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So last night I am flipping around channels and I catch Michael "the liar" Moore on Larry King. Now Larry King is not exactly credible journalism, but Moore has gotten plenty of air time on major media sources and you have to ask yourself why? The man has no degree (that I know of--could be wrong on that) and studied journalism. He has no fucking idea about what he's talking about. And his movie, Farenshit 911 was a complete and utter fabrication. The fact that the media treats him as a credible source is all the proof anyone needs of how jaded they are--no way would a right wing "journalist" (such as Ann Coulter) get any air time on major media. And Ann Coulter has a fucking law degree--she at least has the education to discuss the Constitution--Moore doesn't know the first thing about the Constitution, but he's given air time as an expert.

Bryan Preston on FahrenHYPE 9/11 on National Review Online

Army Specialist Peter Damon sits under a shade tree and relates his war story from Iraq. As he
and his best friend, Paul Bush, worked on a tire on their vehicle, an explosion went off. Bush was killed.
The camera pulls back, and you see for the first time that Damon didn't escape the incident unharmed. The explosion that killed his friend also took his arms from the elbows down. He is a young man with a young family, all with most of their lives ahead of them. His left sleeve is empty; his right arm has been replaced by a prosthesis with a sharp metal hook on the end. Damon is angry, and his voice takes on the tones of a man who knows he has been exploited.

He is not angry at President Bush for sending him to Iraq. Specialist Damon volunteered for the Army like all of our soldiers, and he is proud of his service in Iraq. He is not even particularly angry about the explosion that killed his friend and cost him his arms. He is angry with filmmaker Michael Moore.

While lying in a hospital bed at Walter Reed Army Hospital recovering weeks after the attack, NBC's Brian Williams interviewed the wounded soldier. Though Damon's arms are gone, he experiences "phantom pain" as if they were still attached. Though Moore never visited the military hospital and never even met Damon, he somehow obtained that NBC footage and used it in his film Fahrenheit 9/11, taking Damon's words out of context to make it appear that he is angry about the war and that his "phantom pain" is the pain of a soldier abandoned by his country and betrayed by his president. Nothing could be further from the truth.

At this point, Damon looks into the camera as though he is speaking directly to Michael Moore, and says, "You know you've lied in making this movie. You know you lied in my case, you know you lied in a whole lot of other cases."

Indeed, Michael Moore lied throughout Fahrenheit 9/11 — and not just about Specialist Damon. It's time to set the record straight.

Damon's story comes a little more than halfway through FahrenHYPE 9/11, the newly released documentary that means to be the antidote to Michael Moore's more famous film. Damon's story of exploitation at the hands of Moore is not unique: In fact, it is the norm. In Fahrenheit 9/11 Moore smears military recruiters and portrays American soldiers in Iraq as mindless monsters, then uses footage from the funerals of the fallen without even bothering to consult their families. He exploits the wounded and the dead without remorse, and smears the living with a devilish glee. He portrays President Bush as a cold-blooded, golf-club-wielding maniac, and portrays Saddam Hussein's Iraq as an idyllic land where children flew kites instead of being tossed into pre-teen prisons. Moore's film is an unconscionable exercise in deceit from start to finish. He obtained interviews under false pretenses, then used those interviews to insinuate things that the interview subjects neither believe nor support.

Case in point: Oregon State Trooper Andy Kenyon. Moore sent a crew to interview him under the guise of making a documentary about cutbacks in some state police programs. Moore did not attend the filming himself and his name never came up, for obvious reasons. The film crew led Kenyon to believe that the documentary was probably bound for public television, if it made broadcast at all. So Kenyon consented to the interview and answered questions related to those cutbacks. The day before Fahrenheit 9/11 opened, someone from Moore's production company called Kenyon to tell him he was in that film. Shocked, Kenyon went to see the film, only to see his answers about state-level cutbacks blamed on the Bush administration, and twisted to insinuate that in cutting Oregon's state police budget (something no president has the authority to do, since state-police budgets are a state matter), President Bush had left the Oregon coastline without police protection. But it was never the Oregon state-police force's job to patrol the coast in the first place. That responsibility belongs to the Coast Guard. In researching the story of Oregon's state-police cutbacks, it is impossible for Moore not to have learned these salient facts. Yet he left them all out to create a false impression that the Bush administration's tax cuts directly took needed police off the streets.

