Attitude Toward Religion In The UK

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Thought this might make interesting reading for some of you to see how seriously religion is taken over here, Thoughts?

Religion and belief: some surveys and statistics

Numerous surveys indicate that the proportion of individuals who do not hold religious beliefs is steadily increasing.
Religions and beliefs are notoriously difficult to measure, as they are not fixed or innate, and therefore any poll should be primarily treated as an indication of beliefs rather than a concrete measure.
However, one of the most well-respected measures of religious attitudes is the annual British Social Attitudes Survey, further details of the latest report may be found here.
Religion and Belief in the United Kingdom:

In the UK, those who describe themselves as non-religious have risen from 31% to 43% between 1983 and 2008 according to the British Social Attitudes Survey’s 26th report issued in 2010.
An Ipsos MORI poll, published in January 2007 for the British Humanist Association indicated that 36% of people – equivalent to around 17 million adults – are in fact humanist in their basic outlook.
Another question found that 41% endorsed the strong statement: ‘This life is the only life we have and death is the end of our personal existence’. 62% chose ‘Human nature by itself gives us an understanding of what is right and wrong’, against 27% who said ‘People need religious teachings in order to understand what is right and wrong’.
In a 2006 Guardian/ICM poll:

  • 63% of people say they are not religious (compared to 33% that do)
  • 82% of those questioned see religion as a cause of division and tension between people
  • Only 17% of those polled believe the UK is best described as a Christian country
In a Mori poll for the Catholic weekly, The Tablet, published May 2005, the decline of religious belief is evident:

  • 36% of people in the 18-34 age group in Britain define themselves as atheist or agnostic
  • In the population as a whole, 24% say they have no religion
In the 2007-08 Citizenship Survey, participants were requested to select factors that they regarded as important to their identity from thirteen options. Whilst family was top with 97%, followed by interests (87%), religion ranked bottom at 48%. Religion ranked bottom consistently with all age groups up to 65+, where it only moves up to eleventh. Christians ranked religion as thirteenth as a factor important to their identity.
The 2001 Census:

According to the 2001 UK Census, those of no religion are the second largest belief group, about 2 and a half times as many as all the other (non-Christian) religions altogether – at 15.5% of the population. 7,274,290 people said they had “no religion” - though only 10,357 specified that they were atheists.
Jedi Knights had 390,127 followers, and formed a larger group than several of the “major religions”: Jews (259, 927); Sikhs (329, 358); Buddhists (144,453); or minor religions such as Jainism (15,132), Zoroastrianism (3,738) or the Baha’i faith (4,645).
However, the census does not measure religion or belief in any meaningful way. The Office for National Statistics understands the religion question to be a proxy question for ethnicity. This is in order to capture the Jewish and Sikh populations, both of which are captured under race legislation but are not included in the ethnicity category in the census, as they should be, rather than the religion category. The result is that a very loose, cultural affiliation is 'measured' by the census in terms of religion or belief, with particular over-inflation of the Christian figure, and an undercounting of the non-religious population. As a result, the census data on religion is most definitely not suitable for use by employers or service providers.
See our Census 2011 Campaign for a fairer, more accurate census on belief in Britain
Church Attendance in the UK:

According to the 26th report (2010) of the British Social Attitudes Survey, 23% of the population are affiliated with the Church of England (compared to 40% in 1983). 49% of this group never attend services; only 8% of people who identify with the Church of England attend church weekly.
Overall 62% of the population never attend any form of service.
According to ‘Religious Trends No 7 (2007-2008)’ published by Christian Research, overall church attendance in the United Kingdom has diminished rapidly in terms of percentages and in real terms.
In 1990 5,595,600 people, representing 10% of the UK population, regularly attended Church, by 2005 this number had reduced to 3,926,300, equating to 6.7% of the UK population
By 2015, the level of church attendance in the UK is predicted to fall to 3,081,500 people, or 5% of the population.
The Church of England’s own attendance figures, attest to the decline; between 2002 and 2008, average Sunday attendance figures have diminished from 1,005,000 to 960,000.
Religion and Belief internationally:

In 2007 Britain ranked 15th in the table that shows the top fifty countries with the largest percentage of people who identify themselves as either atheist, agnostic or a non-believer in God.
In 2004, the BBC commissioned an ICM poll in ten countries examining levels of belief, participants from the United Kingdom tended to display markedly less religious belief then many of their counterparts. In response to the question “A belief in God (higher power) makes for a better human being”, 43% participants from the UK disagreed with this statement, substantially more than any other nationality.
In the United States the picture of belief is quite different, in the USA only 3% of people questioned in the American Religious Identification Survey stated they did not have a belief in God, and only 8% were doubtful. However, it is important to note that in the USA, as with most of Europe, there is a marked decline in the level of belief; in 1991, 86% of Americans identified as Christian, by 2008, this number had reduced to 72%.
 
