Difference between Popular Religious and Supernatural beliefs?

[Minor Axis]

IT's been a while since I started a religious thread, and who cares if it's been discussed all ready 1000s of times? What separates religion from the supernatural and old wives tales? I don't see any substantial difference. This is not to say I don't have spiritual feelings, I do. I just don't know what to make of and how to assign those feelings with any certainty. Maybe those who have been enlightened can show me the path.

 

[Johnfromokc]

What separates religion from the supernatural and old wives tales? I don't see any substantial difference.

You can't see any difference because there is none.

 

[doombug]

Non-believers seem even more delusional so it must be a human thing.

 

[JuggsBunny]

Non-believers seem even more delusional so it must be a human thing.

This is utterly hilarious!!!!

I don't know how you can call a non-believer "delusional"... I'm not the one believing in a burning bush that talks, someone walking out of a cave after being dead for three days, or only thinking that the earth is 6000 years old.

And if "god" made Adam, why is Adam depicted as always having a belly button??? And that's just the CHRISTIAN mythology!!!!

Non-believers delusional... :24: That's a good one!!

 

[Dana]

Umm, because you're not following a certain religion... Duh... Religion is a mas cult like following. Supernatural beliefs doesn't have to play into religion.

 

[Minor Axis]

Non-believers seem even more delusional so it must be a human thing.

LOL. Wait-a-minute, are you saying your are delusional along with the rest of us, or are you are one of the few who is not delusional? It's a human thing as compared to say a squirrel thing? Thanks for the reveal.

BTW, I don't want the discussion to get too negative. I sincerely wish you the very best over this Christmas Season.

 

[doombug]

LOL. Wait-a-minute, are you saying your are delusional along with the rest of us, or are you are one of the few who is not delusional? It's a human thing as compared to say a squirrel thing? Thanks for the reveal.

BTW, I don't want the discussion to get too negative. I sincerely wish you the very best over this Christmas Season.

Where did I say I was delusional? You must have imagined it which proves you are delusional.

 

[Francis]

LOL. Wait-a-minute, are you saying your are delusional along with the rest of us, or are you are one of the few who is not delusional? It's a human thing as compared to say a squirrel thing? Thanks for the reveal.

BTW, I don't want the discussion to get too negative. I sincerely wish you the very best over this Christmas Season.

Where did I say I was delusional? You must have imagined it which proves you are delusional.

Where did Minor say you were delusional.. He asked if you were or were not ? Simple yes or no answer.

 

[Francis]

IT's been a while since I started a religious thread, and who cares if it's been discussed all ready 1000s of times? What separates religion from the supernatural and old wives tales? I don't see any substantial difference. This is not to say I don't have spiritual feelings, I do. I just don't know what to make of and how to assign those feelings with any certainty. Maybe those who have been enlightened can show me the path.

Sorry Minor, I meant to answer this the other day.. Kids and all I did not get to it..

I think leaving out the possibility is leaves an option that is far from being open minded..

 

[Panacea]

I think the only difference between religious, supernatural, and "old wive's" stories is power social groups tie to them.

 

[BornReady]

God is supernatural. When someone can't explain something I can think of three reactions. Say God did it which is supernatural. Say some unnatural mysterious thing caused it which is paranormal. Say I don't know which is correct.

 

[alice in chains]

Umm, because you're not following a certain religion... Duh... Religion is a mas cult like following. Supernatural beliefs doesn't have to play into religion.

Does this dude's thought process ever go beyond 1+1???

 

[alice in chains]

God is supernatural. When someone can't explain something I can think of three reactions. Say God did it which is supernatural. Say some unnatural mysterious thing caused it which is paranormal. Say I don't know which is correct.

The only potential difference between the two is that one of them might be correct, and the other just a fable.

God is not supernatural. He's part of the universe so he must comply with his own laws, even if he created them. Human may not understand God, but there's lots of things we have yet to understand, as well. If it exists, it has an explanation, therefore it is natural.

 

[Francis]

God is supernatural. When someone can't explain something I can think of three reactions. Say God did it which is supernatural. Say some unnatural mysterious thing caused it which is paranormal. Say I don't know which is correct.

