Dr. Boyce: If Someone’s Falsely Accused of Rape, All Liars Should be in Prison

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Dana

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A friend posted this article on Facebook....

There’s nothing like using Facebook to say “I’m sorry for sending you to prison after falsely accusing you of kidnap and rape.”

That’s what happened to Brian Banks, after his accuser friended him on Facebook hoping that he could “let bygones be bygones” on a false rape and kidnapping conviction back in 2002.

After reading this story, I was infuriated. I was angry for Mr. Banks, who was in tears in the courtroom, reflecting on only God-knows-what happened to him after being sent to prison at a young age. He was a football star on his way to play college sports at the highest level when the non-incident took place. Wanetta Gibson (the accuser) ruined Brian’s life, and the system aided and abetted her in a quest to destroy this young man’s future.

Every perpetrator of this crime against justice deserves to be punished, starting with Banks’ accuser. There is word that Wanetta is going to be asked to repay the $1.5 million she was paid by the school district for what she claimed to have happened to her, but her repayment should go far beyond money. She should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, and deserves a prison sentence no less severe than the time that was going to be given to Mr. Banks when the state chose to believe that he was a rapist.

The second person to pay for what happened to Mr. Banks should be the attorney, judge and prosecutors who coerced him into taking a plea deal. Mr. Banks was told that if he continued to hold on to his “illusion” of innocence and actually fight for his right to a fair trial, he could face up to 41 years. This kind of threat is similar to what was done during the Salem Witch Trials and the Spanish Inquisition, where anyone who proclaimed their innocence was tortured until they admitted guilt. This kind of coercive and unjust bargaining should be disallowed in the justice system altogether.

Finally, Mr. Banks deserves to be financially compensated. No amount of money can make up for what he lost, but about $10 million dollars should help ease the pain at least a little bit. There was no physical evidence whatsoever that Banks committed this rape, so there was no justification for any judge or prosecutor to consider sending him to prison. In that regard, those involved in the decision to destroy this young man’s life should be sent to the very same prison that they were willing to send an innocent human being.

The story of Brian Banks is, unfortunately quite common, particularly among young black males. It has even happened in my own family and the scenario is usually the same: Someone gets into trouble and can’t afford a good attorney. The overworked public defender, without seriously considering the evidence, tries to get the defendant to take a plea deal. Even if he is actually innocent and fights for their right to a fair trial, the defendant is then told that not succumbing to jail or prison time will result in a much harsher sentence. The person doesn’t go to prison because they are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt; they are incarcerated because public officials are too lazy to actually carry out their commitment to pursuing justice.

As a result of this farcical form of justice being administered all throughout America, millions of black men can’t get jobs and black families have been destroyed to no end. Politicians in Washington are asking black folks to march for gay marriage and immigration, but say almost nothing about the fact that our fathers, sons and brothers are being sent away to capitalist-funded modern day, concentration camps. This is nothing short of a true holocaust, and the broken families, violence and devastation around us serve as evidence that the impact is both deep and permanent.

What’s saddest about the story of Brian Banks is that he was one of the lucky ones. His accuser was silly enough to confess to her lie on record, and someone cared enough to investigate the situation further. But for every Brian Banks that is exonerated, there are 1,000 other innocent citizens who sit behind bars, away from the people they love. They were never given a fair trial and no one will ever take up their case. These stories will never be told.

Dr. Boyce Watkins is a Professor at Syracuse University and author of the forthcoming book, “The RAPP Sheet: Rising Above Psychological Poison.” To have Dr. Boyce commentary delivered to your email, please click here.

http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/...ccused-of-rape-all-liars-should-be-in-prison/

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Natasha

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I agree that people who lie about crimes need to be charged w/ a crime and punished severely. HOWEVER...I don't agree w/ punishing lawyers who convince a client to take a plea deal. I'm sorry, but I know that if I was accused of a crime I didn't commit, I wouldn't even consider taking a plea deal.

What happened to this man was absolutely horrible and there's no way they can give him back all that he lost. I hope that he is able to find some sort of normal life again and come to grips w/ the life he lost as a result of her lies.
 

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I agree that people who lie about crimes need to be charged w/ a crime and punished severely. HOWEVER...I don't agree w/ punishing lawyers who convince a client to take a plea deal. I'm sorry, but I know that if I was accused of a crime I didn't commit, I wouldn't even consider taking a plea deal.

What happened to this man was absolutely horrible and there's no way they can give him back all that he lost. I hope that he is able to find some sort of normal life again and come to grips w/ the life he lost as a result of her lies.

