God is almost omnipotent. He has many limits.

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God is almost omnipotent. Hehas many limits.

Omnipotent is defined in partas having power or authority without limits IOW, almighty.

Seems to me that God has afew limits.

He cannot reproduce true.
He cannot enjoy sex.
He cannot reproduce withoutbestiality or cross species breeding.
He can only reproduce halfbreed chimeras like Jesus.
He could not create a heavenwithout Satan.
He could not create Edenwithout evil in it.
He cannot control waywarddemons or devils.
He cannot sin, althoughscripture says he does.
He cannot live without needslike adoration, honour, obedience, love.
He cannot accept a soul intoheaven without us accepting Jesus and human sacrifice.
He could not forgive sinwithout having Jesus sacrificed.
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How then can Christians saythat God omnipotent, all-powerful and without limits when he clearly has many?

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God is almost omnipotent. Hehas many limits.

Omnipotent is defined in partas having power or authority without limits IOW, almighty.

Seems to me that God has afew limits.

He cannot reproduce true.
He cannot enjoy sex.
He cannot reproduce withoutbestiality or cross species breeding.
He can only reproduce halfbreed chimeras like Jesus.
He could not create a heavenwithout Satan.
He could not create Edenwithout evil in it.
He cannot control waywarddemons or devils.
He cannot sin, althoughscripture says he does.
He cannot live without needslike adoration, honour, obedience, love.
He cannot accept a soul intoheaven without us accepting Jesus and human sacrifice.
He could not forgive sinwithout having Jesus sacrificed.
Feel free to add to thislist.

How then can Christians saythat God omnipotent, all-powerful and without limits when he clearly has many?

Regards
DL

Is this your belief or are you again playing Devil's advocate based on what's in the Bible? If it is what you believe, how would you know about the first 2 on your list? :)
 

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Is this your belief or are you again playing Devil's advocate based on what's in the Bible? If it is what you believe, how would you know about the first 2 on your list? :)

I do not believe in bible God.

What I wrote is what I believe based on logic, reason and what the bible tells us.

Logic says that if he could reproduce true then he would not have bothered using lowly woman, bestiality to him and us, for reproduction.

As to pleasure. Sex is basically friction of sexual parts.

God is said to not be corporeal and so friction is impossible.

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I do not believe in bible God.

What I wrote is what I believe based on logic, reason and what the bible tells us.

Logic says that if he could reproduce true then he would not have bothered using lowly woman, bestiality to him and us, for reproduction.

As to pleasure. Sex is basically friction of sexual parts.

God is said to not be corporeal and so friction is impossible.

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DL
im guessing youve never had tantric sex then
 

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I do not believe in bible God.

What I wrote is what I believe based on logic, reason and what the bible tells us.

Logic says that if he could reproduce true then he would not have bothered using lowly woman, bestiality to him and us, for reproduction.

As to pleasure. Sex is basically friction of sexual parts.

God is said to not be corporeal and so friction is impossible.

Regards
DL

Gods need to plant his seed in Mary was to create a human, connected to the human race, vs snapping his fingers and conjuring one out of thin air. That's if you believe such stories. ;)

Did you see Cocoon and its in the pool sex with an alien scene? Foreplay was a ball of energy flying around the room before it imbeds itself right in Steve Guttenburg's chest. I can easily imagine other types of spiritual encounters that provide the good sexual type vibes, can't you? According to psychic Sylvia Brown, souls enjoy "merging" (if I got the term right). Not mentioned as a fact but for fun. :)
 

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I do not believe in bible God.

What I wrote is what I believe based on logic, reason and what the bible tells us.
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What you really mean is that you cherry pick elements from scripture to support the non-Christian myths you've accepted as fact and ignore theological relevance that contradicts your opinion
There is no logic to that kind of approach, it's your opinion.
 

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Logic says that if he could reproduce true then he would not have bothered using lowly woman, bestiality to him and us, for reproduction.
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Logic says you don't know what you're talking about.
In a typical Christian scenario, Jesus isn't the offspring of God.......he is God.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

You're only posting silliness based on simple minded sophistry while addressing a complex theological topic.
 

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Gods need to plant his seed in Mary was to create a human, connected to the human race, vs snapping his fingers and conjuring one out of thin air. That's if you believe such stories. ;)

Did you see Cocoon and its in the pool sex with an alien scene? Foreplay was a ball of energy flying around the room before it imbeds itself right in Steve Guttenburg's chest. I can easily imagine other types of spiritual encounters that provide the good sexual type vibes, can't you? According to psychic Sylvia Brown, souls enjoy "merging" (if I got the term right). Not mentioned as a fact but for fun. :)

Mental merging is pleasant for sure.
As to God wanting to merge with the human race. That is like saying it is ok for man to want to merge with the lower animals we know.

Look out sheep.

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What you really mean is that you cherry pick elements from scripture to support the non-Christian myths you've accepted as fact and ignore theological relevance that contradicts your opinion
There is no logic to that kind of approach, it's your opinion.

There is nothing here that speaks to my beliefs.

If there was any theological relevance that you could use against what I wrote, I am sure you would have put it forward instead of just alluding to these mysterious text and replacing them with your usual B S.

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There is nothing here that speaks to my beliefs.

If there was any theological relevance that you could use against what I wrote, I am sure you would have put it forward instead of just alluding to these mysterious text and replacing them with your usual B S.

