Is it discrimination to deny someone entry to an establishment based on dress?

[Dana]

I understand some people are poor and cant afford to dress certain ways but there are places like Goodwill that sell perfectly good clean untattered clothing really cheap. I'm referring to folks who go out in public with in pajamas or jeans with one leg torn down to the ankle. Businesses already tell you no shirt no shoes no business so whats the difference? if you can't take the time to dress properly in BROAD DAYLIGHT then stay home IMO. i think I brought this up once but for example...

I went into a club and this really butch looking chick who id first mistaken for a man was dancing in the corner with a chick and their pants were torn so much you could see the boxers she was wearing....


If you can take the time and can afford to go out and shop you can dress correctly. And I know you folks who run out in the middle of the night to get things in your pjs will butt in. But I think thats a tad different.

 

[dkwrtw]

People can dress however they want, I wouldn't refuse anyone service just because I didn't like the way they were dressed.

 

[Springsteen]

No, if you want the short answer.

I'll tell you why, there are some establishments which cater to a specific audience and which want approval from the clientele in regard to getting exposure, and therefore more money. So that's fine. Other establishments don't allow people to wear football shirts in there because it could lead to trouble, and has in the past, so again, no.

 

[darkangel]

I went into a club and this really butch looking chick who id first mistaken for a man was dancing in the corner with a chick and their pants were torn so much you could see the boxers she was wearing....

That could just be the Fad of wearing torn up jeans. You see that more and more these days with the younger generations. A lot of bars don't mind how people dress. It's one thing to have boxers showing and another thing to have someones ass showing.

As for your question No it's not discrimination. Just like certain restaurants require that you wear a jacket over your shirt. It's their establishment and they can choose to have a dress code.

 

[cam elle toe]

That could just be the Fad of wearing torn up jeans. You see that more and more these days with the younger generations. A lot of bars don't mind how people dress. It's one thing to have boxers showing and another thing to have someones ass showing.

As for your question No it's not discrimination. Just like certain restaurants require that you wear a jacket over your shirt. It's their establishment and they can choose to have a dress code.

:nod:

and most will have a sign out the front saying what the dress code is...

Our RSL clubs over here have strict dress codes....no thongs, singlets or work clothes after a certain hour....no hats.

Its a matter of respect

 

[FreightTrain]

Have you been to your local WalMart, lately?? There's absolutely no dress code there! In fact, I'm pretty sure a lot of people find their most inappropriate clothes and put them on before they drive over.

 

[Dana]

That could just be the Fad of wearing torn up jeans. You see that more and more these days with the younger generations. A lot of bars don't mind how people dress. It's one thing to have boxers showing and another thing to have someones ass showing.

As for your question No it's not discrimination. Just like certain restaurants require that you wear a jacket over your shirt. It's their establishment and they can choose to have a dress code.

i wear distressed jeans with prefabricated tears in them but theres a big difference between that and showing your entire leg lol

 

[dkwrtw]

i wear distressed jeans with prefabricated tears in them but theres a big difference between that and showing your entire leg lol

I don't wear pre ripped jeans, every rip and tear in mine happened naturally, it gives them character. I walk around in pants with huge rips going all the way up the leg exposing my whole let all the time, lol I've been written up at work over them before.

 

[darkangel]

i wear distressed jeans with prefabricated tears in them but theres a big difference between that and showing your entire leg lol

So what's your point? We all have the right to dress whatever way we want as long as the bare essentials aren't showing and as long as it conforms with what the establishment deems appropriate.

 

[HottyToddyChick]

I actually had to tape my jeans up at a bar once. My cousin took me and we didn't know there was a dress code. And I'd only just been able to fit into them again. Oh, but the memories of the two of us in that itty bitty bathroom stall with my jeans around my ankles and the roll of duct tape they'd given us. What a blast!

But to answer the question- I say a business is well within it's rights to place limitations on it's customers so long as it is something the customer has reasonable control over.

 

[BornReady]

Denying access based on dress is discrimination but that doesn't automatically make it wrong. Discrimination is a fact of life. Handicapped parking spaces discriminate against healthy people. Universities discriminate against people with learning disabilities. Driver license agencies discriminate against children. But few people if any would argue that these forms of discrimination are wrong. The real question is when is it wrong to discriminate. Imo, discriminating based on dress is okay.

 

[Dana]

Denying access based on dress is discrimination but that doesn't automatically make it wrong. Discrimination is a fact of life. Handicapped parking spaces discriminate against healthy people. Universities discriminate against people with learning disabilities. Driver license agencies discriminate against children. But few people if any would argue that these forms of discrimination are wrong. The real question is when is it wrong to discriminate. Imo, discriminating based on dress is okay.

handicapped parking that's a rant in the making....

 

[BornReady]

handicapped parking that's a rant in the making....

Yeah, I don't think businesses should be forced to provide handicapped parking. But it's nice when they do, certainly not wrong.

 

[pjbleek]

Dana, bring this thread to my school...some outfits they wear...just can't fathom at times and to those who roll outta bed still wearing the PJ's and the camel toe that goes with it

:yuk:yuk:yuk:yuk:yuk

 

[mazHur]

No, it is not discrimination. There is time and place for wearing different types of clothing....and that doesn't amount to discrimination and why should it be??

''All rights reserved'' also means that the management of a place has the right to demand from visitors a certain dress for access....
however, I am not sure about the burqa

 

[FreightTrain]

Denying access based on dress is discrimination but that doesn't automatically make it wrong. Discrimination is a fact of life. Handicapped parking spaces discriminate against healthy people. Universities discriminate against people with learning disabilities. Driver license agencies discriminate against children. But few people if any would argue that these forms of discrimination are wrong. The real question is when is it wrong to discriminate. Imo, discriminating based on dress is okay.

:thumbupI like that response--especially about universities discriminating against dumb people, er, I mean those with learning disabilities.

 

[Peter Parka]

I couldn't really care less how people dress and pubs and clubs who have a dress code, I avoid if possible.

 

[porterjack]

I couldn't really care less how people dress and pubs and clubs who have a dress code, I avoid if possible.

agreed i respect their right to impose dress code, i just dont use them

 

[mazHur]

agreed i respect their right to impose dress code, i just dont use them

I like your outlook towards others

 

[Brujahpriest]

Honestly a business, as long as it is a private institution, has the right to do whatever they damn well please within the limits of the law. Discrimination is evident in business even from the marketing perspective, brands can exclude whole groups of people just by catering to another... but honestly I think that is more market segment targeting than discrimination.

Honestly the question I think that really should be asked is "Does it make good business sense?", and that one also has a fuzzy answer with me... for some business yes. The first that comes to mind for me... 4 and 5 star restaurants that want the classy atmosphere.

Now, if the establishment is a public trust... or utility such as the power company or post office... I would think that as long as you are dressed at least to the minimal accord with the law, then no you shouldnt be.