Kenyon's story is but one of several that Moore misuses to create false impressions and to willingly fool gullible or simply uninformed viewers. In exposing Moore's rampant dishonesty, FahrenHYPE 9/11 amounts a prosecutor's dossier against him.

While it may not be the most entertaining documentary ever made, FahrenHYPE 9/11 is a good and necessary film. In a time of war, Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11 has convinced millions of Americans and even some of our troops that we are fighting the war for oil or to make the president's friends rich — or for some reason other than to avenge 9/11 and make sure it never happens again. FahrenHYPE 9/11 refutes Michael Moore on his own turf.

Director Alan Peterson may seem like an unlikely person to battle one of the world's most famous (or infamous) filmmakers. Before 9/11, Peterson was a conventional liberal. But seeing the second plane hit the World Trade Center that morning changed him forever.

"Prior to that moment, I had considered myself an intellectual liberal. One of those people who think that they are superior because they believe they are privy to some hidden knowledge that the rest of the world doesn't understand; a knowledge that lets you belittle our government and nation because, of course, you know more than they do. In that single, horrific moment, I realized how stupid I was."

Peterson, a long-time freelance director and producer, saw his liberalism melt away in that instant. When Moore's antiwar film became the left-wing must-see movie this summer, Peterson decided something had to be done to counter it. Executive producers Lee Troxler and Jeff Hays agreed, and hired Peterson to direct a film that would respond directly to Fahrenheit 9/11.

. . . .

Far from being a personal screed or political tract against a single man, FahrenHYPE 9/11 is a thoughtful and dense film full of interesting and timely content. It is well written and well developed. There are a couple of minor aesthetic and storytelling choices that I found questionable, but overall it's a fine film. Covering the Patriot Act and the myriad terrorist attacks it has disrupted as well as the United Nations' massive Oil-for-Food scandal, FahrenHYPE 9/11 is a great primer for anyone confused about the complex war on jihad, or how we became involved in it, or how we are fighting it. For the liberals who made Michael Moore the toast of the summer and the Democratic National Convention, FahrenHYPE 9/11 should be required viewing. America needs this film to undo the damage Moore's movie has been doing all year.

Also check out:

Fifty-nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 911, Dave Kopel, Independence Institute
 
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Re: If There was any doubt on Media Bias, the Fact Michael Moore Gets Air Time is Pro

Oh no, everything in Moore's movie is accurate...and you know thats true because Bush didn't sue him.

Yeah a ridiculous statement but its one I've read several times in Moore's defense regarding that POS 911 movie.
 

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Oh no, everything in Moore's movie is accurate...and you know thats true because Bush didn't sue him.

Yeah a ridiculous statement but its one I've read several times in Moore's defense regarding that POS 911 movie.

Heard that one too--I explain that the 1st Amendment protects this garbage as political speech, which I actually agree with frankly (the protection part).

But that's the advantage Moore knows he has--a dumbed down populace that will believe any manner of garbage without giving it one minute of critical thought. Thing is that like just about anything, there is always some truth to it and that's true with Moore's proganda. I will give him that he is very clever--uses the truth to spin a web of deceit around it--essentially anchors the tripe with the truth.
 

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Looks and brains! That Michael moore has it all!
 

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Re: If There was any doubt on Media Bias, the Fact Michael Moore Gets Air Time is Pro

And his movie, Farenshit 911 was a complete and utter fabrication.

The typical and understandable reaction when you don't like your Administration of choice being trashed. No it can't be partially true, or mostly true, it has to be complete and utter fabrication, typical knee jerk.
Can't have anything bad said about our hero (Bush).

Speaking of Media bias, how about that Fox News? ;) Your problem Mulder is that you view everything as black or white, no in betweens allowed.
 

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Seems like if the administration were so bad he wouldn't have to be so deceitful and misrepresent info in his film.
 

