Horror: A dying movie genre?

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Dodge_Sniper

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Get ready for a good, long rant. I wasn't sure if this should go in debate or entertainment, but please move it if needed.

With most movies I've seen come out, I've come to realize that the horror movie genre is beginning to die out. I hate to say it, but it is. Not many good horror movies are coming out these days. I'll refer back and forth to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning. A very good example for a horror movie.

TCMTB is the most physically draining movie I have ever seen- I was an emotional wreck by the time it was all said and done. Call me a pussy or whatever you will, but I quivered like a little girl throughout the entire film… my heart was racing at an abnormal rate like I had just drank three Red Bulls. If you challenge me I’ll straight out call you a liar, if you claim the movie was just “funny” then I’d say you have a problem dealing with true terror. I’m a hardcore horror fanatic just like most of you and I think you need to be honest with yourselves when it’s all said and done- embrace the fact that you were actually physically beaten up by a film.

Movies these days are certainly trying to accomplish the horror status, but many are failing, or falling short. Movies like BUG, or SAW III, they did good. But stuff like The Hills Have Eyes 2, or 1408 are just desensitizing people to what horror truely is. When I saw the remake of The Hills Have Eyes in theaters, I seriously was freaking out mentally. I couldn't even begin to describe how nervous I was, before it even started! I was having regrets, and wondering if I should leave. SPOILER: The scene with Dough hiding and Pluto busting through the wall, that terrified me. I didn't expect it, at all. END SPOILER

As I explained, these refined characters added to the intensity of TCMTB, which leads me to the pinnacle of the film. The true test of how effective a horror movie is as a whole is when one of the main characters dies. Spoiler: When Chrissie witnesses first hand the death of her boyfriend Eric, I nearly broke down. As Leatherface plunges the chainsaw into his stomach Eric screams in pain, the chainsaw roars… and even Chrissie shrieks. The potency of the moment was so extreme that I can see people having to leave the theater. Hell, I almost did! End Spoiler

Movies like HOSTEL try to bill themselves off as "the most brutal film in years", but it's not true. In HOSTEL much of the terror was implied with cut away editing and great sound effects, Liebesman doesn’t shy away from anything. We see heads brutally bashed in, legs broken, arms broken, teeth knocked out, flesh peeled off, heads blown off- you name it, it’s all in there. Every scene appears to be shown in its entirety, which only makes me wonder what the hell is going on at the MPAA? TEAM AMERICA has an urination scene and gets an NC-17, a guy gets his face peeled off in TCMTB and it gets an “R”? I’ll never quite get it.

I just think that with each year coming to an end, and each new year beginning, the horror movie genre is slowly but surely dying. This year, we had a good deal of horror movies. Zodiac, Dead Silence, Catacombs, Day of the Dead, The Breed, BUG, Thr3e, Primeval, The Hitcher, The Messengers, Hannibal Rising, Open Water 2: Adrift, The Abandoned, The Number 23, Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon, Memory, The Hills Have Eyes 2(For suspense), Grindhouse, Disturbia, Fracture, Vacancy, The Invisible, 28 Weeks Later, Hostel II, Captivity, Joshua, I Know Who Killed Me, Skinwalkers, THEM(Remake), Rob Zombie's Halloween, Hatchet, Bloodrayne 2, Resident Evil: Extinction, Return To House On Haunted Hill, 30 Days of Night, The Mist, Horrorfest 2007, and Alien vs. Predator 2: Requiem. Last year, I remember many more horror films than this though.

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Here's what I think the problem is: Hollywood creativity, in general, is dying. Look at your list of movies. How many are sequels or remakes? Hollywood hasn't had a good creative thought in years. They just churn out this drivel trying to make a quick buck.
 

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Here's what I think the problem is: Hollywood creativity, in general, is dying. Look at your list of movies. How many are sequels or remakes? Hollywood hasn't had a good creative thought in years. They just churn out this drivel trying to make a quick buck.

Exactly, that's one of the main reasons. Out of all of those, the only ones that are actually new movies, new GOOD movies, are Dead Silence, Catacombs, The Mist, etc. I mean, sequels are great when done right, and remakes can help out(The Texas Chainsaw Massacre), but they get boring and old. What we need is more creativity in Hollywood, more movies on their own, like Dead Silence.
 

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Sure it has.[/Sarcasm]
No really, there is very very very few "true" horror films anymore. The majority of "horror" released now is not even horror, but snuff films or gore for the sake of gore movies. Movies now a days rely on "OMG SOMETHING JUMPS OUT FROM THE DARKNESS!!!!" too much.


Take the the movie The shining, for example. Now THAT is a horror film. it blends so many elements of what makes us scared into one that its considered one of the best horror films of all time. Know why? It's because it doesn't rely on cheap parlor tricks to make us flinch a bit. It doesn't need someone being chopped apart by a chainsaw every 15 minutes, it doesn't need blond bimbos to attract young males to sell tickets, it doesn't need cheap "pop out and scare you" tactics. (although all of the aforementioned CAN be useful in a horror film, they should be used sparingly so to not make the movie predictable.) This movie actually disturbed you, because it dealt with things that scare us the most: desolate landscapes, insanity, isolation, disturbing hallucinations, hopelessness and the like. THOSE things are scary because we all fear them in real life.
 
