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In God, Hell, Heaven, After Life and all this stuff. Its just plain simple, you live you die, the end. On the other hand i believe that some other forms of life excist out there and maybe some are far more tecnologicaly advanced than we are and some other maybe even far behind us. Whats your opinion?
 
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oh and even Science doesn't no or can explain everything. Scientists aren't all knowing.
 

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Religion has given hope to many people for thousands of years in one form or another, don't see why its not all true!?

Whilst science can explain most things, how do you explain science itself? its all a bit chicken and egg tbh!

As or other life firms, it seems implausible to think that human are the most advanced lifeform in the billions of miles we call space!
 

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Religion has given hope to many people for thousands of years in one form or another, don't see why its not all true!?

Whilst science can explain most things, how do you explain science itself? its all a bit chicken and egg tbh!

As or other life firms, it seems implausible to think that human are the most advanced lifeform in the billions of miles we call space!

okay i respect your opinion, but, given hope with what? i mean c'mon u could just give hope to yourself by just thinking *i can do this, i dont need anyone or anything to help me.*

Sorry for my bad english its not my native language.
 

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Ok for instance many people involved in the holocaust were given the hope that their lord had not forsaken them giving them the hope to continue to live on for another day. The fact that each day they survived was a blow to their nazi oppressors once again created faith in their religion. thus religion or belief in religion created hope and ultimately it also worked the other way around!

btw im not an overly religious person, european history student!
 

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Religion has given hope to many people for thousands of years in one form or another, don't see why its not all true!?

Whilst science can explain most things, how do you explain science itself? its all a bit chicken and egg tbh!

As or other life firms, it seems implausible to think that human are the most advanced lifeform in the billions of miles we call space!
Things that give hope to people can be corrosive. Just because it gives hope to some does not qualify it as truth.


Science doesn't have to explain itself because it needs no explanation. It simply explains other things.


Ok for instance many people involved in the holocaust were given the hope that their lord had not forsaken them giving them the hope to continue to live on for another day. The fact that each day they survived was a blow to their nazi oppressors once again created faith in their religion. thus religion or belief in religion created hope and ultimately it also worked the other way around!

btw im not an overly religious person, european history student!
Actually a large portion of jews thought the holocaust was brought on them as punishment from god for straying away from the Torah.
 

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I would tend toward there being no god and no aliens, ameobas on Mars or whatever is more plausable but not intelligent (on human scale) life force. However, there isn't any absolute argument for or against, so I keep an open mind. I do object to the gods of the Bible and Koran though. Even if they could be proved to exist (and their teachings contradict what we know as fact) I would think they are fucking cunts.i
 

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Because you have solid facts and proofs for everything.
This assumes that a unbending truth exists and that knowing those facts is somehow inherently valuable.

Religion has given hope to many people for thousands of years in one form or another, don't see why its not all true!?
For thousands of years religion has taught many people that they are worthless pawns that are all evil. It has taught them that life is just a mere test and is a torture that precedes some sort of blissful after life. It has taught people to hate themselves and hate life.
 

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oh and even Science doesn't no or can explain everything. Scientists aren't all knowing.

Sure, but I have a hard time believing anything without proof, supporting facts or scientific evidence.

Let's face it religion is need by many. It has been used over the years to control and provide a false sense of hope or moral value to the masses. Some people don't need this, but there are many who do.
 

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This assumes that a unbending truth exists and that knowing those facts is somehow inherently valuable.


For thousands of years religion has taught many people that they are worthless pawns that are all evil. It has taught them that life is just a mere test and is a torture that precedes some sort of blissful after life. It has taught people to hate themselves and hate life.
I would say I enjoy life much more with my "religion". Any religion that would cause a person to hate themselves or hate their life is not something I would want to be a part of.

Sure, but I have a hard time believing anything without proof, supporting facts or scientific evidence.

Let's face it religion is need by many. It has been used over the years to control and provide a false sense of hope or moral value to the masses. Some people don't need this, but there are many who do.
There have been many misuses of religion by false religions, I'll agree with you there.
 
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