Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!! ***Warning: Lots of Spoilers***

[Dodge_Sniper]

Normally, I'd post this in the SAW thread, but since it's the first actual update, it's gotta have its own thread

SAW V trap could potentially kill the actor in it


You're not sick of hearing about Jigsaw and his insane traps? Good to hear, because David Hackl is gearing up to direct his first film, SAW V, for Lionsgate. He's ready to chat and has a lot of good things to say, you can read it all inside. SAW V arrives in theaters October 24 from a screenplay by Marcus Dunstan and Patrick Melton.

Director David Hackl tells us that filming is only a month away. "We are five weeks from shooting, we are deep in prep now and the production offices are buzzing. On Monday our construction team begins to fill our newly renovated 38 thousand square foot studio (The same place that we shot Bousman's Repo! only cleaned up)."

Directing your first movie is an exciting moment, and Hackl is dreaming of a bright future. "It still amazes me when I look into an empty studio knowing that it will be full within a couple of weeks. Tony Ianni has moved into my old spot as production designer with zeal."

As for the traps, Hackl tells us that these are actually going to be dangerous! "Yesterday he (Tony Ianni) handed me a "reference" DVD from Jason Ehl our trap builder. I opened it just before leaving the office to go have my birthday dinner with my wife and kids. The disc was full of real life "inspiration" from industrial accidents, plane crashes and road disasters," he continues, "I almost hurled on my laptop. It all came from a discussion that we were having about the fact that the human body doesn't actually lose that much blood after the heart stops beating. It actually acts like a vessel, containing the blood unless there is an injury that allows it to drain downward. I like attention to detail." I wonder how the cast will react to the news that a trap could actually kill them!? "Today I am looking forward to making a phone call to one of our cast to ask him how he feels about getting into a trap that could potentially kill him. For real. Of course we will make it as safe as we can and have paramedics standing by while we shoot. Its not like he really has an option and maybe it will make him appreciate his life. Ha!!"

Watch for more SAW V goodness when filming begins next month.

 

[NicAuf]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

I doubt the trap could actually kill the actor. Seems like all hype to me. They need to pull in the audience somehow.

 

[Peter Parka]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

Haha! This feels like the good old times here, Dodge v NicAuf once more! Lets get ready to rumble!

opcorn2:opcorn2:

 

[NicAuf]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

Nah I'm not here for a rumble. However I stand by my previous post.

 

[Cotton]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

Saw movies are the shit. Can't wait for V.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

I doubt the trap could actually kill the actor. Seems like all hype to me. They need to pull in the audience somehow.

Take it from me, the one that's obsessed with the movies. The traps can kill. In fact, every trap from the previous movies could kill the actors.

SAW-
The Reverse Beartrap was fully motorized and working. The trap, if actually attatched to the jaws, could kill the actress.

The Drill Chair trap was functional and worked when activated.

SAW II-
The Venus Flytrap was also fully motorized and working. In fact, before SAW III came out, this trap was the most dangerous of the working contraptions. If misaligned with the actor, it could sever an ear. It was so powerful that the props designers had to drain the battery to the point of being almost being empty just so they could safely film it(Notice, the device activates rather slowly. The director sped up the film a bit to make it look faster though).

The magnum eyehole fired perfectly when the key was inserted and turned, setting off a blank. But it could be replaced with a bullet and actually fire.

The razor box really did lock when a person's arms were inserted into it, and the person could only be released by a second person. But for obvious safety reasons, plastic blades were used, rather than metal.

SAW III-
The Body Chains were attatched to the actor using prosthetic skin pieces, and were actually torn out. Obviously, this trap could be very easily used to kill a person.

The Angel Trap was activated through a system of magnets, which, when released, would set off the harness, killing the person inside it. At this point, this trap became the most dangerous trap in the franchise, because the actress had to wear a prosthetic body mold to imitate the ribs being torn out, and the organs falling out. The device was originally so powerful when activated, that it could harm, or even kill the actress. To protect the actress, the props designers crouched down behind the device, and used their hands(Rather than the magnet system) to manually activate the trap(Again, if you watch the film, it looks like it goes rather slow when activated. This is why. Again, the sped-up film approach was used).

The Ice Shower trap did have the actress actually hanging from the chains around her arms, but a box was placed under her feet to keep her arms safe, and the water system did work, and spray water on the actress.