Yea, I wouldn't punish the lawyers either.

But I can see how even an innocent person can easily be swayed by a plea bargain just because spending a fraction of time behind bars rather than the majority of the rest of your life would be cutting back your losses.
 

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Yea, I wouldn't punish the lawyers either.

But I can see how even an innocent person can easily be swayed by a plea bargain just because spending a fraction of time behind bars rather than the majority of the rest of your life would be cutting back your losses.

Oh absolutely, I can see how people agree to take pleas when it looks like they've been caught dead to rights, even if they're innocent. I have more faith in the judicial system than most and I have serious issues w/ being accused of things I didn't do. I don't doubt that there are wrongfully convicted people in prison, of course, but I don't think the numbers are nearly as high as some people assert.
 

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Oh absolutely, I can see how people agree to take pleas when it looks like they've been caught dead to rights, even if they're innocent. I have more faith in the judicial system than most and I have serious issues w/ being accused of things I didn't do. I don't doubt that there are wrongfully convicted people in prison, of course, but I don't think the numbers are nearly as high as some people assert.

Agreed.
 

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A friend posted this article on Facebook....



http://www.yourblackworld.net/2012/...ccused-of-rape-all-liars-should-be-in-prison/

Thought this would be a good discussion...

No offense, but it would be a better discussion if the OP expressed their opinion along with the first post. :)

Personally I find it highly troubling and illustrative of the double standard in sexual relations. This is one of the reasons why women have been known to be scrutinized in some cases unfairly when making a rape charge.
 

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No offense, but it would be a better discussion if the OP expressed their opinion along with the first post. :)

Personally I find it highly troubling and illustrative of the double standard in sexual relations. This is one of the reasons why women have been known to be scrutinized in some cases unfairly when making a rape charge.
Yes the accuser should be held liable for her action.
 

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The whole bit about punishing the people who convinced him to take a pleas bargain seems unfair. If they knew he was probably going to lose and face a much harsher sentence, isn't a plea bargain the best way forwards, innocent or not?


It's all very well that he shouldn't have had to take a plea bargain at all. But his lawyer obviously didn't think he was going to go free, regardless of whether he did it or not. I suppose it depends whether you'd rather admit to something you didn't do, or spend however many more years in prison.
 

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This man was lucky...although it is terrible this happened...there are untold numbers of people who just sit there doing time who are innocent.
Life for the cunt..she has no business interacting with society at any level.
 

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What I see as completely fucked up in the United States is that often the simple accusation of sexual misconduct by a female against a male = conviction almost automatically.

Years ago out here in Oklahoma, two teenaged, minor girls accused a gym teacher, falsely as it turned out, of sexual misconduct with them. Zero proof whatsoever, but this is what happened to him:

1. Fired from his teaching job.

2. State revoked his teaching certificate.

3. He went bankrupt defending himself.

4. Wife left him and took kids to another state.

5. Convicted by a jury. (Zero physical evidence - so much for the concept of reasonable doubt)

6. Appealed conviction and kept fighting the charges.

7. Lost home to forclosure after using all equity to pay lawyers.

A few years later both girls admittied they lied to create a distraction because they were in trouble with their parents for their own poor conduct.

8. Conviction overturned.

9. State of Oklahoma still refuses to reinstate teaching certificate.

10. State of Oklahoma in no hurry to clear up all sex offender records.

This mans life is ruined. So who should pay restitution for ruining this mans life?

Anyone who puts "faith" in our legal system is a fool. They (those that operate the sysyem) don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. Once you get inducted into the system, it will grind you into powder, innocent or not. The fact is that the low paying justice system jobs seldom attract the best and brightest society has to offer. Prosecutors want to get reelected and will twist evidence to get more convictions if necessary. Add in the privatization of many of our state prison systems and corruption is becoming rampant when imprisonment is for corporate profit.

It's no wonder so many innocent people take plea deals.

The best thing anyone can do is avoid getting pulled into the system altogether - don't even think you'll get anything remotely resembling fairness - innocent or not.

Yes, I am absolutely cynical toward the American justice system.
 

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What I see as completely fucked up in the United States is that often the simple accusation of sexual misconduct by a female against a male = conviction almost automatically.

