 

[The Man]

The Man asked who was being killed by God.
I'd like a short list, and I don't mean historical names from the Bible.
You are claiming that it's an ongoing process so post the last 20 or so people God
killed.

Still waiting on the list I see

 

[Stone]

Still waiting on the list I see

Good one

 

[Honey Bunny]

Yes, God is shown many times in the old testament killing. the ones that stick out are the great flood, Sodom and Gomorrah and the tower of babel. Is that what you mean by God killing rather than curing? Because wickedness isn't a disease that can be simply cured.. Granted God could touch the hearts of every evil person in all 3 instances but that would negate the free will he gave humanity.

if that's not what you mean, do you mean that god gives people diseases and chooses not to cure them and lets them die?

how are we to act? Easy. the first commandment of God "thou shall not kill" so No it's never OK to kill someone.

 

[Greatest I am]

Thanks for this.

Yes, God is shown many times in the old testament killing. the ones that stick out are the great flood, Sodom and Gomorrah and the tower of babel. Is that what you mean by God killing rather than curing?

Yes. I am speaking of God taking an active hand in killing or in orders to do so.
Your examples are good but I do not recall him killing at Babel.

B

ecause wickedness isn't a disease that can be simply cured.. Granted God could touch the hearts of every evil person in all 3 instances but that would negate the free will he gave humanity.

:umno

Killing someone negates their free will choice that would choose life over death.

Further, God's precedent on changing minds is shown when he hardened Pharaoh's heart so it is something that he can do at any time.

if that's not what you mean, do you mean that god gives people diseases and chooses not to cure them and lets them die?

Believers say that he does but I was not speaking directly to that. We can include it or not though. It does have relevance.

how are we to act? Easy. the first commandment of God "thou shall not kill" so No it's never OK to kill someone.

I agree with your moral position on this second commandment.

It would be moral of God if he did as well.
Do as I say and not as I do is not a good example for us. He should know this but-----alas.

Regards
DL