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There is nothing here that speaks to my beliefs.
You are certainly welcome to believe what ever you choose for what ever reason.

But you have been projecting those reasons as facts and all you've been doing is presenting the art of sophistry ( poorly at that ) as the rationale for those 'facts'.

The logic of that line of thought is called fallacious logic.


If there was any theological relevance that you could use against what I wrote ....
There is no 'if'. The Trinity is part of Christian doctrine and you merely deny it's existence in the manner of your claims. You claim to be using logic, but denial and childish sophistry are all you've been presenting in your arguments.



I am sure ............

:D
Good one :thumbup


you would have put it forward instead of just alluding to these mysterious text and replacing them with your usual B S.
I see issues with reading comprehension :p

Click on the links I post .
[FONT=&quot]If the English language is a struggle for you, Google offers up a translation service that can do entire web pages at a time :rolleyes:[/FONT]
 

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As to God wanting to merge with the human race. That is like saying it is ok for man to want to merge with the lower animals we know.

Look out sheep.

Regards
DL

I once posted that you could improve yourself by taking courses in critical thinking.
I strongly suggest you do because you make yourself look like a fool with much of your childish sophistry.

As to God wanting to merge with the human race. That is like saying it is ok for man to want to merge with the lower animals we know.
No. And here is the flaw in your logic:
The belief in/of God incorporates the idea that God is the creator of life.
This is an intimate relationship ( non sexual just in case the concept I'm using confuses you :rolleyes: ) between creator and creation.
Man does not create. Man at best reassembles what already exists.

So....your sheep analogy is shit logic.
Does that help?
 

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But gnostics do seem to put stock in magic/magik sex as a path to understanding the divine, as I mentioned before.
Are you denying that avenue of enlightenment or just feel uneasy about discussing intimate sexual relationships associated with gnosticism?


http://gnoscast.blogspot.com/2009/09/brief-history-of-sexual-magic-groups.html


http://www.vopus.org/en/gnosis/alchemy/kundalini-sexual-magic-great-arcanum.html

I have no taboos about discussing anything. The connection youare making I did not make for my brand of Gnosticism. You will know that thereare as many Gnostic sects as there are Christians one. Some go to more esotericpractices and some not. This sexual connection I had no information on and wasnot even mentioned by Elaine Pagels work which is what educated me on my brandof Gnosticism.


It does not surprise me thought because all religions fromwhat I can see came out of pagan sects and they were also all over the map interms of rituals.

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I have no taboos about discussing anything. The connection youare making I did not make for my brand of Gnosticism. You will know that thereare as many Gnostic sects as there are Christians one. Some go to more esotericpractices and some not. This sexual connection I had no information on and wasnot even mentioned by Elaine Pagels work which is what educated me on my brandof Gnosticism.


It does not surprise me thought because all religions fromwhat I can see came out of pagan sects and they were also all over the map interms of rituals.

Regards
DL


I have no taboos about discussing anything
I know......you merely deny, avoid or spin.


The connection youare making I did not make for my brand of Gnosticism.
You ought to check your posts closer.......you do apparently focus on the sexuality of all but your own beliefs which you have stated before, you intend to avoid.
The absence of comparison leaves much to imagine, especially when you treat your own position as a taboo subject that you deny as being off limits........after putting it off limits.
That sounds like the ultimate of cherry picking :eek


You will know that thereare as many Gnostic sects as there are Christians one.
But gnostics that are Christian isn't on any list I've seen and the terms together create a contradiction when your beliefs are considered.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian

The description below of a Christian is not you in any twisted sense.
A Christian (About this sound pronunciation (help·info), (from the Ancient Greek: Χριστιανός Christianos) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth as recorded in the Canonical gospels and the letters of the New Testament. "Christian" derives from the Koine Greek word Christ, a translation of the Biblical Hebrew term Messiah.[1]

Central to the Christian faith is the gospel, the teaching that humans have hope for salvation through the message and work of Jesus, and particularly, his atoning death on the cross. Christians also believe Jesus is the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrew Bible.[2] Most Christians believe in the doctrine of the Trinity ("tri-unity"), a description of God as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This includes the vast majority of churches in Christianity, although a minority are Non-trinitarians.

GIA.......as a gnostic christian, you are the definition of non sequitur. None of your logic follows. It's designed as an attack weapon rather than a search for truth and enlightenment.
Cripes, GIA.......read what you post......it's mostly sophistry and contextual abuse.

Plus.......the 'literature' that is called the Nag Hammadi Library is mostly uncredited speculation written centuries after the death of Christ by unknown authors with unknown associations to the origin of claims made.
You like to mock the Holy Bible, but you actually worship the imaginations of mostly unknown authors that have no credible standing.
Fine........but when you claim logic and use fantasy for fact.......you're the same type of hypocrite as the Fundamentalist that defines Genesis as a scientific explanation for creation.
I will say your brand of hypocrisy is a lot more amusing, but that may be from only recently experiencing it.
Where the Fundamentalist is too often trying to destroy the educational process, you're off in a corner discussing the rubbing together of sex parts :D


It does not surprise me thought because all religions fromwhat I can see came out of pagan sects and they were also all over the map interms of rituals.
It's reasonable to consider that religion would evolve as man's intellect matured.........but that's not supportive of your embracing concepts and ideas that have long been superceeded.
Intellect is evolving and you've been left to contemplate your own extinction.
 
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