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Re: If There was any doubt on Media Bias, the Fact Michael Moore Gets Air Time is Pro

There was an agenda in Fahrenheit 911 admittedly. I prefer honesty and I agree that it belittles your point whenever you exaggerate or fabricated to make your point because it smacks of the-end-justifies-the-means which I don't support.

On Moore's side, the Bush's do have a relationship with the Saudis. It is a philosophical discussion of how our armed forces recruit society's poor to go fight our wars. There was a sales agenda by NeoCon forces in the U.S. Government to misrepresent the need to go to war. The Carlyle Group does exist. Here is an example and another.

The bottom line, there is truth in Fahrenheit 911. We can sit around and debate how much.
 

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The typical and understandable reaction when you don't like your Administration of choice being trashed. No it can't be partially true, or mostly true, it has to be complete and utter fabrication, typical knee jerk.
Can't have anything bad said about our hero (Bush).

Speaking of Media bias, how about that Fox News? ;) Your problem Mulder is that you view everything as black or white, no in betweens allowed.

Its one thing to lie yourself if you want to, but this piece of garbage exploited innocent people--either tricked them or completely took their comments out of context. That what makes his such a slime bag.
 

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There was an agenda in Fahrenheit 911 admittedly. I prefer honesty and I agree that it belittles your point whenever you exaggerate or fabricated to make your point because it smacks of the-end-justifies-the-means which I don't support.

Then I don't know why you are a Democrat because that is the part of the-end-justifies-the-means. Because the liberals believe they are doing things for the poor--on the side of the downtrodden if you will, they believe the ends justify the means.
 

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Then I don't know why you are a Democrat because that is the part of the-end-justifies-the-means. Because the liberals believe they are doing things for the poor--on the side of the downtrodden if you will, they believe the ends justify the means.

I'm not a Democrat.

No matter what party you agree with, your message can be based on truth or lies or somewhere in between. Now if your position is that the Republican party political messages are based on truth, you've just indicted yourself. ;)
 

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Re: If There was any doubt on Media Bias, the Fact Michael Moore Gets Air Time is Pro

:24::24::24:

Best laugh I'll have all day!!!
yes denial comes in many forms

I have seen this from many. They claim they are liberal but not a democrat.

well who they gonna vote for then? they sure as hell are not republican or libertarian. ;)
 

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:24::24::24:

Best laugh I'll have all day!!!

I'll say it every time you accuse me of it. Currently I have aligned myself with the Democrats because they are the MUCH better choice. NATO, are they all Americans? I guess according to you...
 

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So last night I am flipping around channels and I catch Michael "the liar" Moore on Larry King. Now Larry King is not exactly credible journalism, but Moore has gotten plenty of air time on major media sources and you have to ask yourself why?

His ideas and comments garner controversy, he is also a popular figure amongst many Americans, more people would watch the program if there is a high-profile guest being interviewed. That equates to higher ratings for the network.

Just my guess anyway.

The man has no degree (that I know of--could be wrong on that) and studied journalism. He has no fucking idea about what he's talking about.
Conservatives like Sean Hannity have no formal tertiary education, neither does Rush Limbaugh, and they actually host programs. I don't suppose this would make me able to dismiss their opinions and ideas just because they haven't attained a degree. Same goes for some liberal commentators.

I'd tend to debate people on the merit of their ideas, rather than their qualifications.

No way would a right wing "journalist" (such as Ann Coulter) get any air time on major media. And Ann Coulter has a fucking law degree--she at least has the education to discuss the Constitution--Moore doesn't know the first thing about the Constitution, but he's given air time as an expert.

I've seen Ann Coulter on Fox News on a number of occasions, not sure I can agree with you there. Although in saying that I would have to accept Fox as a actual news organisation.
 

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I've seen Ann Coulter on Fox News on a number of occasions, not sure I can agree with you there. Although in saying that I would have to accept Fox as a actual news organisation.

Which you don't. ;) Fox is Right Wing Propaganda Central and Ann Coulter is a certifiable psycho. The hate that comes out of her mouth is stunning even for the Republican party.
 
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