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I don't see reason for slap-happy celebration of Bin laden's death, at least, not how I see a large population cheering at it's result.

I would share the same enthusiasm perhaps if it was done so right after or close to 9/11, but years later... I feel nothing but a tingle. Part of me thinks it was the worst thing to happen, all the younger followers and leaders of this man are now enraged threatening to retaliate.

They didn't solve a problem, they made a new one.:willy_nilly:

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Disclaimer: I am not dismissing the amazing people that leave their families and fight and protect.... i question the people hiding behind them making the decisions.
 
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My first thought upon hearing the news was "oy, this could get ugly". That's how I still feel. It's hard to say...I just hope as many people can remain safe as possible.
 

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I don't see reason for slap-happy celebration of Bin laden's death, at least, not how I see a large population cheering at it's result.

I would share the same enthusiasm perhaps if it was done so right after or close to 9/11, but years later... I feel nothing but a tingle. Part of me thinks it was the worst thing to happen, all the younger followers and leaders of this man are now enraged threatening to retaliate.

They didn't solve a problem, they made a new one.:willy_nilly:

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Disclaimer: I am not dismissing the amazing people that leave their families and fight and protect.... i question the people hiding behind them making the decisions.
The US had to find him dead or alive and his death symbolized the greatest man hunt in quite sometime. I do not think it has shut the books on terrorism at all, in fact it may lead to a inquiry into our relationship with Pakistan more importantly. And if the Bush administration found him iin the few days after 9/11 or even before his tenure as president was up he would have looked like a national hero. Imagine if the Allied forces got to Hitler before his suicide, would it have been the same?
 
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Well, Bin laden was the hate figure but of course there were thousands of other people involved in 9/11, I would imagine.
 
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My first thought upon hearing the news was "oy, this could get ugly". That's how I still feel. It's hard to say...I just hope as many people can remain safe as possible.

See, I don't see now anyone can feel 'safe' due to the news...

That whole organization is like a hydra.... cutting off one head... isn't a big deal or stop it.
 

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See, I don't see now anyone can feel 'safe' due to the news...

That whole organization is like a hydra.... cutting off one head... isn't a big deal or stop it.

Basically my statement was just saying "I hope a ton of people don't die in a retaliation attack" but didn't want to sound morbid. I don't think a sense of security should result from this at all.
 

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The US had to find him dead or alive and his death symbolized the greatest man hunt in quite sometime. I do not think it has shut the books on terrorism at all, in fact it may lead to a inquiry into our relationship with Pakistan more importantly.

I know it hasn't.

And while I'd glad, he himself won't be at the head of any other 9/11 type attacks... I don't feel any real relief.

About the same when a child molester has been caught and killed... it still happened, it was horrible... and it's going to happen again.

Well, Bin laden was the hate figure but of course there were thousands of other people involved in 9/1, I would imagine.

Quite sure of it....:(
 

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Basically my statement was just saying "I hope a ton of people don't die in a retaliation attack" but didn't want to sound morbid. I don't think a sense of security should result from this at all.

I understood, and couldn't agree more.
 

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I wouldn't think there'll be any difference.

It's not like the afghan resistance care about bin laden, they'll continue attacking coalition troops. And it was only a year ago someone tried to blow up times square.
 

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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/this-is-not-a-time-to-party/story-e6frfhqf-1226049441564

More than 4000 US soldiers and untold Iraqi civilians have died since that infamous display of hubris....
Enough of the propaganda. We need to put ourselves on a higher level than the barbarians who dance in the streets whenever al-Qaida claims more victims.

The world will not be worse off for Osama bin Laden's passing, but humanity will be if we think it appropriate to gloat over his death.
 

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I'm happy he's dead and I hope the last thing to go through his head, besides the bullet, was fear and excrutiating pain
 

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there will always be a psychotic dictator out there and there will always be a Frankenstein's monster for the U.s. to clean up after.
 

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It's becoming pretty clear that he, or the people he was holed up with in that compound, were still holding a key role in running the "Al Quaeda" network. What's less clear to me is just how big or dangerous that network still is at this point 10 years post-9/11. While there are still plenty of radicals out there who wish to do us harm, I just don't believe there is any kind of large, organized, well-funded machine of terror waiting to unleash on the US again. I think we've done a pretty thorough job of shredding it into small fragments. What is lost in the hoopla over OBL's death is that we were able to recover a LOT of new intelligence - computer files, contacts etc. - that may be able to help us finish off the group once and for all. Of course we'll never eliminate all of the radical muslim ideology or all of it's followers, be we have seriously hampered the ability for those to do much damage. We've essentially reduced them to throwing rocks. And while in the short term, OBL being back in the media spotlight might draw some angry shouts and a barrage of rocks tossed our way in anger, I think that's pretty much all we'll see - a few rock-throwing incidents.

The worst part of this, to me, is that in less than 24 hours Americans reduced the whole thing to a Dem v. Rep pissing contest again, and another opportunity to trash Obama and/or Bush. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all go back to how we felt on 9/12/01 when we didn't give a fuck about anything except our common pride for our country and desire for justice? Wouldn't it be nice to be able to see this as that "justice" we needed, pat each other on that back and appreciate what we have here?
 

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Im not celebrating his death but I am happy he is dead. I also have no doubt that there will be more attacks. Just dont know where or when.
 

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You kill my fellow innocent citizens, I will wish you dead. It's pretty black and white to me. Let what their version of God comfort them. Me, I do celebrate the end of his life and I think the world is a better place without him.
 

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I personally don't feel any safer with bin Laden being dead. However, I think it was an important milestone, if for no other reason than because he was finally found and killed. The closure that this seems to have brought to families that lost loved ones on 9/11 cannot be measured in any normal fashion. If it brought that to even a few of them, then I'll celebrate along with everyone else.

Well, Bin laden was the hate figure but of course there were thousands of other people involved in 9/11, I would imagine.

I have serious doubts that there were "thousands" of people involved with the attacks. Quite simply put, they would have been discovered if that had been the case. al-Qaeda and other terrorist cells seem to act in small groups, with only the leaders of each individual cell knowing exactly what they're going to do, and sometimes they don't even have the specifics until the time comes. Those involved may have an idea, but that's probably about as far as it truly goes. Hundreds? Perhaps. Thousands? Doubtful. This kind of thing was most likely super highly compartmentalized in order to limit the risk of it being sniffed out before it happened.
 

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I'm happy that he's been brought to justice for the terrible things he did but the celebrations are completely over the top. In the grand scheme of things, his death makes no difference whatsover. It's not like extremist terrorists are going to pack up their bombs and go home because bin Laden is dead.
 
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