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What would you think??

Your spouse of 20 years has had an anger problem most of your relationship but nothing “over the top” just losing his temper from time to time unnecessarily. In the last few years some of things that were said didn’t make sense, way out of character and he would say he didn’t remember doing it. One year ago – in a heated discussion – things got out of control, her parents came to the house and got involved. Words were exchanged that were horrible between her father and the spouse. The spouse was asked to leave for a couple of days until things settled a bit. He ended up not remembering anything that was said or that happened for almost the entire day. He chose to go to a psychiatrist and was diagnosed as Bi-polar with depression. Seemed when he would cycle he would sometimes black out and that is when these angry episodes were occur so he genuinely didn’t have any recollection of what he had done/said. The parents will now have nothing to do with this person at all after that day and have told the daughter that as long as she is with him, they will have nothing to do with them as a couple. Their 17 year old son moved out to her parents house and has not spoken a word to his father since and barely speaks to his mother. He is not allowed at their house and they expect the daughter to come visit without him and to come for holidays without him, etc. The parents will not encourage the son to have a relationship with his father at all and they refuse to go to any counseling or talk to this couple at all about the situation. Despite the husbands apologizes and offering of information and education on what he is dealing with. This poor woman is in the middle of all these family members and mess and has chosen to support her husband. He is good to her and treats her well. She also understands this is a legitimate mental illness and with treatment he is fine. Tell me is she wrong for sticking with her husband? How would you handle having your family push you aside because you aren’t doing what they think you should do? They do not believe in Bi polar – her father told her it was just his excuse to act the way he did.


I tried to summarize this in a few paragraphs so I hope you can make some sense of it. I'm very interested to get some other's opinions on this situation because it just seems so unfair to me they way the couple is being treated and also for their son to have just basically turned his back on them like that. Anyway feel free to ask questions if you need more info and I will try to answer the best I can.
 
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DuhhhBlond

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the family members, they can't get over the hurt & won't accept excuses

the spouse, good that he is taking steps to better himself.. is he taking medication

my son & I are both diagnosed with bipolar/manic depression, and we deal with it and educate ourselves on it
I suspect Click Fro sometimes too

the biggest step in dealing with a mental illness is realizing what it is
and trying steps to control it
without making excuses for it eveyrtime you do something undesirable
 

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Do you think that just because someone said some things when not in their right mind ONE time warrents this behavior from the family? Don't you think they should at least try to understand the situation. It's not as though this happened multiple times and he has been a part of the family for 20 years.

Yes he is taking medication.
 

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HE is also going to therapy individually as well as marriage counseling with the spouse. I just know she is hurting so much from having her family treat them this way. She doesn't think it's okay what happened but feels they should be supporting her a little and accepting that she is not going to throw her husband to the curb after 20 years just because he had a bad day and said some things he shouldn't have. I just don't think it's fair and the loss they are feeling from their son being gone....and he is living with the people who think it's okay to just turn your back on people when they have a problem. You have that choice if it's a friend or an acquaintence...I just don't believe you should take that option when it's your family.
 

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she has certainly stuck by her man through ALOT all these years

and it seems like he is really trying with all the counseling

things will probably fall into place and work out with everyone

just give it time
 

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i think they're being way too harsh about this. they are not helping and are only hurting the situation by acting this way.

life is short and its really too short to be acting this way towards family.
 

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If I were her, I'd stick by my man and hope my family wakes the fuck up sooner or later. If not, their loss.

As for her son, I'd like to think time will heal that wound too.... Perhaps if her parents wake up, they'll realize they should try to point her son in the direction of reconciliation w/his dad....
 

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That's like saying they don't believe in rain.


I know and I also know that a letter was offered to the parents that the psychiatrist had written and her dad refused it. Wouldn't even look at it.





If I were her, I'd stick by my man and hope my family wakes the fuck up sooner or later. If not, their loss.

As for her son, I'd like to think time will heal that wound too.... Perhaps if her parents wake up, they'll realize they should try to point her son in the direction of reconciliation w/his dad....


