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Iran missile test 'provocative'



The US and Israel have condemned Iran after it test-fired a long range missile capable of reaching Tel Aviv.
Iran state media said nine missiles had been fired in total, including a new Shahab-3, with a range of 2,000km (1,240 miles).
Tehran has tested the missile before, but the latest launch comes amid rising tensions with the US and Israel over the country's nuclear programme.
A senior US state department official said the launch was "provocative".
Wednesday's early morning test at a remote desert site sent oil prices climbing.




Brig Gen Hoseyn Salami, commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guards' air force, said: "Our missiles are ready for shooting at any place and any time, quickly and with accuracy."
Western leaders have been attempting to convince Tehran to stop enriching uranium, which it has continued doing despite sanctions from the UN and the European Union, insisting its nuclear programme is purely for civilian energy.


US Under-secretary of State William Burns said that thanks to UN sanctions, Iran's real progress on its nuclear programme had been "modest", despite its sabre-rattling.
"We view force as an option that is on the table but a last resort," he told a Congressional hearing on Wednesday.
The launches were intended to deter any Israeli or US strike against Tehran's nuclear installations, says BBC diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus.
Our correspondent - who is in Israel - says the country has a fully operational anti-ballistic missile system, which Israeli military experts believe can counter any Iranian threat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/talking_point/default.stm

In the Israeli parliament, Housing Minister Ze'ev Boim said: "I suggest Israel will not talk, and Israel should prepare itself to do what is needed to do."
The White House and both American presidential candidates also condemned the Iranian test.
Describing Iran as a "great threat", the Democratic challenger, Barack Obama, called for tougher sanctions while his Republican rival, John McCain, said the test demonstrated the need for effective missile defence.
The French, German and Italian governments expressed concern at the missile tests.


On Monday, an adviser to Iran's supreme leader said it would retaliate against any military attack by hitting the Israeli city of Tel Aviv.
Other commanders have threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz, through which a large part of the world's oil flows, and to target the US and its allies around the world if Iran comes under attack.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has insisted his country had no intention of attacking Israel.
Speaking on a visit to Malaysia on Tuesday, Mr Ahmadinejad dismissed the possibility of an attack by the US or Israel as a "joke".




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Hans

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Ladies and gentlemen, I fear we are on the verge of what will be our last world war.
Its not like the missles can cross the atlantic, even if they managed to get to south america to fire missles, they wouldnt be able to hit all of america.

I dont see whats the difference of them firin a missle to tel aviv or just blowing up a bomb there, they both kill a lot of people.
 

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Have you seen a world map? 1,200 miles isnt even transcontinental. That and they have enough people willing to give their lives for their cause with domestic suicide bombs, I dont see how shooting a missle makes loss of life any different than a few pounds of C-x strapped to a zealots chest.
 

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Have you seen a world map? 1,200 miles isnt even transcontinental. That and they have enough people willing to give their lives for their cause with domestic suicide bombs, I dont see how shooting a missle makes loss of life any different than a few pounds of C-x strapped to a zealots chest.

It does if the're a fucking nuke!
 

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It does if the're a fucking nuke!

But they don't have a nuke, they aren't even close to having a nuke... but your country does. That is reason enough not to attack you with a nonexistent nuke, don't you think?
 

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But they don't have a nuke, they aren't even close to having a nuke... but your country does. That is reason enough not to attack you with a nonexistent nuke, don't you think?

Oh agreed, shame my government didn't when giving reasons for declaring war on Iraq! This still is quite worrying though, especially as we and the USA are most likely going to be the first to jump to a biased defense of Israel.:(
 

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it'll happen from within first peter........we have tens of thousands of middle easterners here now,it only needs a dozen to create a catastrophe
 

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Only one country has ever used nukes in war & for some reason they think that only they have the right to have weapons that are better than anyone else's. I don't agree with the proliferation of weapons anywhere in the world but I'm not really sure that I like the idea of America calling the shots either.

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USA only prevents arms development of potential trouble makers, a lot of nations like Geremany, France, England etc. etc. all have very capable military technology that is not hindered by the United States. Lets face it too, how many of you would want nuclear bombs being developed in places ran by unstable governments, peples, or groups? It is almost an act of bullying by the USA, but if thats what it takes to prevent a nuclear detonation anywhere, so be it.
 

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It is just my opinion, but I tend to think that having a group of bullies pick on all the upcomers is exactly the kind of situation that leads to conflict & I think I can give you a classic example.

There have been a number of school shooting around the world recently - mostly it was the kids being picked on by the others that did the shooting. In nearly all cases it appeared as if the shooters had had enough of being pushed around & so went for the ultimate form of defence - attack!

I know that some will argue that these kids may not have been very stable to begin with but isn't that the arguement that Hans just used.

how many of you would want nuclear bombs being developed in places ran by unstable governments, peoples, or groups?

I'm not saying that I want these people to develop WMD's, I'm just saying that I don't think that the form of control, practised by the US, is the best approach.

Allan
 

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It is just my opinion, but I tend to think that having a group of bullies pick on all the upcomers is exactly the kind of situation that leads to conflict & I think I can give you a classic example.

There have been a number of school shooting around the world recently - mostly it was the kids being picked on by the others that did the shooting. In nearly all cases it appeared as if the shooters had had enough of being pushed around & so went for the ultimate form of defence - attack!

I know that some will argue that these kids may not have been very stable to begin with but isn't that the arguement that Hans just used.



I'm not saying that I want these people to develop WMD's, I'm just saying that I don't think that the form of control, practised by the US, is the best approach.

Allan

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I'm not saying that I want these people to develop WMD's, I'm just saying that I don't think that the form of control, practised by the US, is the best approach.

How would you like to see it done? (I'm not trying to pick on you, I'm just genuinely curious. If somebody puts a better idea on the table, I'm all for it, but until then, I'm okay with doing what needs to be done.)
 

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How would you like to see it done? (I'm not trying to pick on you, I'm just genuinely curious. If somebody puts a better idea on the table, I'm all for it, but until then, I'm okay with doing what needs to be done.)

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Oh agreed, shame my government didn't when giving reasons for declaring war on Iraq! This still is quite worrying though, especially as we and the USA are most likely going to be the first to jump to a biased defense of Israel.:(
Any defense of Israel in this case isn't biased, in my opinion. Iran has vowed to wipe Israel off the map. Any attack by Israel to stop Iran from acquiring nukes is simply self-preservation.
 

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I am not eloquent enough to put into words what i would like to say here other than this is in fact a huge reason to be concerned the world over.
 
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