Blair Would Have Had War Regardless Of WMDs

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Blair attacked for Iraq war claim
Tony Blair is facing strong criticism after he said he would have gone to war in Iraq even if he had known there were not any weapons of mass destruction.
The former prime minister said it was the "notion" of Saddam as a threat to the region which tilted him in favour of the invasion of Iraq in 2003.
He added that he would have used different arguments to justify the war.
Critics have said Mr Blair misled Parliament and "tailored his arguments to fit the circumstances".
Hans Blix, who was in charge of the UN team searching Iraq for WMD, said he thought Mr Blair used WMD as a "convenient justification" for war.
"Saddam's removal was a gain but it's the only gain that I can see from the war," said Mr Blix.


I sympathise with the people who were against... but you know, in the end I had to take the decision
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Speaking on BBC One's Fern Britton Meets programme, Tony Blair was asked whether he would still have gone on with plans to join the US-led invasion had he known at the time that there were no WMD.
He said: "I would still have thought it right to remove him. I mean obviously you would have had to use and deploy different arguments, about the nature of the threat."
He added: "I can't really think we'd be better with him and his two sons still in charge, but it's incredibly difficult.
"That's why I sympathise with the people who were against [the war] for perfectly good reasons and are against it now, but for me, you know, in the end I had to take the decision."
He added that there had been "12 years of United Nations to and fro on this subject" of Iraq's weapons and that Saddam had "used chemical weapons on his own people".
Meanwhile, Iraq's foreign minister, Hoshyar Zebari, backed Mr Blair's stance.
The foreign minister, a member of a government brought into being as a result of the invasion, was a senior Kurdish official during the 1990s.
In 1988 Saddam attacked the Kurds in northern Iraq using chemical weapons.
Mr Zebari told the BBC: "As Iraqis who have gone through the suffering and the agony of Saddam Hussein's regime, we support Tony Blair's statement.


"I believe it was worth it. I believe Saddam Hussein's regime was an affront to the international community, to the international consciousness because of the atrocities, the crimes, he has committed."
But Mr Blix disagreed, saying he believed Mr Blair's statement had a "strong impression of a lack of sincerity".
"The war was sold on the weapons of mass destruction, and now you feel, or hear that it was only a question of deployment of arguments, as he said, it sounds a bit like a fig leaf that was held up, and if the fig leaf had not been there, then they would have tried to put another fig leaf there."
Mr Blix added that the weapon inspectors were "pretty close" to showing that after 700 inspections, that there were no WMDs.
'Moral high ground'
Conservative MP Richard Ottoway, a member of Parliament's Intelligence and Security Committee, said Mr Blair's comments were a "cynical ploy to soften up public opinion" before his appearance at the Iraq Inquiry.


Mr Ottoway added that Mr Blair had misled parliament on "more than one occasion" and that people would be "dismayed" that what was the "most significant foreign affairs initiative since World War II had been debated on a false premise".
He added that some MPs may had made a different decision had they known the "full unvarnished truth".
Former Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell agreed, saying he would have failed to obtain the support of the Commons.
Reg Keys, the father of a British soldier killed in Iraq in 2003, said he was "absolutely flabbergasted" at Mr Blair's statement and he thought Mr Blair was trying to "struggling to find some moral high ground in order to justify the total farce of the Iraq invasion".
And Carol Turner of the Stop the War Coalition said it was "extraordinary" that Mr Blair was admitting that he was prepared to tailor his arguments to fit the circumstances.
"It's not a matter of applauding his honesty now; it's a matter of attacking his lack of honesty and integrity in the circumstances."
Mr Blair is set to be the key witness to the Iraq inquiry, which is looking at the whole build-up to the war and its conduct and aftermath.


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I think he's right.

I don't appreciate the bollocks about WMD, but Saddam Hussein was genocidal. Sometimes the right thing can be done for the wrong reasons.
 

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If there was a case for nation building in the region to benefit the west Iraq was the logical choice at the time.

In hindsight perhaps if we had waited then the current state of affairs in Iran would have been the better choice.

We need another country that is democratic in the region. It would be a stabilizer I think.

Having said that though I would prefer we get the hell out of the entire region and let special ops, drones and Israel do the dirty work.

We need to find a way to get off the oil nipple. Sooner the better. Until then though the free flow of oil is critical to the US
 

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Cant say I could have seen Blair getting the go ahead from his government if he had stated this opinion at the time. :humm:
 

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Cant say I could have seen Blair getting the go ahead from his government if he had stated this opinion at the time. :humm:

He doesn't need to. The prime minister is the sole commander of British forces in place of the Queen.
 

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Oh come on! If he had turned round and said bollocks, I'm doing it anyway to his government without their approval, how long do you think he would have lasted?
 

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I don't deal in hypotheticals. And as far as I recollect, their was a strong resistance against the war prior to invasion inside the cabinet anyway.

He then went on to serve 3 more years, and won an election.
 

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If there was a case for nation building in the region to benefit the west Iraq was the logical choice at the time.

In hindsight perhaps if we had waited then the current state of affairs in Iran would have been the better choice.

We need another country that is democratic in the region. It would be a stabilizer I think.

Having said that though I would prefer we get the hell out of the entire region and let special ops, drones and Israel do the dirty work.

We need to find a way to get off the oil nipple. Sooner the better. Until then though the free flow of oil is critical to the US
Ends don't justify means. The ends never justify the means. The Monroe Doctrine was wrong, the Roosevelt corollary was wrong, and nation-building in the Middle East is wrong.
 
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