Years ago out here in Oklahoma, two teenaged, minor girls accused a gym teacher, falsely as it turned out, of sexual misconduct with them. Zero proof whatsoever, but this is what happened to him:

1. Fired from his teaching job.

2. State revoked his teaching certificate.

3. He went bankrupt defending himself.

4. Wife left him and took kids to another state.

5. Convicted by a jury. (Zero physical evidence - so much for the concept of reasonable doubt)

6. Appealed conviction and kept fighting the charges.

7. Lost home to forclosure after using all equity to pay lawyers.

A few years later both girls admittied they lied to create a distraction because they were in trouble with their parents for their own poor conduct.

8. Conviction overturned.

9. State of Oklahoma still refuses to reinstate teaching certificate.

10. State of Oklahoma in no hurry to clear up all sex offender records.

This mans life is ruined. So who should pay restitution for ruining this mans life?

Anyone who puts "faith" in our legal system is a fool. They (those that operate the sysyem) don't give a fuck about anyone but themselves. Once you get inducted into the system, it will grind you into powder, innocent or not. The fact is that the low paying justice system jobs seldom attract the best and brightest society has to offer. Prosecutors want to get reelected and will twist evidence to get more convictions if necessary. Add in the privatization of many of our state prison systems and corruption is becoming rampant when imprisonment is for corporate profit.

It's no wonder so many innocent people take plea deals.

The best thing anyone can do is avoid getting pulled into the system altogether - don't even think you'll get anything remotely resembling fairness - innocent or not.

Yes, I am absolutely cynical toward the American justice system.

Excellent post John.
The man can never get his life back...and in the event they decided to give millions {which they wont} ...they cant change that turn they put on his destiny.
Couple more cunts that need to be hung...thing is if we start hanging cunts they they will stop coming forward.
 

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I don't believe the lawyers etc should be punished either. They are doing a job, even if it is one that people don't agree with. I think that everyone should have access, if they want, to a legal team to fight their case - even if they are accused of an horrific crime or are a liar.


In the Uk there have been prosecutions against women who lie about rape (including one woman who reported a real rape by a husband who beat her, but retracted it and was jailed for false retractment as it was ruled she was perverting the course of justice). I agree wholeheartedly with jailing women who are proved to lie about rape.

Women who lie about rape destroy the life of the man they accuse (even after it has been proved she lied because many people hold the "there's no smoke without fire" train of thought) but they also affect real victims of rape who are branded liars (like some of the comments about the woman was raped by the footballer Chad Evans. It's sickening to see his facebook support page, where there are many people calling her a liar and slag. It's hard enough to get a rape conviction in the UK, so there must have been quite a bit of evidence to get him jailed) or are too scared to come forward because they think they'll be told they are liars.
 

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Excellent post John.
The man can never get his life back...and in the event they decided to give millions {which they wont} ...they cant change that turn they put on his destiny.
Couple more cunts that need to be hung...thing is if we start hanging cunts they they will stop coming forward.

But you could say that about any crime. If there's strong evidence that the accusers are lying or they admit to it, then they need to be held accountable. Of course, they should be given a fair trial and such just as any other criminal.

Part of the crux of the problem in my opinion? That trials have a crazy high conviction rate, something like 90% if I remember correctly. So you're pretty much fucked from the beginning if you meet the criminal justice system.
 

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But you could say that about any crime. If there's strong evidence that the accusers are lying or they admit to it, then they need to be held accountable. Of course, they should be given a fair trial and such just as any other criminal.

Part of the crux of the problem in my opinion? That trials have a crazy high conviction rate, something like 90% if I remember correctly. So you're pretty much fucked from the beginning if you meet the criminal justice system.
Hang all false accusers {very lengthy sentences }...triple time of what the accusation carried.
I agree...once meeting the criminal judicial system you are screwed... their game their rules..a conviction is more important than the truth.
Not everywhere of course,but it is far to common.
 

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But you could say that about any crime.


True, but sexual assualt - especially where a minor child is the accuser - has become the "sacred" crime where men are assumed guilty and must prove their innocence (Forget the concept of innocent until proven guilty). I can't think of any other crime where less evidence is accepted for conviction.
 

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True, but sexual assualt - especially where a minor child is the accuser - has become the "sacred" crime where men are assumed guilty and must prove their innocence (Forget the concept of innocent until proven guilty). I can't think of any other crime where less evidence is accepted for conviction.

I should have specified. The part of TM's post I was reffering to was:

Excellent post John.
The man can never get his life back...and in the event they decided to give millions {which they wont} ...they cant change that turn they put on his destiny.
Couple more cunts that need to be hung...thing is if we start hanging cunts they they will stop coming forward.

Essentially with any crime, accusers may feel scared that they'll be perceived as liars. But that shouldn't be a deterrent to punishing those who do lie.
 
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