Do you sin against God or man?

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Do you sin against God or man?

I saw this video and did not agree with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKwWZ2no8tk&feature=channel_page

If I sin, I think I sin against another human. Not against God. Against his law of course, or to be more specific, against the laws that men have attributed to God, but not against God.

This clip ignores the human victim altogether as if the victim has no right to feel offended and also have no responsibility to forgive the offender.

I find it rather droll that we are supposed to see God as the victim of all our sins.

If you were to visualize, for instance, God being the victim of all Gay sins, well you see what I mean.
Rather a startling picture right?

Sin also brings up the topic of forgiveness.

If you or I forgive a sin done against us, is there any reason for the sinner to kowtow to God for more forgiveness?

The sin, once forgiven by you or I is, well, forgiven. What exactly is God forgiving. The sin has been annulled by our forgiveness so God forgiving it is rather superfluous and in reality, if at the pearly gates, God were to seek to punish a forgiven sin then one could make a case that God is unjust.

Is God sticking his nose where it is not required in the case of saying we sin against him and in our seeking forgiveness for a forgiven sin?

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It depends. I mean let's say I assaulted someone and put them in hospital, that's a sin against them. But if thery chose to press charges it's because they felt I committed a sin against them, or broke the law to simplify it. Then of course the laws come into play, and by assaulting someone and with the laws on assault that have been established then I have broke that law. It could be attributed to a few things I think.
 

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I say man, mostly as anything I consider sinful hurts another human being either directly or indirectly. Only thing that may not be a sin against man is something that hurts animals. I very much doubt the existence of a god to sin against and even if there is one, I cant see how anything I could do could possibly hurt it.
 

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It depends. I mean let's say I assaulted someone and put them in hospital, that's a sin against them. But if thery chose to press charges it's because they felt I committed a sin against them, or broke the law to simplify it. Then of course the laws come into play, and by assaulting someone and with the laws on assault that have been established then I have broke that law. It could be attributed to a few things I think.

Understood.

If that assaulted person decides to forgive you thought before the trial date, you do know that the crown would just back off.

The way God is said to work, he will not and will demand punishment even though your sin has been forgiven by yoyr victim. See the difference.

Who has the better system? Man or God?
I would say man because he caters to the victims wants and needs while God is concerned with his own.

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A kitten dies everytime i masturbate

Stop using kittens to masturbate fool. That is expensive.

This is better according to Bible God.

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I say man, mostly as anything I consider sinful hurts another human being either directly or indirectly. Only thing that may not be a sin against man is something that hurts animals. I very much doubt the existence of a god to sin against and even if there is one, I cant see how anything I could do could possibly hurt it.

I agree and did not include anything in my thinking here that applies to animals and children who we as adults usually speak for until they are ready to make informed decisions. We do have something called depravity that we will just not tolerate.

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Religious people would say it is a sin against God to not practice their religion. But there's nothing wrong with not practicing their religion. They just call it wrong because they're trying to control others. For an action to be wrong it must harm a human or animal. You can't harm God assuming he even exists.
 

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Religious people would say it is a sin against God to not practice their religion. But there's nothing wrong with not practicing their religion. They just call it wrong because they're trying to control others. For an action to be wrong it must harm a human or animal. You can't harm God assuming he even exists.

Exactly.

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