imagine..the allies lost

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if the allies had lost WW11.....and i'll highlight america.....if the americans had lost in europe and then the pacific the mainland would have been all but helpless
the germans would have entered through new york while the japanese would have landed in SF....the country might have been divided by a simple line across the map just north of SF

THE GERMAN HALF
all jews,gypsies,blacks and people of eastern european descent would be interned in work camps(they're all subhuman),with the exception of attractive young women...they would have been enlisted into the joy division to pleasure the german troops.untill they caught a disease or fell pregnant when they would be put into a work camp..men and boys of fighting age will be inlisted into the army for the impending invasion of south america....space will be needed in the work camps for the importation of subhumans from the southern area ran by the japanese so the sickly and weak are disposed of..part of the deal is that everyone originating in any asian country conquered by the japanese are shipped to the south,plus the british because the imperial japanese now hold singapore

THE IMPERIAL JAPANESE HALF
everyone of asian appearance or british are put into camps at the request of the emporer...food is perhaps a raccoon thrown in by the guards every week,if they remember...jews,blacks,gypsies and anyone of eastern european descent are rounded up ans shipped to the german north....food is scarce because every resource is geared into feeding the imperial japanese army...those that remain 'free' need to look down,the samurai code applies now so if you look an officer in the eye you lose your head

i've only scratched the surface here but it seems that someone needs educating
 
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It may have been possible if we lost at Guattal Canal (Sp) for the Japanese side but with the Nazi V. Russia side the Nazis would stll have been beaten because the Soviets had such a hatred after Stalingrad.
 

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it was an incredible sacrifice made on our behalf by people that gave more than anyone could have asked of them. My Grandfather fought in the SBS, first on the shore at D-Day. Hats off to them all.

If we forget about their efforts, someone like Hitler may rise again.
 

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It may have been possible if we lost at Guattal Canal (Sp) for the Japanese side but with the Nazi V. Russia side the Nazis would stll have been beaten because the Soviets had such a hatred after Stalingrad.

Agreed. I think Hitler's biggest mistake was going into Russia. Not only are the Ruskies damn tough individuals, they make a fearsome army, especially on home turf, which is like the arctic to you and I.
 

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i can only imagine after seeing many a war movie like Saving Private Ryan if Normandy was anything like it was depicted...everyday I thank those who allow me to live my life
 

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Agreed. I think Hitler's biggest mistake was going into Russia. Not only are the Ruskies damn tough individuals, they make a fearsome army, especially on home turf, which is like the arctic to you and I.
and all the Russians fought, men, women side by side to defend their land
 

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Agreed. I think Hitler's biggest mistake was going into Russia. Not only are the Ruskies damn tough individuals, they make a fearsome army, especially on home turf, which is like the arctic to you and I.

Hitler probably could have conquered Russia if he really wanted to. Russia's enemies faced problems beyond the Russian army. Russia's harsh winters and vast size proved to be enormous obstacles themselves.
 

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Hitler probably could have conquered Russia if he really wanted to. Russia's enemies faced problems beyond the Russian army. Russia's harsh winters and vast size proved to be enormous obstacles themselves.

I don't agree. Hitler totally underestimated the Russian's resolve. And, as you say, only the Russian's were ready to fight in such terrible conditions. Hitler made the same mistake with the north of Finland if I remember rightly.

you all miss the point.....forget russia.....what if?

there are simply way too many variables. For example, Hitler had failed to successfully conquer Britain in 1941, so even a defeat at D-Day would've meant he still had to successfully invade Britain... I see your point though, we have so much to be thankful for.
 

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Unfortunately, certain people and their followers such as the BNP and the EDL seem to be trying their hardest to turn us into a Nazi country.
 

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Unfortunately, certain people and their followers such as the BNP and the EDL seem to be trying their hardest to turn us into a Nazi country.

Incredible isn't it? The worrying thing is that there is a significant portion of the UK that are afraid of muslims and islamic terrorism... they might end up with a lot of support.
 

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you all miss the point.....forget russia.....what if?
The American people wouldn't simply roll over. The Rockies and other mountain ranges would offer lots of hiding places for resistance forces.

Neither Japan or Germany had had any experience controlling such a vast land area. I'm not so sure either regime, or even both together, could handle the job of quelling a hostile populace spread out so far and wide.
 
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