Ahmadinejad drives the GOP over the edge

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There’s just something painful about watching desperate people lash out wildly. Two weeks ago, Republican supporters of Bush’s Iraq policy decided that the single most important issue in the country was a newspaper ad from MoveOn.org. It took precedence over conditions in Iraq, troop rotations, and funding. The GOP, frantically hoping to avoid anything resembling a policy debate, kept its hysteria going for two weeks.
By all appearances, Republicans would love to keep MoveOn’s ad on the front-burner indefinitely, but the fickle political world can only tolerate so much obsession with trivia. So, the right has decided to drop the nonsense and engage in a serious discussion about the future of U.S. policy in the Middle East.
No, I’m just kidding. They’ve decided that Columbia University is the new Public Enemy #1 because it offered a forum to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
[Yesterday,] Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) said in a statement that if Columbia University President Lee Bollinger “follows through with this hosting of the leader of Iran, I will move in Congress to cut off every single type of Federal Funding to Columbia University.” […]
Appearing on Fox News’ Your World with Neil Cavuto after the speech, Hunter said that he plans to follow through on his threat and will now “initiate legislation, and try to get as many people as can see it my way, to cut off funds to Columbia University.”
Now, Duncan Hunter clearly has an incentive to appear unhinged. He’s a faltering presidential candidate, and the GOP base is easily riled up by absurd stunts like these. (Indeed, it’s a two-fer — it’s posturing on Iran and it’s blasting an Ivy League university filled with “intellectual elites.”) But whether he realizes it or not, Hunter only comes across looking foolish.
As Kevin Drum asked, “Don’t Republicans have anything better to do?” Apparently not.

TP has the video, but here’s the exchange on Fox News.
Cavuto: It is done. What do you do now?
Hunter: I think we initiate legislation and try to get as many people as we can see it my way to cut off funds to Columbia University. You know, when Ahmadinejad appeared, he has at this point actually sent across the line into Iraq deadly roadside bombs, these new bombs. I have seen some of these in Iraq myself, talking with the American commanders there. Those of American soldiers, American Marines in Iraq. This guy send [sic] those things across the line to kill Americans, and the idea that the university would lend its prestige to his appearance is, I think, if unacceptable, and I sent a letter to the president of the university, telling him that I would, in fact, move to try to cut off all funds to Columbia. Now, some people may follow me. Some people may not follow me.
I’m hoping for the latter. Ahmadinejad spoke, and he humiliated himself. Western civilization still stands. Republicans will probably find something new to whine about fairly soon, and Columbia won’t suffer any adverse consequences.
For what it’s worth, the far-right freak-out has not yet reached the White House.
President Bush said Ahmadinejad’s appearance at Columbia “speaks volumes about, really, the greatness of America.”
He told Fox News Channel that if Bollinger considered Ahmadinejad’s visit an educational experience for Columbia students, “I guess it’s OK with me.”
Bush added that America is “confident enough to let a person express his views.”
Some of us are apparently more confident than others.
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So what do you think about this? Should we even be discussing whether or not Columbia's Federal funding be cut? Or is this guy too far over the edge for saving?
 
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As to the article in the OP. I don't agree with MoveOn.org, certain far-out-in-right-field political nuts, exaggerations made by the media in regards to an ad being more important than other issues (what a load of crap), commentaries by certain-far-out-in-left-field political nuts, and Universities that will give a platform for a terrorist to speak - but not give a platform to an American Minuteman speak (have to go with McCain on this one). And while President Bush is correct in that this idiot is being allowed to speak says a great deal about how wonderful America is, I do not share his 'it is ok with me' statement. So while I agree that American "is confident enough to let a person express his views", it is of my opinion that Ahmadinejad should not even be a member of the UN and thus should not even be here in the United States.

Those are my thoughts and feelings on the matter anyway.
 

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Just so you are clear... the University DID let [SIZE=-1]Jim Gilchrist[/SIZE] (the Minute Man) talk. He was given his time at the podium. It was his second appearance that was canceled. And when the University was questioned about the cancellation, they said it was a postponement and not a cancellation. So they did not deny his opportunity to speak.

And this I heard from him directly on the radio yesterday. [SIZE=-1]Jim Gilchrist was speaking to Ed Shultz for about 10 minutes or so on the topic.
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Just so you are clear... the University DID let [SIZE=-1]Jim Gilchrist[/SIZE] (the Minute Man) talk. He was given his time at the podium. It was his second appearance that was canceled. And when the University was questioned about the cancellation, they said it was a postponement and not a cancellation. So they did not deny his opportunity to speak.

