Did Osama die ?

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redliner

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Kinda skeetchy no ?

Just when you thought it would be impossible for ANY piece of news to get MORE attention and media-coverage than the Royal Wedding, late last night most of us heard the news that Osama Bin Laden was KILLED in a mansion in Pakistan by a US-led team of operatives [you can't make it rain on Pakistani-h0es in a cave] – but as the world ponders how Al-Qaeda will respond to his murder, the question we really should be asking is: Did Osama Bin Laden actually die this weekend or LONG before?
Now let me make it very clear: I am simply examining the very realistic possibility that Osama has been dead for a minute, NOT making it an absolute 100% assertion. The reality is, people who believe 100% that he died last night or 10 years ago, but have never met Osama or actually SEEN him die, are STUPID as hell because all we can do is toss around theories which MAY or MAY NOT be the truth. But let this be known, the idea that Osama has been LONG DEAD is not as far-fetched as you may think.
The leading theory is that Osama died in the Tora Bora Mountains of Afghanistan on December 14th, 2001 and was buried in an unmarked grave within 24 hours [as per THIS BLOG]. Author David Ray Griffin wrote a very informative book called Osama Bin Laden: Dead or Alive? in which he investigated the theory that Osama has been dead since 2001, and here are some of his main points [which are VERY hard to refute]:
1. BIN LADEN ACTIVELY COMMUNICATED TO HIS FOLLOWERS
…up until mid-December 13, 2001, the CIA had regularly been intercepting messages between bin Laden and his people. At that time, however, the messages suddenly stopped, and the CIA has never again intercepted a message.
It’s really strange that he would continually communicate with his followers intricate plans and heinous ideologies and then magically disappear like Judy Winslow. Maybe the CIA hasn’t been able to tap into any subsequent communication channels – or maybe there just was NONE to tap into.
2. BIN LADEN WAS DYING OF KIDNEY DISEASE
He had been treated for it in the American Hospital in Dubai in July 2001, at which time he reportedly ordered two dialysis machines to take home. And in January of 2001, Dr. Sanjay Gupta said – based on a video of bin Laden that had been made in either late November or early December of 2001 – that he appeared to be in the last stages of kidney failure.
I don’t think the last stages of Kidney Failure has a 10 year timespan. Is Osama the Magic Johnson of terrorists now?
3. YES, HE’S MADE A LOT OF TAPES – BUT THEY ARE JUST IMPOSTERS
It is sometimes possible, however, to prove a tape to be a fake. For example: If the person hired to play bin Laden writes with his right hand; if he is much heavier and darker than bin Laden was in a tape made about the same time; if he has fatter hands and shorter fingers; if his nose has a different shape. And if, in discussing the Twin Towers, he says that the fire melted the steel, whereas the real bin Laden would have known that a building fire cannot melt steel. I am speaking here of the video that was allegedly found by US troops in Jalalabad, Afghanistan, in November 2001, which is widely known as the “bin Laden confession video.”
The most obviously faked video is one that, appearing in 2007, was identical to the October Surprise video of 2004, except that the bin Laden figure now had a completely black beard, leading me to call it the video from “Blackbeard the Terrorist.” Although pundits tried, with straight faces, to explain why bin Laden might have dyed his beard..
Now many of you may be thinking “who the hell cares when he died, he’s dead now!” but there IS a very good reason to be concerned about this if it was all just an elaborate hoax. The answer to your question may be in Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 in how important going to war was for the Bush administration and how the war may have NEVER been supported by the public if we knew Osama was already dead. What about the Patriot act and all the suspensions of freedoms that occurred because of the impending threat of Terrorism?
So before you go hit the dougie at some pro-America/Anti-Al-Quada rally, maybe we should start asking some tough questions of the powers that be, like: can we see a real autopsy of Bin laden’s recently deceased body?
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Peter Parka

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Osama most probably died, if it was when and how we have been told though is a different matter. All I know is that I don't care enough about it to infect my computer with a load of trojans and virusses to find out. :D;)
 

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Kinda skeetchy no ?

It was also reported that ubl died 12/01. If that is indeed true, all the booga booga since then is quite sketchy, no?

But that can't be. After all, governments wouldn't use manipulation and fear for political gain. That would be wrong.
 

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i'm english,on this board i've been accused of hating americans.....but he died,who cares when...what he did was punished,one way or another
 

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Or in his case the infamous.

I'm thinking he's probably holed up in some mosque around where I live. There's a whack of 'em here and they all look alike to me.

hes dead...but by the remote chance that he didn't die hes in britain,in leicester...he'd fit in with the inbreds there
 

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i'm english,on this board i've been accused of hating americans.....but he died,who cares when...what he did was punished,one way or another

For a minute there I thought I was at an AA meeting.

Back on track...

Conspiracy theorists abound Ian. For some strange reason some people thrive on that shit.
 

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I was in Jalalibad, where the choppers lifted off from with the seals to go get him. I was wondering what all those fucking semen were doing wandering around the FOB (There is no navy in afghanistan but the sea-bees and they wear Army ACU's when deployed) turns out they were seals prepping to go get him. And they did.
 

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Ya but they pretty much stick to killin' their own so I don't feel very threatened.

Well that's not entirely true but we'll save that for a different thread.

Not a place to walk through at night..looking pale. :ninja
Anyway...........I like the idea of a different thread
 

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I was in Jalalibad, where the choppers lifted off from with the seals to go get him. I was wondering what all those fucking semen were doing wandering around the FOB (There is no navy in afghanistan but the sea-bees and they wear Army ACU's when deployed) turns out they were seals prepping to go get him. And they did.

Well that there is just blasphemous. Semen wandering around.....what a waste
 
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