impeachable?

[retro]

For those of you who don't know, Joe Sestek has been claiming that the White House tried to get him to drop out of the PA Senate primary in exchange for an appointment in the administration. If those claims turn out to be true, and it's proven that Obama was aware of or approved this... does it qualify as a "high crime and misdemeanor"?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=158617

Oh, and just to get this out of the way... this discussion isn't about whether or not Bush should have been impeached, or anything else of the sort. Can we at least try to keep it on topic?

 

[hart]

I don't think Obama would be stupid enuf to promise anything like that. I do believe people might infer something like that and the guy attributed it to Obama...

My two cents.

 

[Peter Parka]

Lot of ifs in that really, probably best to wait till the facts are established before you call for his head, even if you'd like to get rid of him, whatever, anyway.

 

[Tim]

Did Obama try to bribe him personally or was it someone in the White House? Makes all the difference.

How can you impeach a president for an attempted bribe by someone else?

 

[Accountable]

I'm not even sure it's illegal. :shrug:

 

[Alien Allen]

Did Obama try to bribe him personally or was it someone in the White House? Makes all the difference.

How can you impeach a president for an attempted bribe by someone else?

Legally you are right. Because Rambo or whoever did it will fall on the sword and this will be swept under the rug. Of course the moron republicans if they get control of the house this fall might try to impeach.

Somebody should be held accountable. But won't. If this is all true you seriously don't think Rambo did this on his own do you?

I'm not even sure it's illegal. :shrug:

Just another bribe that only a politician could make legal

 

[Accountable]

The Healthscare and Crap On Trade bills were full of 'em.

 

[Alien Allen]

I know

Business as usual but seems to be getting worse or just being reported on more

 

[Tim]

On a side note... I'm in PA and I'm glad Spector is out... He's been in office for far too many years.

Sestak seems like a great choice and I will be voting for him.

 

[Tim]

The Healthscare and Crap On Trade bills were full of 'em.

Show me a piece of legislation that wasn't.

 

[Accountable]

No doubt!

 

[edgray]

http://mediamatters.org/research/201005260026

 

[Accountable]

http://mediamatters.org/research/201005260026

If it was -- are you interested in a job in the administration? End of conversation. Not a crime. If it was a quid pro quo, as you suggested -- are you interested in a high-ranking job in the administration if you leave Arlen Specter alone? That is an attempted bribe.

These guys are lawyers and know how to phrase things. If it happened at all, it would have been framed like a casual conversation.

"You're running a great race, sir. I know you'll do great things for the country. The President's really impressed with you. In fact, I heard that you were on his short list for a position in his cabinet. Of course I'm sure! I'm willing to bet he's still interested in appointing you, but he wouldn't want to interfere in your senate race. After the race? Well, the American People deserve a quicker decision. Besides, How would it look if the President picked a loser for such a prominent position?"

Not that I believe they would work that hard for a party traitor.

 

[retro]

Lot of ifs in that really, probably best to wait till the facts are established before you call for his head, even if you'd like to get rid of him, whatever, anyway.

I'm not calling for his head though... I'm asking the question. If he knew about it or approved it, is it impeachable? I seriously doubt that Obama himself made the offer (if it indeed happened), but if he approved it, that makes him just as guilty... but is it an impeachable offense?

 

[edgray]

I'm not calling for his head though... I'm asking the question. If he knew about it or approved it, is it impeachable? I seriously doubt that Obama himself made the offer (if it indeed happened), but if he approved it, that makes him just as guilty... but is it an impeachable offense?

according to the legal experts media matters consulted, its not.

which I find surprising. If he did know about it, surely that could classify as tampering with elections?

 

[Peter Parka]

I'm not calling for his head though... I'm asking the question. If he knew about it or approved it, is it impeachable? I seriously doubt that Obama himself made the offer (if it indeed happened), but if he approved it, that makes him just as guilty... but is it an impeachable offense?

But what you're asking is pretty much like me starting a thread asking something along the lines of...

I heard there was an alleged rape near where retro lives. The woman was alleging that it was done by retro's workmate. Should retro be sent to prison if it was found out that he was in someway involved or knew about it and approved?

You see, a baseless question which is in someway smearing someone without any facts.

It also stinks of your desperation to smear someone just because you dont like his party but are finding it hard to justify.

 

[retro]

But what you're asking is pretty much like me starting a thread asking something along the lines of...

I heard there was an alleged rape near where retro lives. The woman was alleging that it was done by retro's workmate. Should retro be sent to prison if it was found out that he was in someway involved or knew about it and approved?

You see, a baseless question which is in someway smearing someone without any facts.

It also stinks of your desperation to smear someone just because you dont like his party but are finding it hard to justify.

Except that the two situations are absolutely nothing like each other. Something happening near me is far different than if it happened in my house while I was there. For someone to allegedly offer a position within the administration, one would think that the president would at the very least be aware of it. Because it was an appointment within his administration, he would obviously have to make the appointment himself. So asking whether or not it would be an impeachable offense if he signed off on it or was aware of it is a perfectly legitimate question.

 

[Minor Axis]

There is no excuse for high crimes which seems like at the highest level of government no longer carries any traction on the scales of justice. Lying is more or less accepted in itself. I'm not saying that Obama is guilty based on the accusation alone. But next you could look into "W" and Cheney's high crimes. Lots more evidence there.

 

[Peter Parka]

Except that the two situations are absolutely nothing like each other. Something happening near me is far different than if it happened in my house while I was there. For someone to allegedly offer a position within the administration, one would think that the president would at the very least be aware of it. Because it was an appointment within his administration, he would obviously have to make the appointment himself. So asking whether or not it would be an impeachable offense if he signed off on it or was aware of it is a perfectly legitimate question.

Well ok, I'll give you that my example was a bit more extreme and had a few differences.
I'll tell you what, get back to me IF this guys allegations are proved and then IF it was then proved that Obama has something to do with it as well. Then I'll think it's worth answering, ok?

 

[Alien Allen]

Well ok, I'll give you that my example was a bit more extreme and had a few differences.
I'll tell you what, get back to me IF this guys allegations are proved and then IF it was then proved that Obama has something to do with it as well. Then I'll think it's worth answering, ok?

It would be a stretch beyond the imaginable if the offer was actually made to think Obama was not aware of it. Like Acc said they would have worded it to cover there ass but the intent would have been obvious.

There is no doubt in my mind this happened given that it was Sestak that commented on the offer to begin with.