BREAKING NEWS!! U.S. trades Taliban commanders for solider

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U.S. trades Taliban commanders for solider, and I’m confused

It's been announced in the last few hours that the only U.S. soldier who was held by the Afghans as a prisoner of war—Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl—was handed over to the U.S. this morning. Bergdahl had been held captive for nearly five years (he's reported to be in good shape). In return, the U.S. released five prisoners from Guantanamo. According to the Daily Beast, these aren't low-level functionaries, but major Taliban commanders:

The five Guantanamo detainees released by the Obama administration in exchange for America’s last prisoner of war in Afghanistan, Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, are bad guys. They are top Taliban commanders the group has tried to free for more than a decade.

According to a 2008 Pentagon dossier on Guantanamo Bay inmates, all five men released were considered to be a high risk to launch attacks against the United States and its allies if they were liberated. The exchange shows that the Obama administration was willing to pay a steep price, indeed, for Bergdahl’s freedom. The administration says they will be transferred to Qatar, which played a key role in the negotiations.

In the initial statements released about the deal, the White House declined to name the detainees who would be leaving the Cuba based prison Obama has been trying to close since his first day in office.

A senior U.S. defense official confirmed Saturday that the prisoners to be released include Mullah Mohammad Fazl, Mullah Norullah Noori, Abdul Haq Wasiq, Khairullah Khairkhwa and Mohammed Nabi Omari.

While not as well known as Guantanamo inmates like 9-11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the Taliban 5 were some of the worst outlaws in the U.S. war on terror. And their release will end up replenishing the diminished leadership ranks of the Afghan Taliban at a moment when the United States is winding down the war there.

“They are undoubtedly among the most dangerous Taliban commanders held at Guantanamo,” said Thomas Joscelyn, a senior editor at the Long War Journal, who keeps a close watch on developments concerning the detainees left at the Guantanamo Bay prison.

I'm absolutely thrilled for Bergdahl's family that he's coming home: imagine thinking for five years that you'd never see your husband/father/relative/friend again. What a relief that he's free!

But I'm a bit puzzled and, I admit, slightly disturbed by the swap.

Lord knows I despite the sequestration of prisoners on Guantanamo, and think they should be given a fair trial in the U.S. by civil courts. But I thought it was the policy of the U.S. government never to negotiate with terrorists, and it seems to me that these Taliban bigwigs are terrorists. Or, even if they're regarded as prisoners of war (in which case swaps are okay), why do we give up five to get one? What is the right ratio? Should release dozens of people who will go back to the business of trying to kill us in return for one of our own? Do we hold the life of a single soldier higher than the potential damage the released prisoners may cause?

The policy of not negotiating with terrorists is supposedly designed to avoid legitimizing such groups, and to prevent the wholesale kidnapping of our citizens as a means of securing the release of criminals. Yet this is what we've done. I have to conclude that our government's policy is a sham: an official policy that is honored in the breach. And I can understand that, for the pressure from distraught family members must be overwhelming. In other words, we always hear "we don't negotiate with terrorists," but there's a whisper out of the side of the mouth: "But really, we will."

I don't know the answer, and am willing to listen to readers. All I know is that I'm elated for Sgt. Bergdahl, his family, and his friends, but worried that we're enabling more of the same. All it will take is a few more kidnappings—even by civilians, and our jails will be emptied of terrorists.''

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Obama needs slapped..all this does is encourage terrorism.
Like father like son. You too , and your crony Stony, need to be doubly slapped for whining against the terrorists when you think your own country is promoting terrorism!
 

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Like father like son. You too , and your crony Stony, need to be doubly slapped for whining against the terrorists when you think your own country is promoting terrorism!
Where did I say our country is promoting terrorism?
I said that the swap will encourage terrorism...which it will as terrorist demands have been given into.
To top it off 5 terrorist leaders for one soldier.
According to your article these terrorist leaders will terrorize again...so although you gain one soldier you could potentially have major loss of life in the future .
You dont exchange prisoners until the finalization of a war...The was on terrorism is not over maz..Fact is you said it is growing and they pop up faster than can be eliminated.
So yeah Obama needs slapped...you on the other hand appear to have been slapped one to many times.
 

