all i see on the news is our troops dying by snipers.we trying to training the milatary there and they dont give a shit..we been there to long i think, the iraq's hate us and want us dead. if they cant police there country by now the hell with them get our troops home . and drop a bomb on them when they got a big get together. i supported the war , but this is riculeoues .what you think ? U.S needs to claim victory! and get all out troops home form the middle east , i do think we need binladen still. but drop a bomb on his ass when hes spotted.
FUCK IRAQ! get our troops home.
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Peter Parka
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I personally didn't support the war in Iraq which has nothing to do with Al Queda and Bin Laden. Overthrowing a goverment is going to cause huge chaos in any country especially one as fucked up as Iraq. With this in mind I think it's unfair on the innocent Iraquis to leave them to sort out this mess when we caused it.
Sneakiecat
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Let me start by saying my husband is a Marine and has been in Iraq since February. He's found that most of the Iraqis he's come in contact with are happy that we're there. Yes, there are insurgences and yes, they are killing our troops (though I think more are being killed by IED than snipers). But we went into this war knowing that people will be killed. I don't think anyone expect there not to be. If we leave now, we accomplished nothing. OK, so there were no WMDs or links to al-Qaeda. But Saddam was torturing and killing his own people. Why should he be in power? The Iraqi government is not ready to be completely on their own and if we were to leave, it would fall to pieces. And we would have to start all over again.
Do I think we should bring our troops home as soon as possible? Yes, but I don't think we should rush it.
Do I think we should bring our troops home as soon as possible? Yes, but I don't think we should rush it.
why the hell do we have to be there in the first place. thats what i dont understand. Bush said we were going there cause they had WMD. which was BS. IMO he was trying to do something his father couldnt/dint do.
i think we have got to stop worrying about other countries and start worrying about our selfs. Americans should come first.
i fucking HATE bush. he's a horible president.
i think we have got to stop worrying about other countries and start worrying about our selfs. Americans should come first.
i fucking HATE bush. he's a horible president.
GuesSAngel
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There is a certain 'we' that didn't chose to be in war. There is no public vote that goes towards the government asking what we should do about other countries. I think that we should rush into bringing our troops home, b/c the slower things go, the more people that die. And who cares if Saddam is killing and torturing his own people? Let his own people take care of that. The US has so many problems of it's own that needs to be focused on.
And I couldn't agree with you more
White2000GT
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I see both sides of the argument here. I do agree that there should be a drawdown of troops (which of course, Bush is against because he actually is deluded enough to think that we can win this war) but I do not think that we should just go cold Turkey and bring them all out at once. There is no denying that the real reason we were ordered into Iraq is because of the oil. Let's be real people. Iraq is what... like the third or fourth largest producer of crude oil? Imagine if we leave that country cold Turkey and the insurgents overthrow the "government" that was set up there. They control all the oil Iraq has now and they decide they don't want to sell it to the U.S. anymore. You think gas prices are stupid now? I know this is a longshot and probably would never happen, but it is a possibility.
That said, I think Bush needs to heed the advice he is getting from his advisors and, now, his own Party Members, and come up with a plan to get us out of there. We can not win that war. It is already being compared to Vietnam, and we know how that one turned out. He needs to start kissing the UN's butt and get them to send in some Peace Keepers to help stabilize the region. That's their job. Sure, we would have to leave some troops in place there for at least another year or two to help with the UN force, but less troops means shorter deployments because there would be a better rotation of them. And less troops means, hopefully, fewer senseless American casualties.
I envision a future where within the next two years there are no more Americans in Iraq. And, in two years when Bush is out of office for good, he, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice are all brought up on charges of criminal negligence in the handling of the Iraq war and have to pay reparations out of their own oil-money lined pockets to the families of all the troops who have been needlessly killed in this senseless war.
That said, I think Bush needs to heed the advice he is getting from his advisors and, now, his own Party Members, and come up with a plan to get us out of there. We can not win that war. It is already being compared to Vietnam, and we know how that one turned out. He needs to start kissing the UN's butt and get them to send in some Peace Keepers to help stabilize the region. That's their job. Sure, we would have to leave some troops in place there for at least another year or two to help with the UN force, but less troops means shorter deployments because there would be a better rotation of them. And less troops means, hopefully, fewer senseless American casualties.
I envision a future where within the next two years there are no more Americans in Iraq. And, in two years when Bush is out of office for good, he, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rice are all brought up on charges of criminal negligence in the handling of the Iraq war and have to pay reparations out of their own oil-money lined pockets to the families of all the troops who have been needlessly killed in this senseless war.
Warwick Hunt
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The Iraqi people are hardly united, they are very tribal and
the Muslim religion is also very sectarian with major differences
between Shia Muslims, Sunnis and other groups.
The country is at risk of civil war, and to be honest as soon as
we get an exit startegy together, the better.
the Muslim religion is also very sectarian with major differences
between Shia Muslims, Sunnis and other groups.
The country is at risk of civil war, and to be honest as soon as
we get an exit startegy together, the better.
heh @ white
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anyways, yes, we do need to get out of iraq. we need to make a deal of cease-fire in order to allow our troops time to get out and all that.
bush is a funny guy. he thinks he's doing the world a favor by attacking them, and at the same time, he is preaching peace, and performing actions that relate to his set of beliefs while in office. that portrays a bad picture of the united states. it is unfortunate that a country is measured up by its top office...
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anyways, yes, we do need to get out of iraq. we need to make a deal of cease-fire in order to allow our troops time to get out and all that.
bush is a funny guy. he thinks he's doing the world a favor by attacking them, and at the same time, he is preaching peace, and performing actions that relate to his set of beliefs while in office. that portrays a bad picture of the united states. it is unfortunate that a country is measured up by its top office...
White2000GT
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You're being way too generous, King of the L's.
majikstranger
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if we can manage to get rid of our ego's and our belief that we have to be better then other things to feel better, then we can get along.
hell we dont buy iranin oil , so we need not buy iraqi oil neither. i say we leave let un take control , them blow up there oil refineys and pipelines back to the stone age.i think we need to do a fly over iran and n korena bomb them and say we didnt do it .?
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