I am not sure about Minor's view on this but mine is more in the aspect of the past civilizations of the Aztecs, Mayans and so one who had drawings of spaceships and Gods that some say were linked together.. Whether they associated UFOs to Gods or whether they met with Aliens they considered Gods is really hard to understand totally IMO..

There are so many artifacts that cannot totally be explained and can only be "scientifically" assumed. While one can understand an attach a label to something in our view of comprehension, there are still many variables we have yet to discover and learn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts

 

[doombug]

Where did Minor say you were delusional.. He asked if you were or were not ? Simple yes or no answer.

I was asking Minor Axis, not you.

 

[Zorak]

There is no such thing as the supernatural of course, by it's very own definition, it can't exist within reality.

 

[Minor Axis]

Where did I say I was delusional? You must have imagined it which proves you are delusional.

You said:

Non-believers seem even more delusional so it must be a human thing.

...and I replied:

Wait-a-minute, are you saying your are delusional along with the rest of us, or are you are one of the few who is not delusional?

...asking you if your statement implied we were all delusional. Non-believers seem even more delusional than what? The structure of your sentence implies that non-believers are more delusional than another group, and the other group could also be delusional, not just as delusional as non-believers.

Sorry Minor, I meant to answer this the other day.. Kids and all I did not get to it..

I think leaving out the possibility is leaves an option that is far from being open minded..

If you are saying that I am leaving out the possibility of God, that is not true. God is a possibility. However I have issues with specific details of God as described by Christianity especially based on a book written and manipulated by 10 century men.

I think the only difference between religious, supernatural, and "old wive's" stories is power social groups tie to them.

Agreed. It's all about social acceptance regardless of the lack of evidence for. I realize it's a cliche, but it's faith because there is no proof.

God is supernatural. When someone can't explain something I can think of three reactions. Say God did it which is supernatural. Say some unnatural mysterious thing caused it which is paranormal. Say I don't know which is correct.

If the premise is God, then God functions in a natural way we have yet to understand or a supernatural way that defies the laws of known physics. Of course Theist would say the latter lays within God's capabilities. He makes and breaks the rules as he feels like it.

I am not sure about Minor's view on this but mine is more in the aspect of the past civilizations of the Aztecs, Mayans and so one who had drawings of spaceships and Gods that some say were linked together.. Whether they associated UFOs to Gods or whether they met with Aliens they considered Gods is really hard to understand totally IMO..

There are so many artifacts that cannot totally be explained and can only be "scientifically" assumed. While one can understand an attach a label to something in our view of comprehension, there are still many variables we have yet to discover and learn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_astronauts

That is one of the popular science fiction themes. When one civilization bumps into a extremely advanced civilization it would be difficult for the primitive civilization to figure out if they were dealing with their God or flesh and blood. It is as I've said, if a face appeared in the Sky with long white hair and beard and said "Behold, I AM your God". What would we make of that?

I was asking Minor Axis, not you.

And I've answered you.

Happy holidays and merry Christmas to all.

 

[doombug]

I stated:

Non-believers seem even more delusional so it must be a human thing.

To which you replied:

LOL. Wait-a-minute, are you saying your are delusional along with the rest of us, or are you are one of the few who is not delusional? It's a human thing as compared to say a squirrel thing? Thanks for the reveal.

So, you answered your own question with the phrase "Thanks for the reveal". I took that as you saying you think that I am delusional. To which I replied:

Where did I say I was delusional? You must have imagined it which proves you are delusional.

I see you have decided to cut some of your post which would explain my reaction to your question. Nice try or maybe you didn't understand my answer because it wasn't simple enough for you. I'll try and keep things simple for you.

 

[Minor Axis]

So, you answered your own question with the phrase "Thanks for the reveal". I took that as you saying you think that I am delusional.

You took it wrong. I've all ready told you that. (Sigh)... never mind.

 

[doombug]

You took it wrong. I've all ready told you that. (Sigh)... never mind.

Really? How so?