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Like father like son. You too , and your crony Stony, need to be doubly slapped for whining against the terrorists when you think your own country is promoting terrorism!



Where did I say our country is promoting terrorism?
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To The Man....you didn't. Nor did I.
It's simply more of mazHur the perverted racist, terrorist sympathizer ....presenting deception with a 4th grader's ability at sophistry.
 

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To The Man....you didn't. Nor did I.
It's simply more of mazHur the perverted racist, terrorist sympathizer ....presenting deception with a 4th grader's ability at sophistry.
Seems to be the norm for him.
 

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Where did I say our country is promoting terrorism?
I said that the swap will encourage terrorism...which it will as terrorist demands have been given into.
To top it off 5 terrorist leaders for one soldier.
According to your article these terrorist leaders will terrorize again...so although you gain one soldier you could potentially have major loss of life in the future .
You dont exchange prisoners until the finalization of a war...The was on terrorism is not over maz..Fact is you said it is growing and they pop up faster than can be eliminated.
So yeah Obama needs slapped...you on the other hand appear to have been slapped one to many times.


It's all in the news and commentaries. Your agreeing or disagreeing will not change American policies,,,not at all.
Without getting involved into reasons whatever..apparently America has retreated and succumbed to Taliban dictates.....which is a prima facie proof that your war on terror has failed and has been conducive to further terrorism to every nook and corner of the world...
This is bad for America as well as other nations...You have put Europe, nay the whole world into a state of wariness ....and fear.

This is the reason I emphasised the need for peace and cessation of WARS....
Nowhere do my comments allude to my sympathizing with the terrorists...it's you only who interpret it that way because of your idiocy and idiotic idiosyncrasies.

Talibans are seemingly still holding on against a super power and its powerful allies..and there is no sign of their retreat.... .Is this the way you wanna fight 'terrorism' or does America have different aims for stirring the pot?? Surely your media won't tell you unless you came to Afghanistan or Pakistan to help the marines ...and face the tune/
 

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That is not a response to my question maz.
If you are having trouble understanding the questions just say so /so I can rephrase them.
 

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That is not a response to my question maz.
If you are having trouble understanding the questions just say so /so I can rephrase them.
Army Sergeant Bowe Berghdal.Credit: Reuters

US Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl returned to US custody Saturday after being held captive by the Taliban in Afghanistan for nearly five years.

Bergdahl, 28, who is from Idaho, was captured in eastern Afghanistan on June 30, 2009 and was considered the only known missing US soldier in the Afghan war.

During a statement in the White House Rose Garden Saturday, President Barack Obama suggested that Bergdahl’s case is part of the US’s “ironclad commitment” to bring home its prisoners of war. He was joined by Bergdahl’s parents, who expressed their gratitude for everyone involved in their son’s release.







The so-called “non-violent exchange” with Taliban members was met with praise among many supporters of the release efforts.

Former Massachusetts senator and retired Army Colonel Scott Browntweeted his support for Bergdahl’s safe return:



But not all members of the military community—both current and former servicemembers—are celebrating Bergdahl’s release.

According to the Army Times, the site’s Facebook page has received hundreds of comments—many from servicemembers—with mixed reactions to Bergdahl’s release.

A number of negative comments centered on the circumstances surrounding Bergdahl’s capture in 2009, which remain unclear. Some reports indicate that Bergdahl, who had only been in country for about three months, was frustrated and had willingly walked away from his unit.

“It disgusts me greatly that a man that turned his back on his brothers, unit, and country is going to be hailed as a hero/saint,” said Jay D Williams, whose Facebook profile identified him as a US soldier.


The US agreed to release five Taliban detainees at the US prison in Guantanamo Bay in exchange for Bergdahl—a move that was also met with criticism by some.

However, some commentors on the Army Times Facebook page felt that regardless of the circumstances of his capture or release, the military fulfilled its duty not to leave any of its members behind.

“This guy may have made a tremendously bad decision, but I’m willing to bet that what he’s endured since then has been far worse than anything the US or military judicial system would have imposed,” saidanother commenter Mark Delano.