The Rack trap was another one of the few extremely dangerous traps. This trap was also fully motorized and working, and could twist the limbs. To protect the actor, the props designers altered the gears to just spin, instead of spinning the entire sections for each body part, and they placed prosthetics on the actor, to give him the "twisted" look.

The Shotgun Collar did work, but for obvious safety reasons, the shells were empty.

SAW IV-
The Mausoleum trap did have the working device in the middle of the room, and could retract the chains, killing the people invovled.

The Hair trap did have working gears, and when a prosthetic wig was attatched from the actress's head to the device, it could remove the wig.

The Rapist trap did have working gears that, when activated, could tear off the limbs of a prosthetic body.

The Ice Block trap became the most dangerous trap in the franchise now. The actor was secured with chains on his wrists, and a chain around his neck(Although he wore a safety harness, to prevent slipping on the ice block and choking), and really did stand on an ice block. The device above his head was fully motorized and worked, but for safety reasons, the ice blocks couldn't be added until the death scene, so they didn't fall down and kill the actor, or harm anybody. The death scene device did have real ice blocks in it, and when activated, the arms would swing down, and the ice blocks would crush a prosthetic head, and both ice blocks would be destroyed.

The Billie Doll trap did have an air cannon in the face of the doll, so when fired, the face(Made of clay, for safety reasons) would explode, producing the shrapnel.

So it's not just a marketing thing, saying that the traps could kill the actor in them. The ones in the previous movies were not nearly as deadly as this one is going to be. If you read the article, David Hackl is going to make it as safe as he can, but they'll also have paramedics standing by while they shoot.

Haha! This feels like the good old times here, Dodge v NicAuf once more! Lets get ready to rumble!

opcorn2:opcorn2:

Haha, nice! Especially considering that I just finished watching Cinderella Man in History! But yes, just like good old times :cool

 

[Cotton]

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Hey Dodge since you are the Saw fanatic around here did you happen to notice in Saw IV that they showed a few people in Jigsaws flashbacks that he put in the house in Saw 2?

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

Hey Dodge since you are the Saw fanatic around here did you happen to notice in Saw IV that they showed a few people in Jigsaws flashbacks that he put in the house in Saw 2?

Actually, that was in SAW III, not SAW IV, and it showed Obi. They were going to explore a bit more into him and his connection with Jigsaw in SAW IV, but haven't done that just yet.

 

[NicAuf]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

Take it from me, the one that's obsessed with the movies. The traps can kill. In fact, every trap from the previous movies could kill the actors.

SAW-
The Reverse Beartrap was fully motorized and working. The trap, if actually attatched to the jaws, could kill the actress.

The Drill Chair trap was functional and worked when activated.

SAW II-
The Venus Flytrap was also fully motorized and working. In fact, before SAW III came out, this trap was the most dangerous of the working contraptions. If misaligned with the actor, it could sever an ear. It was so powerful that the props designers had to drain the battery to the point of being almost being empty just so they could safely film it(Notice, the device activates rather slowly. The director sped up the film a bit to make it look faster though).

The magnum eyehole fired perfectly when the key was inserted and turned, setting off a blank. But it could be replaced with a bullet and actually fire.

The razor box really did lock when a person's arms were inserted into it, and the person could only be released by a second person. But for obvious safety reasons, plastic blades were used, rather than metal.

SAW III-
The Body Chains were attatched to the actor using prosthetic skin pieces, and were actually torn out. Obviously, this trap could be very easily used to kill a person.

The Angel Trap was activated through a system of magnets, which, when released, would set off the harness, killing the person inside it. At this point, this trap became the most dangerous trap in the franchise, because the actress had to wear a prosthetic body mold to imitate the ribs being torn out, and the organs falling out. The device was originally so powerful when activated, that it could harm, or even kill the actress. To protect the actress, the props designers crouched down behind the device, and used their hands(Rather than the magnet system) to manually activate the trap(Again, if you watch the film, it looks like it goes rather slow when activated. This is why. Again, the sped-up film approach was used).

The Ice Shower trap did have the actress actually hanging from the chains around her arms, but a box was placed under her feet to keep her arms safe, and the water system did work, and spray water on the actress.

