Does being under supernatural control exonerate Eve of any sin?

[Greatest I am]

Does being under supernatural control exonerate Eve of any sin?


Eve was unjustly punished because she was under supernatural control in a set of circumstances that God himself set up by putting Satan in Eden.


God put Satan in Eden to insure that Eve ate and gave him the power to deceive Eve. She could not resist God's power directed through Satan and thus Eve had no choice but to eat of the tree of knowledge. She, like the snake, were under supernatural control and thus innocent of any wrong-doing.


Eve fails the criteria of mens rea, Latin for evil intent,a fundamental requirement of secular and biblical law, and thus Eve was innocent of any wrong-doing.


No human judge in his right mind would have judged A & E the way God did as God set the conditions that insured that A & E also died from neglect and the locking away of the tree of life. That was murder.


Does being under supernatural control exonerate Eve of any sin?


Did Eve have a free will while under supernatural control?


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DL

 

[The Man]

Choices are choices...while some are innocent ...however knowingly doing wrong is not innocently committing an act.

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[Catavenger]

Eve wasn't under "supernatural control" Satan didn't force her to do anything she had freewill.

 

[Catavenger]

http://community.beliefnet.com/greatest_i_am TROLL you ARE you get around and cause B.S. all over the internet.


http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?97294-Greatest-I-am


Sure not the 1st time I've seen the Snake Dude around

 

[Greatest I am]

Choices are choices...while some are innocent ...however knowingly doing wrong is not innocently committing an act.

I agree.

Can you be knowingly doing wrong when you do not know what right or wrong or good and evil are?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

http://community.beliefnet.com/greatest_i_am TROLL you ARE you get around and cause B.S. all over the internet.


http://www.sciforums.com/member.php?97294-Greatest-I-am


Sure not the 1st time I've seen the Snake Dude around

Some are against free speech and free associating I see.

Are you a North Korean?

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DL

 

[The Man]

I agree.

Can you be knowingly doing wrong when you do not know what right or wrong or good and evil are?

Regards
DL

You wouldnt if you did not know.
Same for a toddler locking you out of your car.
However Eve was aware yes?

 

[Greatest I am]

You wouldnt if you did not know.
Same for a toddler locking you out of your car.
However Eve was aware yes?

Aware of being innocent enough to not know she was naked.

So to your thinking Eve knew good and evil before having access to the knowledge of good and evil.

Thanks for the eh, intelligent reply and sound logic. Not.

Regards
DL

 

[The Man]

Aware of being innocent enough to not know she was naked.

So to your thinking Eve knew good and evil before having access to the knowledge of good and evil.

Thanks for the eh, intelligent reply and sound logic. Not.

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DL

So you are saying she was without any knowledge before the tree?

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[CaptainTopcat]

Freedom of speech means I have the right to state my opinion that I think you are a Troll - snakey dude

 

[Greatest I am]

So you are saying she was without any knowledge before the tree?

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Sigh.

If she had the knowledge of good and evil then God would not have been telling her not to eat of it now would he?

That sigh was for your little stupid trap.

If that is how you want to play, go away. I have no time for childish games.

Regards
DL

 

[The Man]

Sigh.

If she had the knowledge of good and evil then God would not have been telling her not to eat of it now would he?

That sigh was for your little stupid trap.

If that is how you want to play, go away. I have no time for childish games.

Regards
DL

You have just stated that god gave her the knowledge to not eat it before the act
But try to claim she did not have knowledge.
Try again.
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[CaptainTopcat]

Eve was made GOOD so the only knowledge that she gained by disobeying God was the knowledge of evil.

 

[Greatest I am]

Eve was made GOOD so the only knowledge that she gained by disobeying God was the knowledge of evil.

Ok. The scribes lied when they showed the duality of good and evil and called it the tree of good and evil. You are of course right. It was the tree of evil.

They all got it wrong.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

You have just stated that god gave her the knowledge to not eat it before the act
But try to claim she did not have knowledge.
Try again.
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Eh, no, but ok.

I feel an explanation would just get me the same. Looks like we are done here.

Regards
DL

 

[CaptainTopcat]

It was the tree of "good & evil" good if they obeyed God & did not eat of the allegorical fruit evil if they did.

 

[Greatest I am]

It was the tree of "good & evil" good if they obeyed God & did not eat of the allegorical fruit evil if they did.

What is evil about becoming as Gods and having ones eyes opened?

Do you think man is better with his eyes closed and as bright as a brick?

That was the option.

Regards
DL

 

[The Man]

Eh, no, but ok.

I feel an explanation would just get me the same. Looks like we are done here.

Regards
DL

You claim she was without the knowledge. .but you also post that god her the knowledge prior to the act.
Had she not been given instruction you may have a plausible argument...however you have already destroyed your own argument...in very short order I might add

 

[The Man]

What is evil about becoming as Gods and having ones eyes opened?

Do you think man is better with his eyes closed and as bright as a brick?


That was the option.

Regards
DL

Its your position you tell us.

 

[Greatest I am]

You claim she was without the knowledge. .but you also post that god her the knowledge prior to the act.
Had she not been given instruction you may have a plausible argument...however you have already destroyed your own argument...in very short order I might add

That is because I did not do -----

"but you also post that god her the knowledge prior to the act.".

If you think so, get the quote.

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DL