“We don’t leave anyone behind, regardless of the circumstances of why/how he was captured,” wrote Bradley Greaver, whose Facebook profile identifies him as a member of the US Air Force.

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I.........................

This is the reason I emphasised the need for peace and cessation of WARS....
Nowhere do my comments allude to my sympathizing with the terrorists...it's you only who interpret it that way because of your idiocy and idiotic idiosyncrasies.

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Nowhere do my comments allude to my sympathizing with the terrorists.
In the recent past you have called terrorists in PK and Afg freedom fighters defending their country's sovereignty.
You not only have denied al Qaeda was involved in 9/11, you even question whether there was a terrorist attack.

You are a chronic liar.
 

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I expect a picture of a jerking bear soon.
Ever notice how sex and anger are overlapping emotions for maz?
 

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I expect a picture of a jerking bear soon.
Ever notice how sex and anger are overlapping emotions for maz?


Dick heads, read this and explain, if you ever can!!

Where was the NSA? That's the question former State Department whistleblower Peter Van Buren recently asked at his We Meant Well blog -- and it couldn’t be a smarter one. After all, the Isla Vista killer, Elliot Rodgers, made both his own sense of disturbance and his urge for “retribution” against women quite public before he went on his terror spree. Shouldn’t the agency, whose unofficial motto (“collect it all”) seems to be meant quite literally, have noticed his messages to the world?

Given the ridiculous mass of human communications the NSA collects, both domestically and globally, perhaps not. But one reason its employees might not have been paying attention was that Rodgers wasn’t an Islamic jihadist-in-the-making or an al-Qaeda wannabe. He didn’t fall among the few fringe figures since 9/11 who have committed domestic acts of Islamic terror, including Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan, who slaughtered 13 at Fort Hood, Texas, the Tsarnaev brothers who briefly terrorized Boston, or Faisal Shahzad who managed to get a car bomb into New York’s Times Square. Of course, it’s worth remembering that the agency American taxpayers support to the tune of almost $11 billion a year and that has made surveillance in the name of "safety" part of the American way of life somehow missed them, too! Still, for the NSA one thing is clear enough: the Elliot Rodgers of this world may blow Americans away in numbers that put the casualty counts for what we call "domestic terrorism" to shame, but they aren’t considered "terrorists" and the war they are engaged in -- against women -- doesn’t qualify for any "war on terror.”

The numbers tell a grim story when it comes to this sort of terror in American life. Among other things, if you’re adding up casualties in this unnamed war, 1,500 women are murdered annually by their husbands or boyfriends. That adds up to a 9/11-sized disaster every two years. On the other side of things, in the wake of the killings in Isla Vista, California, and without the NSA stepping in to botch things up, the response to such terror has been extraordinary, and Rebecca Solnit, whose new Dispatch Book, Men Explain Things to Me, focuses on just what violence against women means in our world, offers her usual highly original look at ways in which women (and some men) are reconceiving our world and the horrors in it.Tom

Our Words Are Our Weapons
The Feminist Battle of the Story in the Wake of the Isla Vista Massacre
By Rebecca Solnit

It was a key match in the World Cup of Ideas. The teams vied furiously for the ball. The all-star feminist team tried repeatedly to kick it through the goalposts marked Widespread Social Problems, while the opposing team, staffed by the mainstream media and mainstream dudes, was intent on getting it into the usual net called Isolated Event. To keep the ball out of his net, the mainstream's goalie shouted “mental illness” again and again. That “ball,” of course, was the meaning of the massacre of students in Isla Vista, California, by one of their peers.

All weekend the struggle to define his acts raged. Voices in the mainstream insisted he was mentally ill, as though that settled it, as though the world were divided into two countries called Sane and Crazy that share neither border crossings nor a culture. Mental illness is, however, more often a matter of degree, not kind, and a great many people who suffer it are gentle and compassionate. And by many measures, including injustice, insatiable greed, and ecological destruction, madness, like meanness, is central to our society, not simply at its edges.