The Rack trap was another one of the few extremely dangerous traps. This trap was also fully motorized and working, and could twist the limbs. To protect the actor, the props designers altered the gears to just spin, instead of spinning the entire sections for each body part, and they placed prosthetics on the actor, to give him the "twisted" look.

The Shotgun Collar did work, but for obvious safety reasons, the shells were empty.

SAW IV-
The Mausoleum trap did have the working device in the middle of the room, and could retract the chains, killing the people invovled.

The Hair trap did have working gears, and when a prosthetic wig was attatched from the actress's head to the device, it could remove the wig.

The Rapist trap did have working gears that, when activated, could tear off the limbs of a prosthetic body.

The Ice Block trap became the most dangerous trap in the franchise now. The actor was secured with chains on his wrists, and a chain around his neck(Although he wore a safety harness, to prevent slipping on the ice block and choking), and really did stand on an ice block. The device above his head was fully motorized and worked, but for safety reasons, the ice blocks couldn't be added until the death scene, so they didn't fall down and kill the actor, or harm anybody. The death scene device did have real ice blocks in it, and when activated, the arms would swing down, and the ice blocks would crush a prosthetic head, and both ice blocks would be destroyed.

The Billie Doll trap did have an air cannon in the face of the doll, so when fired, the face(Made of clay, for safety reasons) would explode, producing the shrapnel.

So it's not just a marketing thing, saying that the traps could kill the actor in them. The ones in the previous movies were not nearly as deadly as this one is going to be. If you read the article, David Hackl is going to make it as safe as he can, but they'll also have paramedics standing by while they shoot.



Haha, nice! Especially considering that I just finished watching Cinderella Man in History! But yes, just like good old times :cool

Oh I don't doubt that the traps could kill people if implemented correctly, I just doubt that while filming the movies the actors were ever in danger of dieing.

 

[Cotton]

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Actually, that was in SAW III, not SAW IV, and it showed Obi. They were going to explore a bit more into him and his connection with Jigsaw in SAW IV, but haven't done that just yet.

Actually no. In Saw IV when Jigsaw is sitting outside the clinic waiting for his wife the prostitute that comes to the window is the same prostitute from Saw 2.

Also inside the clinic when the guy stands up and punches the other junky, the guy that did the punching, is the guy who is shot in the eye in Saw 2.

 

[Peter Parka]

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Actually no. In Saw IV when Jigsaw is sitting outside the clinic waiting for his wife the prostitute that comes to the window is the same prostitute from Saw 2.

Also inside the clinic when the guy stands up and punches the other junky, the guy that did the punching, is the guy who is shot in the eye in Saw 2.

Don't argue with Dodge about Saw films. Trust me, I don't care what you know about them, he knows more!:nod:

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

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Oh I don't doubt that the traps could kill people if implemented correctly, I just doubt that while filming the movies the actors were ever in danger of dieing.

Read the article, and the ideas that are being used for traps. Read, especially, my SAW III Angel trap discription. There are even paramedics that will be on set for SAW V. Knowing David, he wouldn't waste the money or time on getting paramedics on set if he was just lying.

Actually no. In Saw IV when Jigsaw is sitting outside the clinic waiting for his wife the prostitute that comes to the window is the same prostitute from Saw 2.

Also inside the clinic when the guy stands up and punches the other junky, the guy that did the punching, is the guy who is shot in the eye in Saw 2.

Oh, I know what you mean. Obi was in SAW III though. In SAW IV, you see Troy(The Body Chains victim, SAW III), Paul(The Razorwire Maze victim, SAW), Michael(The Venus Flytrap victim, SAW II), Trevor(The Mausoleum trap victim, bald man, SAW IV), Gus(The Magnum Eyehole victim, SAW II), Addison(The Razor Box victim, SAW II), and the Mystery Man(Amanda's trap, SAW). You also see Cecil from the Knife Chair trap.

Don't argue with Dodge about Saw films. Trust me, I don't care what you know about them, he knows more!:nod:

Sorry to sound like a jerk/conceited, but Peter's right. In the past four years of these films, I pretty much know every detail. I own every copy of each SAW movie that exists in the U.S.(As in, all four theatrical versions, and all of the Special Editions/Director's Cuts/Uncut Editions), a signed SAW III Director's Cut script, and a bottle of screen-used death blood from Jigsaw's death scene.