That's how I feel too Moon.
 

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What would you think??

Your spouse of 20 years has had an anger problem most of your relationship but nothing “over the top” just losing his temper from time to time unnecessarily. In the last few years some of things that were said didn’t make sense, way out of character and he would say he didn’t remember doing it. One year ago – in a heated discussion – things got out of control, her parents came to the house and got involved. Words were exchanged that were horrible between her father and the spouse. The spouse was asked to leave for a couple of days until things settled a bit. He ended up not remembering anything that was said or that happened for almost the entire day. He chose to go to a psychiatrist and was diagnosed as Bi-polar with depression. Seemed when he would cycle he would sometimes black out and that is when these angry episodes were occur so he genuinely didn’t have any recollection of what he had done/said. The parents will now have nothing to do with this person at all after that day and have told the daughter that as long as she is with him, they will have nothing to do with them as a couple. Their 17 year old son moved out to her parents house and has not spoken a word to his father since and barely speaks to his mother. He is not allowed at their house and they expect the daughter to come visit without him and to come for holidays without him, etc. The parents will not encourage the son to have a relationship with his father at all and they refuse to go to any counseling or talk to this couple at all about the situation. Despite the husbands apologizes and offering of information and education on what he is dealing with. This poor woman is in the middle of all these family members and mess and has chosen to support her husband. He is good to her and treats her well. She also understands this is a legitimate mental illness and with treatment he is fine. Tell me is she wrong for sticking with her husband? How would you handle having your family push you aside because you aren’t doing what they think you should do? They do not believe in Bi polar – her father told her it was just his excuse to act the way he did.


I tried to summarize this in a few paragraphs so I hope you can make some sense of it. I'm very interested to get some other's opinions on this situation because it just seems so unfair to me they way the couple is being treated and also for their son to have just basically turned his back on them like that. Anyway feel free to ask questions if you need more info and I will try to answer the best I can.

Wow! Her father sounds like a thick, dick head. Better off without him.
 

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I'm torn between just telling you what you obviously want to hear, based on the way you word your posts - and what my gut instinct is picking up here.

This wasn't a one time event, you said so yourself - has had an anger problem most of your relationship but nothing “over the top” just losing his temper from time to time unnecessarily. In the last few years some of things that were said didn’t make sense, way out of character and he would say he didn’t remember doing it. -you simply excused it as the first time things got out of control.

What you have here are parents and a child who have witnessed this for 20 years and probably for 20 years listened to the excuses made on his behalf after the fact. That the child moved out rather then stay in the situation indicates something is up. That the parents were pulled into whatever went on a year ago, indicates they were not new to the behavior.

I think he should have stayed outside the home, gotten therapy and worked to prove himself rather then get a free pass again. The biggest issue I'm having is that he has apparently turned this into a 'poor him' situation.

That's my 2 cents - but then again, I don't know him, his family, his doctor or anything else.
 

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A one time event being that he hadn't ever lost his head around or with the parents before and they were not privy to all the things that went on without them. And the parents lives an hour and a half away so they are not close. To their knowledge there wasn't really that many problems outside of the normal marriage crap. It had never reached the magnitude of that day, ever. No, it's not a poor him situation, he is fully aware of what he has done wrong and lives with that guilt daily. My biggest issue is that a family should be a family and love and support your kids if they need it. You don't just ban someone from the family for having a mental issue. I could see it if he never bothered to recognize there was a problem and seek help but this situation is not fair to ANYONE...the daughter, the grandchildren involved or otherwise. I just don't get how any parent has the ability to just shut off their care and concern for a child or to turn their back when they obviously need them most. I also don't get telling your daughter - I will have nothing to do with you if you chose to maintain this marriage - we will not accept your relationship. She's almost 40 - not 5. I guess I"m just a pushover because I could never treat my children that way, no matter what. I could never be so selfish as to say if you don't do what I want, I will not be a part of your life.


Don't be torn to give your opinion - that's what I am asking for. There is going to be more than one opinion :)
 
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