Forum Debate Standards

[Minor Axis]

Intelligent conversation incapsulated: "Yes it is!" "No, it's not!" "Is too!" "Is not!" "It's 20 million!" "Bogus!" "Do you have problems with reading comprehension or what?" "Fucking idiots!" "Hitler Youth, indoctrination!" "You LIE!#" "We don need no stink'n rules!" "My GOD a profusion of public speaking!" "He's close buds with known terrorists!" "The WHO lies!*" "Nationalization, socialization, rationed rationalization, instigation!! "He's a fern-in-er running our country!" "He's brainwashing our children the those who watch T.V.!" "Agree with me or you're an idiot!" "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!+" :nod:

We are adults. We can do better than this. But honestly this is just wishful thinking on my part. Nothing will change. Now let the accusations fly about whose fault it is! :ninja

#Rep Joe Wilson (and they made him apologize)
*but they play great music...
+Dr. Peter Venkmen

 

[Dana]

Some of us don't feel like writing a novel online while debating with folks that are obviously one sided. Why waste your words with someone who won't change their opinion? It's like talking to a brick wall.

 

[Lord Stanley]

Intelligent conversation incapsulated: "Yes it is!" "No, it's not!" "Is too!" "Is not!" "It's 20 million!" "Bogus!" "Do you have problems with reading comprehension or what?" "Fucking idiots!" "Hitler Youth, indoctrination!" "You LIE!" (Joe Wilson) "We don need no stink'n rules!" "Profusion of public speaking!" "The WHO lies!" (but they play great music...) "Nationalization, socialization, rationed, instigation!! "He's a fern-in-er running our country!" "Agree with me or you're an idiot!" "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!" :nod:


We are adults. We can do better than this. But honestly this is just wishful thinking on my part. Nothing will change. Now let the accusations fly about whose fault it is! :ninja

I could not spell any of the above - i am in the clear

 

[Minor Axis]

Some of us don't feel like writing a novel online while debating with folks that are obviously one sided. Why waste your words with someone who won't change their opinion? It's like talking to a brick wall.

Or in the words of Barney Frank, "a dining room table". These debates only sway the fence sitters.

I could not spell any of the above - i am in the clear

Forum members who reside outside of the U.S. rarely spout inflammatory statements and only when provoked.

 

[nova]

Intelligent conversation incapsulated: "Yes it is!" "No, it's not!" "Is too!" "Is not!" "It's 20 million!" "Bogus!" "Do you have problems with reading comprehension or what?" "Fucking idiots!" "Hitler Youth, indoctrination!" "You LIE!" (Joe Wilson) "We don need no stink'n rules!" "Profusion of public speaking!" "The WHO lies!" (but they play great music...) "Nationalization, socialization, rationed rationalization, instigation!! "He's a fern-in-er running our country!" "Agree with me or you're an idiot!" "Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!" :nod:


We are adults. We can do better than this. But honestly this is just wishful thinking on my part. Nothing will change. Now let the accusations fly about whose fault it is! :ninja

When the typical response from you towards long reasoned posts is short, flippant and completely ignores any and all evidence contained within, you have absolutely no room to talk about about the level of the conversation....

 

[Minor Axis]

When the typical response from you towards long reasoned posts is short, flippant and completely ignores any and all evidence contained within, you have absolutely no room to talk about about the level of the conversation....

As I said, let the accusations start. Thanks for being predictable! BTW, as evidenced by the multitude of responses, your "reasoning" is questionable, and it is daily.

 

[retro]

As I said, let the accusations start. Thanks for being predictable! BTW, as evidenced by the multitude of responses, your "reasoning" is questionable, and it is daily.

No, thank you for being predictable... you take a comment that is founded in fact, and dismiss it. While at the same time taking a shot at someone, sounds like someone needs to heed his own advice.

:willy_nilly:

 

[nova]

As I said, let the accusations start. Thanks for being predictable! BTW, as evidenced by the multitude of responses, your "reasoning" is questionable, and it is daily.