Click here to read more of this dispatch.
 

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I expect a picture of a jerking bear soon.
Ever notice how sex and anger are overlapping emotions for maz?

Yes, quite frequently, now that you mention it.
And often followed with some long winded copy and paste that has nothing to do with the topic.
 

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Dick heads, read this and explain, if you ever can!!

Where was the NSA? That's the question former State Department whistleblower Peter Van Buren recently asked at his We Meant Well blog -- and it couldn’t be a smarter one. After all, the Isla Vista killer, Elliot Rodgers, made both his own sense of disturbance and his urge for “retribution” against women quite public before he went on his terror spree. Shouldn’t the agency, whose unofficial motto (“collect it all”) seems to be meant quite literally, have noticed his messages to the world?

Given the ridiculous mass of human communications the NSA collects, both domestically and globally, perhaps not. But one reason its employees might not have been paying attention was that Rodgers wasn’t an Islamic jihadist-in-the-making or an al-Qaeda wannabe. He didn’t fall among the few fringe figures since 9/11 who have committed domestic acts of Islamic terror, including Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan, who slaughtered 13 at Fort Hood, Texas, the Tsarnaev brothers who briefly terrorized Boston, or Faisal Shahzad who managed to get a car bomb into New York’s Times Square. Of course, it’s worth remembering that the agency American taxpayers support to the tune of almost $11 billion a year and that has made surveillance in the name of "safety" part of the American way of life somehow missed them, too! Still, for the NSA one thing is clear enough: the Elliot Rodgers of this world may blow Americans away in numbers that put the casualty counts for what we call "domestic terrorism" to shame, but they aren’t considered "terrorists" and the war they are engaged in -- against women -- doesn’t qualify for any "war on terror.”

The numbers tell a grim story when it comes to this sort of terror in American life. Among other things, if you’re adding up casualties in this unnamed war, 1,500 women are murdered annually by their husbands or boyfriends. That adds up to a 9/11-sized disaster every two years. On the other side of things, in the wake of the killings in Isla Vista, California, and without the NSA stepping in to botch things up, the response to such terror has been extraordinary, and Rebecca Solnit, whose new Dispatch Book, Men Explain Things to Me, focuses on just what violence against women means in our world, offers her usual highly original look at ways in which women (and some men) are reconceiving our world and the horrors in it.Tom

Our Words Are Our Weapons
The Feminist Battle of the Story in the Wake of the Isla Vista Massacre

By Rebecca Solnit

It was a key match in the World Cup of Ideas. The teams vied furiously for the ball. The all-star feminist team tried repeatedly to kick it through the goalposts marked Widespread Social Problems, while the opposing team, staffed by the mainstream media and mainstream dudes, was intent on getting it into the usual net called Isolated Event. To keep the ball out of his net, the mainstream's goalie shouted “mental illness” again and again. That “ball,” of course, was the meaning of the massacre of students in Isla Vista, California, by one of their peers.

All weekend the struggle to define his acts raged. Voices in the mainstream insisted he was mentally ill, as though that settled it, as though the world were divided into two countries called Sane and Crazy that share neither border crossings nor a culture. Mental illness is, however, more often a matter of degree, not kind, and a great many people who suffer it are gentle and compassionate. And by many measures, including injustice, insatiable greed, and ecological destruction, madness, like meanness, is central to our society, not simply at its edges.

Click here to read more of this dispatch.

Yes, quite frequently, now that you mention it.
And often followed with some long winded copy and paste that has nothing to do with the topic.
 

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Yes, quite frequently, now that you mention it.
And often followed with some long winded copy and paste that has nothing to do with the topic.


Only you are a dick head not to understand diff beten off topic and on topic ..
now don't fart about Obama being stupid ;;;

I do but pity you and your broken ball Man!! Both of you are patently trolls....
Obama defends decision to trade 5 Guantanamo detainees for Bergdahl


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...-b98c-72cef4a00499_story.html?wpisrc=nl_hdtop

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Yes, quite frequently, now that you mention it.
And often followed with some long winded copy and paste that has nothing to do with the topic.

You are effed, silly fart!!

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