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Peter Parka

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Had enough of them now. Think it's time for this evil family to be got rid of, one way or the other when they are guilty of abusing mentally ill people. (yeah, I know this article is from the Daily Fail but the program wasn't. Absolutely sickening!)


The ensuing scandal, which prompted an anonymous source to provide a gravestone for Nerissa, made little difference to her sister’s life. Katherine received no visitors at the asylum, and as her aunt, the Queen Mother, lived on into cosseted old age, she did not possess even her own underwear – at least untilher final years there – and had to dress from a communal wardrobe.
Now a Channel 4 documentary tells the story of the Queen’s hidden cousins, born in an era when children with learning disabilities were a family’s shameful secret.
They were no problem to look after but they were mischievous, like naughty children. Katherine was a scallywag.

Photographs of Katherine Bowes-Lyon show a distinct resemblance to the Queen, and Onelle Braithwaite says the sisters’ story was common knowledge when she arrived at the asylum as a 20-year-old nurse in the mid-1970s.
‘If the Queen or Queen Mum were ever on television, they’d curtsey – very regal, very low. Obviously there was some sort of memory. It was so sad. Just think of the life they might have had. They were two lovely sisters. They didn’t have any speech but they’d point and make noises, and when you knew them, you could understand what they were trying to say. Today they’d probably be given speech therapy and they’d communicate much better. They understood more than you’d think.’

Former ward sister Dot Penfold, now retired from nursing, also has fond memories. ‘They were no problem to look after but they were mischievous, like naughty children. Katherine was a scallywag. You could scream at her and she’d turn a deaf ear.’

article-2059831-0EB905A800000578-653_233x534.jpg Katherine, 85, is still alive and is believed to be living in a care home in Surrey

Nerissa was born in 1919, and Katherine in 1926. Their father was John Bowes-Lyon, one of the Queen Mother’s older brothers and a son of the Earl of Strathmore. John died in 1930 and was survived, until
1966, by the girls’ mother, Fenella.

The sisters were unfortunate to have been born in an era when mental disability was seen as a threat to society and linked to promiscuity, feckless breeding and petty crime, the characteristics of the underclass; associations encouraged by popular belief in the science of eugenics, soon to be embraced by the Nazis.

‘So the belief was if you had a child with a learning disability, there was something in your family that was suspect and wrong,’ explains Jan Walmsley, the Open University’s professor in the history of learning disabilities.

For the Bowes-Lyons, this was a stigma that could threaten their social standing and taint the marital prospects of their other children. (Nerissa and Katherine’s beautiful and healthy sister Anne became a princess of Denmark by her second marriage; by her first marriage, she was Viscountess Anson and mother of the society photographer, the late Lord Lichfield.)

The imposing Royal Earlswood was the country’s first purpose-built asylum for people with learning disabilities. Nerissa and Katherine were 15 and 22 respectively when they were admitted. Nerissa’s medical records categorise her as ‘imbecile’. ‘She makes unintelligible noises all the time,’ stated a doctor. ‘Very affectionate… can say a few babyish words.’

Judy Wilkinson, 67, from Godalming, Surrey, recalls her apprehension when visiting the Royal Earlswood as a young girl in the 1950s, when her elder sister Nicola, who was brain-damaged at birth, was consigned there. ‘I’d get that gripping feeling of dread,’ Judy explains, and she remembers feeling puzzled that her sister was always wearing the same green coat, which never seemed to wear out.

Now she realises that the inmates wore their own clothes only if they had visitors. But for Nerissa and Katherine, there were few if any visitors. ‘I never saw anybody come,’ says Dot Penfold. ‘The impression I had was that they’d been forgotten.’

From the late 1960s, a wave of scandals exposed conditions in institutions that were severely understaffed and overcrowded. The Royal Earlswood was closed in 1997; at least one former nurse has alleged patients were abused. The grandiose building has since been converted into luxury apartments, while Katherine is believed to be living in a care home in Surrey. Her relationship with her family remains unchanged.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...ng-documentary-reveals-all.html#ixzz1e9jzGmoU
 
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That is horrible and I am not trying to defend the family

However I think you will find many people of wealth did that back in the day.

I am not condoning it. I find it sickening. Just saying that it was not exactly unheard of back then.


John Kennedys older sister was similarly shipped away. She was too pretty and too dumb to be Kennedy so they did a labotomy that basically incapacitated her and then she spent the rest of her life in homes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy

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However I think you will find many people of wealth did that back in the day.


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Back in the day I can understand but this is going on today. Katherine is still alive and the Queen, her cousin has nothing to do with her and dosen't even send her a Christmas or birthday card.
 

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Back in the day I can understand but this is going on today. Katherine is still alive and the Queen, her cousin has nothing to do with her and dosen't even send her a Christmas or birthday card.

Kennedy only recently died if I am not mistaken. Out of sight out of mind I guess they figure.
 