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Attitudes in the UK

Attitudes towards belief:

In a 2007 survey conducted by YouGov on behalf of the broadcaster and writer John Humphries, 42% of the participants believed religion had a harmful effect.
C of E not important say most people - YouGov, 2005
In a large-scale YouGov poll of over 3,500 people, the Church of England came 32nd out of 37 in a list of what people think defines Britishness. Only 17% of respondents thought that the Church of England was "very important" in contributing to a sense of Britishness, while 23% thought it was "not important at all".
Families at prayer? As congregations shrink, half of children with two religious parents reject church-ESRC, August 2005
Religious belief is declining faster than attendance at services in the UK, according to a study funded by the ESRC which found that parents' beliefs, practices and affiliations have the biggest impact on children.
Young People in Britain: The Attitudes and Experiences of 12-19 Year Olds (PDF) - Research report for the DfES, 2004
65% of young people are not religious. Though religious belief amongst the young has declined by 10% in less than 10 years, moral attitudes have not and fewer young people are racially prejudiced.
On Faith Schools:

For more a more detailed analysis, please see BHA faith schools statistics- http://www.humanism.org.uk/education/education-policy/faith-schools-why-not
In an Ipsos Mori poll commissioned by the teachers union NASWUT and Unison in April 2010, when asked which group is the most appropriate to run state-funded schools, only 4% answered “religious organisations”. When asked which group should not state-funded schools, 35% said religious organisations (the highest figure obtained by any organisation listed).
In a YouGov/Accord poll of June 2009:

  • 57% believed that state funded schools that selected students according to their religion harm community cohesion.
  • 72% agreed or strongly agreed that all schools should implement recruitment and employment policies that do not discriminate on grounds of religion or belief.•
  • 74% held the view that all state schools should teach an objective and balanced syllabus for education about a wide range of religious and non-religious beliefs.According to the British Social Attitudes Survey 2010, 42% of all those questioned are against any form of faith school.
According to the British Social Attitudes Survey 2010, 42% of all those questioned are against any form of faith school.
On Assisted Dying:

Polls taken on the issue of assisted suicide consistently demonstrate the majority of the public wish the law to be reformed, and to create a humane and ethical law on assisted dying.
According to the 26th report of the British Social Attitudes Survey published in 2010, 71% of religious people and 92% non-religious (82% in total) believe that a doctor should be allowed to end the life of a patient with an incurable disease.
In a January 2010 poll conducted for the BBC by ComRes, 75% of those questioned supported Physician Assisted suicide for the terminally ill.
A further poll taken in January 2010 by YouGov for the Daily Telegraph, 75% of the sample agreed that the law on Assisted Suicide should “Be amended to allow some people, such as doctors and/or close relatives to assist a suicide in particular circumstances”
In a Populus Poll for the Times in July 2009, 74% supported a change in the law legalising assisted suicide in the cases of individuals with a terminal illness.
During the debate over Lord Joffe’s Private Members Bill legalising Assisted Suicide in 2004, a YouGov poll found 80% of the public supported the intentions of the Bill.
On Abortion:

There is a consensus in the UK that abortion is justified in cases of a health risk to the parent or a defect has been diagnosed, with the British Social Attitudes Survey finding that, overall 78% of the UK population supports choice in these circumstances. However, whilst 86% of people categorised as un-religious were in favour, the religious were less supportive, with 67% supporting abortion rights where there is a health risk.
In a 2006 survey conducted by Ipsos Mori for the British Pregnancy Advisory Service (BPAS), found that 63% of the representative sample agreed with the statement that ‘if a woman wants an abortion, she should not have to continue with her pregnancy’ 18% disagreed with this.
This level of support has been tracked by a series of polls since the 1980s. In the earliest polls Ipsos Mori found 54% of respondents agreed that ‘abortions should be made legally available for all who want it’, and this number has generally been slowly rising.
In 2007, the organisation Catholics for Choice commissioned a poll from YouGov (PDF) on religious opinion towards abortion, and the involvement of Catholic Bishops in the political debate concerning abortion law. In response to the statement:
“It should be legal for a woman to have an abortion when she has an unwanted pregnancy”

  • 63% of all respondents to the poll strongly agreed or agreed (14% disagreed or strongly disagreed);
  • 58% of self-identified Protestants strongly agreed or agreed (19% disagreed or strongly disagreed);
  • 43% of self-identified Catholics strongly agreed or agreed (27% disagreed or strongly disagreed).
“Catholic bishops concentrate too much of their attention on abortion when there are other issues that also require their attention”

  • 64% of all respondents to the poll strongly agreed or agreed (8% disagreed or strongly disagreed);
  • 68 % of self-identified Protestants strongly agreed or agreed (7% disagreed or strongly disagreed);
  • 42% of self-identified Catholics strongly agreed or agreed (27% disagreed or strongly disagreed).