Then tell me, what exactly is so enlightening about this post

http://www.offtopicz.net/50406-obama-healthcare-debate-over-3.html#post1258399

other than "NYAAH I have another source" without addressing a single solitary bit of the base argument of data basis for comparisons...

Or maybe this one

http://www.offtopicz.net/50446-who-rushing-home-listen-president-obama-4.html#post1256666

absolutely ignoring ever bit of information in the post for an easy meaningless reply...

Or maybe these classic "you damn hypocrite conservatives" posts, the first specifically coming after me for being something I'm not

http://www.offtopicz.net/50446-who-rushing-home-listen-president-obama-2.html#post1256528

http://www.offtopicz.net/50446-who-rushing-home-listen-president-obama-2.html#post1256551

Or the "nyaah, you can't do basic math" post

http://www.offtopicz.net/49679-what-do-about-social-security.html#post1251948

Every single solitary time you're presented with a substantive argument, you run from it just as fast you can, either with flippant meaningless responses are just complete non-response.

 

[Minor Axis]

No, thank you for being predictable... you take a comment that is founded in fact, and dismiss it. While at the same time taking a shot at someone, sounds like someone needs to heed his own advice.

:willy_nilly:

Excuse me, but in this thread, you two are the ones taking shots at me. The content of my first post is right out of these forums, (my additions are annotated). A group of enlightened conservatives, of which you belong, are the ones who are consistently spouting inflammatory accusations in these forums.

http://www.offtopicz.net/49679-what-do-about-social-security.html#post1251948

This is an example of my flippant response? You never did tell me how long your Grandparents were on SS? BTW I put a response in that thread.

 

[BadBoy@TheWheel]

You ever heard the age old "You can lead a horse to water"I agree, I wish folks could debate on a higher level. But in what I've seen, Nova, Retro and Minor you have all done a pretty good job at keeping it within the confines of intellect.Idiots :24: j/k

 

[AnitaBeer]

You ever heard the age old "You can lead a horse to water"I agree, I wish folks could debate on a higher level. But in what I've seen, Nova, Retro and Minor you have all done a pretty good job at keeping it within the confines of intellect.Idiots :24: j/k

Don't lie! You aren't kidding. We all know it!

 

[retro]

Excuse me, but in this thread, you two are the ones taking shots at me, and it is absolutely predictable it would be you two. The content of my first post is right out of these forums, (my additions are annotated). A group of enlightened conservatives :sarcasm, of which you belong, are the ones who are consistently spouting inflammatory accusations in these forums.

Please tell me where I took a shot at you? I'd really like to know. I told you to heed your own advice and called you predictable. Would you also please get it right, I am not a "conservative", I am a Libertarian.

 

[Codrus]

Now let the accusations fly about whose fault it is! :ninja

i accept full blame and responsiblity for all of the silliness that has gone on.....Cod knows, if i wouldnt have given you guys free will we would not be having this or any other discusions.

so to make it up to you, im going to have a kid and let you people take out all of your agression on him...beat him mash him , put him on a stick...i dont care,.......but dont blame me from here on out for your stupid mistakes.......:ninja

 

[Peter Parka]

I accept responsibility. I should never have quoted from evil, biased, Socialist websites like the world health organisation.:24::surrender

 

[Minor Axis]

Please tell me where I took a shot at you? I'd really like to know. I told you to heed your own advice and called you predictable. Would you also please get it right, I am not a "conservative", I am a Libertarian.

You guys look and sound the same as a conservative to me, sorry. Your anti-labor, anti-social, anti-government, don't tax me, don't bother me with your rules, and you promote unregulated capitalism. I don't want you to response with a page of retort. But if you feel like it, what would you say the primary difference is between a conservative and a libertarian?

Both you and nova are taking issues with the premise of my original statement- "we can do better". Now from my understanding of the English language "we" includes me or I would have said "you".

And you said 2 posts ago that I take facts and dismiss them. Not a shot? I've argued back that the facts described by nova are debatable, as in they may not be facts. He posts a chart, ("oh my chart is pure") so I post a chart ("your chart is dismissed"). When dealing with ideologues and I admit, I am one too, it is really not worth putting a lot of effort into these posts. They require a lot of work, and for the most part, prove nothing except for your fervency.

