Are Libertarians really that unconcerned for others?

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illusion

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I've become more attracted to Libertarian ideas recently, but the biggest criticism I find about Libertarians is that they are selfish and don't care about others that are either being abused by a system or have a true need. I agree that charity can be abused, and often is, but is this really an unfair assessment of Libertarians? How do Libertarians handle charity and regulate companies?
 
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Alien Allen

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Libertarians are not as rigid as they are demonized to be.

In general their principles are far better than the crap put out by the republicans and democrats.

We are becoming more statist and socialistic by the day. Not good.

Rather than it takes a village to raise a child type of belief we need to be more accountable for our actions. That includes being a responsible parent. The mere fact that we are at staggering numbers of children born out of wedlock is but a mere example of how we have degraded as a society.
 

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I generally, don't believe all of what people on the other side say about a group. Some of it might be founded in fact, but a lot of time it get distorted. When I was talking to an avid Liberal about Libertarianism, he acted as if they were the cruelest most selfish group out there. I always have agreed with personal responsibility and freedom within one's own sphere. Obviously when you begin to harm others, your freedom needs to be limited. Does that apply with helping others? Or is there no room for charity within Libertarianism as my friend suggests?
 

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of course there is room for charity if you are a libertarian

it is forced charity via govt confiscating of ones earnings that is anti libertarian

how the hell did people existing 100 years ago? There was no massive tax grab by govt. If you had a problem a church or charity or heaven forbid family would take care of you.

I was definately not a fan of Romney but he was dead on right when he mentioned the 47%. You never will reach those people with libertarian viewpoints when it means they don't get to suck on the govt tit. and that tit gets better and those sucking on it growing in numbers all the time.

now it is the govt disguised as Hillary's Village that has to take care of us we are told.
 

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how the hell did people existing 100 years ago? There was no massive tax grab by govt. If you had a problem a church or charity or heaven forbid family would take care of you.

I agree with you, for the most part, so I'm only asking as someone who is interested in knowing what the responses are. So, from the Liberal side, they would say that there are people that won't be provided for by families, and that charities don't always have enough. Shouldn't there, at least, be some amount provided for by the State? My worry with that side of the argument is when does that aid become the reason why people don't provide for their own needs, and how could you ever prevent that from being abused. I suppose I don't have any answers myself, but I am curious about these questions.
 

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What might be misconstrued as not caring is really more of an attitude that the government should not be as heavily involved in peoples' lives as it currently is. Also, they take a stance on foreign policy that we should leave them alone and stop trying to be the "World Police" or forcing other countries to be more like the U.S.
 

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Ok first off. Libertarians are in favour of charity. I know lots of them who are involved in charity work. Its just enforced charity that the government makes us pay that we are against. Also I don't think its being selfish to expect accountability from your public representatives. You know much of the libertarian partys principles are tied up in the US constitution.
 

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You know much of the libertarian partys principles are tied up in the US constitution.

Do you think that there is any road back, or now that we have taxed everything in existence and are setting up National Health Care we've gone too far away from that kind of freedom to ever get it back without a revolution?
 

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Do you think that there is any road back, or now that we have taxed everything in existence and are setting up National Health Care we've gone too far away from that kind of freedom to ever get it back without a revolution?
If we have not already crossed that line we certainly will be soon.
 

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Ok first off. Libertarians are in favour of charity. I know lots of them who are involved in charity work. Its just enforced charity that the government makes us pay that we are against. Also I don't think its being selfish to expect accountability from your public representatives. You know much of the libertarian partys principles are tied up in the US constitution.

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