On medical research:
In the British Social Attitudes Survey, when asked “medical research on embryos should probably or definitely be allowed”, 61% of religious respondents agreed, compared to 77% non-religious respondents.
Religion and government

In the British Social Attitudes Survey 2010:

  • 75% of those questioned believed their religious leaders should not to influence their voting behaviour
  • 67% believe religious leaders should stay out of government decision making.
  • 45% of Britons believe that the involvement of religious leaders would have a deleterious effect on policy.
  • Only 25% of people believe religious involvement would produce better policy.
  • 73 % of respondents believe that “people with very strong religious beliefs are often too intolerant of others”. This view was held by 82% of people who class themselves as non-religious, and 63% of those who consider themselves religious
Bishops in the House of Lords:

74% of the British public believe it is wrong that Bishop’s have an automatic right to a seat in the House of Lords, including 70% of Christians according to an ICM survey conducted in 2010 on behalf of the Joseph Rowntree Reform Trust.
Volunteering and the non-religious

The report ‘Faith and Voluntary Action’ from the National Council of Voluntary Organisations (2007) finds that: “Religious affiliation makes little difference in terms of volunteering”
The 2001 Citizenship Survey finds that the proportion of people who volunteered and had a religious affiliation is similar to the proportion of people who had no religious affiliation, and this is true of both informal and formal volunteering. In both categories of those with religious affiliation and those with none, 39% participated in formal volunteering at least once a year, and 68% of those with no religious affiliation participated in informal volunteering versus 67% of those who describe themselves as having a faith.
The report also states that motivation for volunteering is complex – and ‘faith’ as a motivator is actually very difficult to prove/assess/measure
(Source: Religion in England and Wales: Findings from the Home Office 2001 Citizenship Survey, Home Office Research Study 274)
In the Cabinet Office research publication (2007) ‘Helping Out. A national survey of volunteering and charitable giving, shows that the rates of volunteering differ between religious groups differ within religious groups, and between religious and non-religious people. Non-religious people volunteer more than some, but less than others.

http://www.humanism.org.uk/campaigns/religion-and-belief-surveys-statistics
 

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I wonder if religion is more popular in the US than the UK because the US has separation of church and state. Separation is good for the state and the church.
 

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I am wondering if a lot of it has to do with the division of the church when we broke off from the Vatican and all the swapping back and forth and wars created over it due to the whole scandal.. I know that seems a little far fetched but things of that magnitude have repercussions if that makes sense.
 

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I wonder if religion is more popular in the US than the UK because the US has separation of church and state. Separation is good for the state and the church.

the uk is secular too, what gave you the impression it wasn't?
 

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I am wondering if a lot of it has to do with the division of the church when we broke off from the Vatican and all the swapping back and forth and wars created over it due to the whole scandal.. I know that seems a little far fetched but things of that magnitude have repercussions if that makes sense.

I thought it was just becuase people don't care for religion. I base my Religious feelings on myself and the fact I think all organised religions are cults, not something that happened nearly 500 years ago.

When I was questioning myself over if I am agnostic or atheist, I never once thought 'What would Henry VIII do' :p
 

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UK is pretty secular as it doesn't print the name of God on its bills!
How can a dollar bill and God go together?? But they are going together and that is perplexing and falls against the claim of a secular country!

Personally I think religion tends to afford humans a code of life....and to realize that there is someone who is more powerful than them and that humans could be be answerable to Him rather than to other humans like them! Just a thought..........
 

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the uk is secular too, what gave you the impression it wasn't?

I thought the Church of England was supported by state funds.

When I was questioning myself over if I am agnostic or atheist, I never once thought 'What would Henry VIII do' :p

Exactly, people don't really care what religion the king wants. People want a religion that fits them personally. If the king chooses the religion and supports it with state funds then it will cater to the king's needs. If there is a free market of religion where each religion survives on the charity of the people then religion will cater to the needs of the people. The former tends to kill religion. Under the later it seems to thrive.
 