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It's very sad, bad and shocking that it's still going on today. I just think it's wrong that we are supporting a family like this to live in the lap of luxoury. It's one issue, regardless but the one issue that tipped me over the top. Let them support themself, I'm sure Charles income from the Duchy of Cornwall could comfortably support the royals alone.
 

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That is horrible and I am not trying to defend the family

However I think you will find many people of wealth did that back in the day.

I am not condoning it. I find it sickening. Just saying that it was not exactly unheard of back then.


John Kennedys older sister was similarly shipped away. She was too pretty and too dumb to be Kennedy so they did a labotomy that basically incapacitated her and then she spent the rest of her life in homes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosemary_Kennedy

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:homo: And it was not just the Royal families but most of society that believed this as well, some still do and England is one of the countries still a bit backwards when it comes to the welfare of the handicapped. Even my own family in England shuns the handcapped. I have two cousins with exceptionalities which majority of the family pay very little attention to. I also have an aunt and uncle who aborted their son in the later stages of pregnancy because they discovered he was a down syndrome baby.

Even over here, a lot of parents whom discover they are about to have a child with retardation's place their children into the foster care system or up for adoption as soon as it is birthed.

We still live in a society that on a whole does not except nor want retardation in their families. A lot of people who do look after children with issues are not the children's biological parent....and it goes without saying, it does take a lot to be a parent or relative to look after some of these exceptionalities. Plus add on the fact that there is only a 2% chance of a marriage working when dealing with children with exceptionalities.

I'm not condoning it but i am understanding it, and can not make judgement on them for most families back then and today, in or out of the spot light, have and still do believe in this way of dealing with the exceptional. We are not yet in a society that 'likes' or understands exceptional people, and I'm afraid we are far off from it as we still kill each other over the colour of our skins and religion.
 

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Different days and times people. Keep that in mind if you're able to.

As far as contact with cousins is concerned I doubt there is one person on this board that keeps in contact with , and that includes sending cards at birthdays, every cousin they have so why criticize the Queen for that.
 

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yes, exactly. :nod: I know of a few who have once they tested positive that something was not right with the baby.

Exactly my point... and to think it's fairly acceptable these days. Who knows how society will judge in in 30 - 40 or 50 years.


I don't condone what the royal family has done in Peters OP but it surely isn't a reason to get rid of 'em. I could think of many more valid reasons to punt them highest paid welfare recipients.

btw...................

The mentally ill were shipped off...
Virgins were welcomed in my home with open arms.
Unwed mothers were shipped off...
Did I say virgins were welcomed in my home with open arms. :D

Them times they are a changing because Mrs. Guyzerr no longer allows me to welcome strange virgins into my home.
 

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:homo: And it was not just the Royal families but most of society that believed this as well, some still do and England is one of the countries still a bit backwards when it comes to the welfare of the handicapped. Even my own family in England shuns the handcapped. I have two cousins with exceptionalities which majority of the family pay very little attention to. I also have an aunt and uncle who aborted their son in the later stages of pregnancy because they discovered he was a down syndrome baby.

Even over here, a lot of parents whom discover they are about to have a child with retardation's place their children into the foster care system or up for adoption as soon as it is birthed.

We still live in a society that on a whole does not except nor want retardation in their families. A lot of people who do look after children with issues are not the children's biological parent....and it goes without saying, it does take a lot to be a parent or relative to look after some of these exceptionalities. Plus add on the fact that there is only a 2% chance of a marriage working when dealing with children with exceptionalities.

I'm not condoning it but i am understanding it, and can not make judgement on them for most families back then and today, in or out of the spot light, have and still do believe in this way of dealing with the exceptional. We are not yet in a society that 'likes' or understands exceptional people, and I'm afraid we are far off from it as we still kill each other over the colour of our skins and religion.

I agree completely. Hiding away and forgetting about people with disabilities is still alive and well in the UK. I worked in a special needs school (for children with serious mental and physical disabilities) for work experience in 2005 and it was harrowing watching how little the parents cared for their children (some couldn't even be bothered to bathe their children, change clothes, feed them properly or change their nappies) and how little they actually saw their children (just shipped them off to school and various clubs, all day every day. Quite a lot of the children only saw their parents for bedtimes and in the morning before being put on a bus to somewhere)
 

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i cant even understand why it was less disgusting to do things like that 60 years ago from today. they should make the queen live in poverty for the rest of her life...just for knowing she doesn't at all care about her own blood.
 

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It's ironic at the very least.
You have to view this with a sort of irony, the sister was cast off to protect the image of the Royal family, and 60 years later, it's come back and greatly dented their image.

If the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge had a retard child, I'm sure they'd keep it this time round for humanitarian reasons and not public relations. :sarcasm
 

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Thimgs were different back in the day... Mentally ill people or mentally challenged were thrown into asylums. It was the norm... Luckily tmes have changed.
 

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Thimgs were different back in the day... Mentally ill people or mentally challenged were thrown into asylums. It was the norm... Luckily tmes have changed.


Except if you actually read the OP you would see that it hasn't and we're talking about something going on TODAY.
 
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