As I said previously, these posts mostly influence the undecided.

 

[Minor Axis]

i accept full blame and responsiblity for all of the silliness that has gone on.....Cod knows, if i wouldnt have given you guys free will we would not be having this or any other discusions.

so to make it up to you, im going to have a kid and let you people take out all of your agression on him...beat him mash him , put him on a stick...i dont care,.......but dont blame me from here on out for your stupid mistakes.......:ninja

Finally someone steps up and takes responsibility! I've been waiting.

 

[Codrus]

Your anti-social.

YouTube - Anthrax-Anti-social

 

[retro]

You guys look and sound the same as a conservative to me, sorry. Your anti-labor, anti-social, anti-government, don't tax me, don't bother me with your rules, and you promote unregulated capitalism. I don't want you to response with a page of retort. But if you feel like it, what would you say the primary difference is between a conservative and a libertarian?

Both you and nova are taking issues with the premise of my original statement- "we can do better". Now from my understanding of the English language "we" includes me or I would have said "you".

And you said 2 posts ago that I take facts and dismiss them. Not a shot? I've argued back that the facts described by nova are debatable, as in they may not be facts. He posts a chart, ("oh my chart is pure") so I post a chart ("your chart is dismissed"). When dealing with ideologues and I admit, I am one too, it is really not worth putting a lot of effort into these posts. They require a lot of work, and for the most part, prove nothing except for your fervency.

As I said previously, these posts mostly influence the undecided.

Okay, then I think I'm going to start calling you a communist? Sound good? You're for expanded government, social programs, regulation of industry, higher taxes, re-distribution of wealth, etc. You look and sound the same as a communist to me because of that.

Do you see how ridiculous that statement is? I take issue with you lumping me in with extreme right-wing bible thumpers, GWB, et al; as I'm sure you take issue with my lumping you in with Stalin and Mao. I'm fiscally conservative, and socially liberal. I support legalization of drugs and prostitution, the implementation of the FairTax system, I'm a non-interventionist, I take extreme issue with the Patriot Act and other blatant violations of the Constitution. I hated what GWB did to the country just as I'm hating what Obama is doing now. The fact that I'm not an Obama supporter doesn't mean that I'm a republican, as you've accused me of being because I disagree with the direction we're going right now. I'm for state's rights and against big government. I support the Constitution and all of the powers it grants the Federal Government, along with all of the restrictions it places on it. I don't think that any of those things would qualify me as a "conservative" as it is typically defined today.

Yes, I accused you of dismissing facts... not a shot, the truth. It is a fact that, at least as near as I can tell, when you are presented with facts or an argument that doesn't agree with yours, you run away and make a flippant remark or summarily dismiss what is being said because it doesn't agree with your viewpoint.

 

[nova]

This is an example of my flippant response? You never did tell me how long your Grandparents were on SS? BTW I put a response in that thread.

How long doesn't fucking matter. Its just another stupid tangent you decide to go on thats totally meaningless in the context of the core issue.

On a month by month basis they're taking out less than they put in. They worked for 45years each and retired at 65. Simple math will tell you that unless they live to be 110, they'll take out less overall...

I accept responsibility. I should never have quoted from evil, biased, Socialist websites like the world health organisation.:24::surrender

And the fact that, despite a direct link and quote from the study about the study methodology, excerpts of the actual contents and an similar blatant fatecious example, you refuse to admit the conclusion you're drawing from it is invalid. That really is telling about your ability to critically examine data.

"Well boys, 1 is higher than 10, so #1 must be better, regardless of how the rankings are generated"

Beg beg beg that question boyo...

 

[Minor Axis]

How long doesn't fucking matter. Its just another stupid tangent you decide to go on thats totally meaningless in the context of the core issue.

It's doesn't matter? Stupid, meaningless?

On a month by month basis they're taking out less than they put in. They worked for 45years each and retired at 65. Simple math will tell you that unless they live to be 110, they'll take out less overall...

Why don't you post some numbers... and you need to get your quotes straight.