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I thought it was just becuase people don't care for religion. I base my Religious feelings on myself and the fact I think all organised religions are cults, not something that happened nearly 500 years ago.

When I was questioning myself over if I am agnostic or atheist, I never once thought 'What would Henry VIII do' :p

Not exactly what I was talking about dear... I was talking about all the fact that yes it steamed from that but the fact that we fought back and forth for hundreds of years, Catholics against the Christians against the Lutherans against the Protestants ect ect that people finally got fed up with it and had to hid what they truly believed and followed there belief in there own way which inevitability made them lazy leading to there offspring just not caring in religion.
 

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I thought the Church of England was supported by state funds.

A good point, I'd argue it depends on how you define the state. The Queen is the head of the church of England, and no doubt contributes greatly in terms of finance. But the monarchy is a defunct remnant of an ancient system of governance that no longer exists. Kept only as a token to tradition and for posterity.
I am not aware that the parliament or elected members of national government offer any financial backing to the Church of England.
So, I suppose, de jure the state offers support to the Church of England financially. But in de facto circumstances it does not and supports the ideal of secularism.

The United Kingdom is a strange entity in that it has accepted the seperation of religion and government, without having a revolution to bring it into effect and it never becoming part of the law explicitly. I presume places like Portugal and the Netherlands followed a similar course. The process of secularist acceptance is far easier to chart in places like France and the USA, and to a lesser extent in the 'Enlightened Absolutist' states of the Holy Roman Empire and Russia in the 18th century.
 

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I wonder if religion is more popular in the US than the UK because the US has separation of church and state. Separation is good for the state and the church.

Hmmm...I see religion a lot more tied up in state in the USA than in the UK. A lot of Republican beliefs seem very tied up in religious beliefs, far more than Conservatism in the UK, anyway. Children in the UK dont have to take a pledge of allegiance admitting belief in god, our money dosen't have "in god we trust" written on it. Can you imagine the uproar in the USA if you had Darwin's image on your money like we do on our £10 notes? Zorak's answered what else I was going to say only better than I could probably explain.:thumbup
 

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Hmmm...I see religion a lot more tied up in state in the USA than in the UK. A lot of Republican beliefs seem very tied up in religious beliefs, far more than Conservatism in the UK, anyway. Children in the UK dont have to take a pledge of allegiance admitting belief in god, our money dosen't have "in god we trust" written on it. Can you imagine the uproar in the USA if you had Darwin's image on your money like we do on our £10 notes? Zorak's answered what else I was going to say only better than I could probably explain.:thumbup


PP, I have but little to disagree with you on this point! hooray!!
 

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Yeah Peter, there's no doubt the US is more religious than the UK. I'm just wondering why that is. I thought the US not having an official state-funded religion may have a lot to do with it. But if the church of England isn't and hasn't been state funded for a long time then that wouldn't be the case. Although if the Queen funds it then the effect would be similar. I think religion does best when it has to compete with other religions and other sects in the same religion.

Apparently people in the US think that "under God" in our pledge and "in God we trust" on our money are okay because no particular god is favored. Unfortunately one group that is discriminated against in the US is atheists. I leave "under God" out when I say the pledge. Some of our newer coins don't have "in God we trust" on them so there's hope. :)
 
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Hmmm...I see religion a lot more tied up in state in the USA than in the UK. A lot of Republican beliefs seem very tied up in religious beliefs, far more than Conservatism in the UK, anyway. Children in the UK dont have to take a pledge of allegiance admitting belief in god, our money dosen't have "in god we trust" written on it. Can you imagine the uproar in the USA if you had Darwin's image on your money like we do on our £10 notes? Zorak's answered what else I was going to say only better than I could probably explain.:thumbup

Regarding the state subsidizing the Church of England, are there other efforts to push it down the throats of UK citizens?

The U.S. has separation of church and state, but there is a minority trying hard to push their favorite religion, Christianity into the middle of it. Overall, I'd say the U.K. has a more advanced view of religion than the Yanks.
 
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That was an interesting read. I would say it is similar in Ireland. Especially in the younger generations, I'm 32 and pretty much all of my friends are not religious at all.
 

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Hasnt religion become rather complicated in the uk? As far as politically..this may explain a loss of interest
 

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Overall, I'd say the U.K. has a more advanced view of religion than the Yanks.

I find this very odd, because we both embraced the enlightenment movement. The USA enlightenment was just as vibrant as the English one, and nearly as bloody as the French.

At some point afterwards, America took a backwards step. A good example of this might be the addition of "under God" to the pledge of allegaince.
 
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