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Yep, they are so desperate that they are playing Poltergeist for one day only this year? WTF?
 

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No really, there is very very very few "true" horror films anymore. The majority of "horror" released now is not even horror, but snuff films or gore for the sake of gore movies. Movies now a days rely on "OMG SOMETHING JUMPS OUT FROM THE DARKNESS!!!!" too much.


Take the the movie The shining, for example. Now THAT is a horror film. it blends so many elements of what makes us scared into one that its considered one of the best horror films of all time. Know why? It's because it doesn't rely on cheap parlor tricks to make us flinch a bit. It doesn't need someone being chopped apart by a chainsaw every 15 minutes, it doesn't need blond bimbos to attract young males to sell tickets, it doesn't need cheap "pop out and scare you" tactics. (although all of the aforementioned CAN be useful in a horror film, they should be used sparingly so to not make the movie predictable.) This movie actually disturbed you, because it dealt with things that scare us the most: desolate landscapes, insanity, isolation, disturbing hallucinations, hopelessness and the like. THOSE things are scary because we all fear them in real life.

I agree with you, The Shining was a great horror movie, classic. But at the same time, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning really did a great job, combining gore, suspense, emotional attatchment to the characters, and the "pop out and scare you" tactics, as well has the fact that not only was it loosely based on a true story, this really COULD happen. Leatherface isn't unstoppable, he's a regular human, with a sick appeal towards human flesh, as well as the desolate landscapes, insanity, hopelessness(At a certain point), etc.

But I do see where you're coming from. Thank you for elaborating on that statement.

Yep, they are so desperate that they are playing Poltergeist for one day only this year? WTF?

That's something I'm so hyped up for, I'll be there that day. I'm skipping school. :D
 

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The original Texas chainsaw was great I think.


Check out Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Such a great horror/science fiction movie. The ending is so memorable! haha
 

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I loved the original Texas Chainsaw, as well as the remakes. The old ones were so cheesy and low-budget, they were amazing! As well as being flatout terrifying. I've heard of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but never seen it. I dunno if this is considered horror exactly, but if you haven't, check out The Andromeda Strain. Great movie.
 

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I didn't consider The Number 23 a horror, or anything more than a drama/suspense.

I wasn't aware there was a "Return to House on Haunted Hill". The first one was creepy because of the jerky weird way the ghosts moved (kinda like Samara's spider-walk)

The Japanese are kicking our tails in good new horror.

The Shining was a perfect example of everything thats right with a horror movie, its a masterpiece (Thank you Kubrick)


My opinion overall, the quality of film-making as a whole is going downhill and not just the horror genre.
 

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I didn't consider The Number 23 a horror, or anything more than a drama/suspense.

I wasn't aware there was a "Return to House on Haunted Hill". The first one was creepy because of the jerky weird way the ghosts moved (kinda like Samara's spider-walk)

The Japanese are kicking our tails in good new horror.

The Shining was a perfect example of everything thats right with a horror movie, its a masterpiece (Thank you Kubrick)


My opinion overall, the quality of film-making as a whole is going downhill and not just the horror genre.
What movies?
 

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Meh, thats the sort of movies that spawned the whole "pop out and go BOO!" trend. The original Ringu was decent for what it was at the time though.
 

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Take the the movie The shining, for example. Now THAT is a horror film. it blends so many elements of what makes us scared into one that its considered one of the best horror films of all time. Know why? It's because it doesn't rely on cheap parlor tricks to make us flinch a bit. It doesn't need someone being chopped apart by a chainsaw every 15 minutes, it doesn't need blond bimbos to attract young males to sell tickets, it doesn't need cheap "pop out and scare you" tactics. (although all of the aforementioned CAN be useful in a horror film, they should be used sparingly so to not make the movie predictable.) This movie actually disturbed you, because it dealt with things that scare us the most: desolate landscapes, insanity, isolation, disturbing hallucinations, hopelessness and the like. THOSE things are scary because we all fear them in real life.
Excellent post. Agree'd.
 

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I agree with Donnie that the reason is because no one tries to think of anything new and we keep getting pointless and inferior re makes of classic films. The only horror film I've seen in recent years that is any good is Jeepers Creepers and even then they had to go and make a crap sequal. I guess its all to do with taste though and these crap remakes are going to continue to come out as long as people keep paying to go and watch them. Personally I'm not really into horror films greatly as I prefer films that either make you laugh or think which horror films rarely do.
 

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For me, the reason I think horror genres are going downhill is because horror movies have been around so long, Hollywood's starting to run out of things to make original movies out of. Don't get me wrong, they're still making some good original ideas, but it's got to be harder than it used to be. Not only that, but I think as a whole, the American, and possibly world-wide, culture is becoming harder and harder to scare. At least in my opinion, anyways. I mean, I haven't been scared by a horror movie since I was, like, 10 (not counting the Fear moments, like quick moments designed to give you a quick fright) Oh, and just as a side note... I considered Disturbia more of a thriller, not a horror movie.
 
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