 

[Cotton]

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You also see the The hooker and the eye shot guy.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

You also see the The hooker and the eye shot guy.

I realize that, I just forgot to include it.

 

[Cotton]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

So what do you think the plot of Saw V is going to be? Think his ex wife is involved at all?

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Re: Hackl Talks 'Saw V', Dangerous Trap!!

So what do you think the plot of Saw V is going to be? Think his ex wife is involved at all?

Jill? Not entirely sure. It's way too early to tell at this point. She did seem a tad bit suspicious, but she was also fed up with all the police interviews and investigations she's had to go through because of John. All I know for certain at this point is that the Glass Box trap from SAW IV(Only shown, not used) will definately be in SAW V, and it will be the most gruesome trap of the franchise(The MPAA hated it, so Darren just took it out of SAW IV, rather than ruin it). Also, Costas Mandylor, Tobin Bell, and Scott Patterson are the only confirmed actors for the movie at this point. Although Patrick Melton hinted that SAW V will reveal what happened to Corbett after SAW III. There's no definate release date chosen yet, but David did say that if they can get the story right in time for filming(Which begins March 17th), they'll be aiming for a release date of October 24th.

 

[Cotton]

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Well I thought she seemed a bit shady. I hope they touch on what was in the letter that (cop guy forget his name) put in the envelope to Amanda. I also heard they're supposed to touch on the tricycle and the doll named Billy more in Saw V.

I assumed by the way the (cop guy forget his name) talked in Saw IV that he has Lynn and Jeffs daughter.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

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Actually, what was in Hoffman's letter is apparently going to remain a mystery, because, as Darren says, if you've seen the movies, you'll know what's in the letter. Also, yes, they said that Billie will be explained a bit more in SAW V. And if you saw the doll in Hoffman's arm in SAW IV, and the line, "It's a short story, believe me", then you'd know, yes, Hoffman does have Corbett.

 

[Cotton]

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I don't like that copout about "if you've seen the movies you know whats in the letter." I've seen the movies but I still don't understand what was in the letter that sent Amanda off the deep end.

And what happened to the FBI agent at the of Saw IV?

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

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I don't like that copout about "if you've seen the movies you know whats in the letter." I've seen the movies but I still don't understand what was in the letter that sent Amanda off the deep end.

And what happened to the FBI agent at the of Saw IV?

Sorry if I sound rude, but dude, SAW III perfectly gave clues to the contents of the letter, and SAW IV pretty much told what happened to Strahm(The FBI agent). If Amanda was crying and freaking out after the letter, and Hoffman was the one that wrote the letter, as well as being an apprentice to Jigsaw, what's the most logical answer to the puzzle(Pun intended)? Hoffman more than likely said something along the lines of, "You are not going to be the next Jigsaw, and I know what you've been doing to the traps", meaning that he was going to take over, and he knew that she was tampering with the traps. This would also explain the phrase in the autopsy tape in SAW IV, "You feel you now have control, don't you? You think you will walk away untested. I promise that my work will continue. That I have ensured. By hearing this tape, some will assume that this is over, but I am still among you. You think it's over just because I am dead. It's not over. The games have just begun". This more than likely means that Hoffman assumed he was the next Jigsaw, but John was setting him straight, and probably already has a person chosen to take over John's work, who will be testing Hoffman in SAW V.

As for Strahm, SAW IV also answered this, in the first 5 minutes of the movie actually. If Strahm was locked in the room with Jigsaw, and they have Jigsaw's body in custody, and are doing an autopsy on it, then obviously, Strahms out, and alive. There was a deleted scene where Hoffman called for back-up, and when they arrived, they found Strahm alive, with Hoffman playing stupid, acting like he didn't trap Strahm, and made the comment, "Nobody survived, it's a blood-bath in there", with Strahm agreeing.

Also, excuse my rudeness again, but you can't just walk into these movies, assuming you'll be handed the answers to the puzzles. These movies are made for the fans, the true fans, and therefore, the answers to the questions that most people don't know are actually pretty easily explained by a true fan(Like me). Going back to that letter, it's like Darren said on the commentary for SAW IV, "You don't need to know what's in the letter. All you need to know is that Hoffman wrote it, and it caused Amanda to react the way she did".