And this I heard from him directly on the radio yesterday. [SIZE=-1]Jim Gilchrist was speaking to Ed Shultz for about 10 minutes or so on the topic.
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Well right on. Thanks for the update on that Tim. That is reassuring.
 

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Legislatures May Act on Columbia
Silver Warns of Impact on State Aid


BY JACOB GERSHMAN - Staff Reporter of the Sun
September 24, 2007
URL: Legislatures May Act on Columbia - September 24, 2007 - The New York Sun

As the president of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, prepares to address Columbia University today amid a storm of student protest, state and city lawmakers say they are considering withholding public funds from the school to protest its decision to invite the leader to campus.

In an interview with The New York Sun, the speaker of the Assembly, Sheldon Silver, said lawmakers, outraged over Columbia's insistence on allowing the Iranian president to speak at its World Leaders Forum, would consider reducing capital aid and other financial assistance to the school.
Lawmakers warned about other consequences for Columbia and its president, Lee Bollinger, who has resisted campus and public pressure to cancel Mr. Ahmadinejad's appearance today, arguing that Columbia's commitment to scholarship requires the school to directly confront offensive ideas.

"There are issues that Columbia may have before us that obviously this cavalier attitude would be something that people would recall," Mr. Silver said. "Obviously, there's some degree of capital support that has been provided to Columbia in the past. These are things people might take a different view of … knowing that this is that kind of an institution."
Mr. Silver faulted Columbia for "attempting to legitimize this individual," saying, "We have an obligation because of the U.N. to allow him to come to this country. It doesn't mean we have to make him welcome. We don't have to give him a forum."

The speaker said he was infuriated by comments made on Saturday by the acting dean of the School of International and Public Affairs, John Coatsworth, who said in a television interview that it would have been proper for Columbia to extend a speaking invitation to Hitler in 1939. Mr. Coatsworth's school is sponsoring the event.

"What makes it more outrageous is the fact that some dean yesterday said he would have invited Adolf Hitler. It's totally outrageous. This is not a matter of academic freedom. This is a matter of legitimizing people, one who was the perpetrator of the Holocaust and one who denies its existence," Mr. Silver said.

"He's clearly responsible for the deaths of Americans both in Iraq and elsewhere. And he remains as much a threat to the world as anybody today. I don't understand what this dean and Columbia are thinking," Mr. Silver said.

Mr. Silver's criticism of Columbia was echoed by other elected officials, who argued that Columbia was lending its name and prestige to a leader of a terrorist-sponsoring dictatorship who denies the existence of the Holocaust, vows to eliminate Israel, preaches Islamic extremism, and aspires to build nuclear weapons.

"Bollinger made a big mistake, and there should be consequences for him for making that decision," the chairman of the New York City Council's Finance Committee, David Weprin, said in an interview. "We should look at everything involving Columbia, whether it be capital projects, city and state, or other related things that we do in the city for them," he said.
Mr. Weprin was one of several elected officials who joined Jewish leaders, Columbia students, and alumni yesterday at a demonstration at the Morningside Heights campus to protest Mr. Ahmadinejad's talk.

"It's not going to go away just because this episode ends. Columbia University has to know … that they will be penalized," an assemblyman of Brooklyn, Dov Hikind, who also attended the rally, said. The lawmaker said Mr. Ahmadinejad should be arrested when he sets foot on campus.

Speaking at the rally, a New York City Council member, James Gennaro, urged university donors to withhold their dollars from the institution, while Rep. Anthony Weiner, a potential mayoral candidate in 2009, said Columbia's reputation was taking a "brutal beating."

Mr. Silver's warning of sanctions against Columbia is a highly unusual departure for a state leader who has seldom, if ever, threatened to use the power of the state purse to punish a private university.

A spokesman for the Senate Republicans, John McArdle, said the majority conference is "going to review the whole situation and decide on how, or whether, to proceed."

Mayor Bloomberg, who visited the Flight 93 memorial site in Shanksville, Pa., yesterday told reporters he disagreed with Columbia's decision to host Mr. Ahmadinejad but promised the city would "provide the protection to make sure that when he gets there, he speaks safely without any threats and leaves."

Albany awards Columbia millions of dollars a year in student financial aid and also provides funding for smaller-scale capital projects. Last year, Albany awarded the school $10 million for nanotechnology center and $12 million for a cancer center in Washington Heights.

Columbia uses the state Dormitory Authority to borrow money at low interest rates. Mr. Silver could use his influence over the authority to weed out Columbia bonding projects before they are submitted for approval.
The school is also seeking approval from city lawmakers for its plan to expand into a 17-acre swath of land in West Harlem. Albany also has the power to use eminent domain to facilitate Columbia's expansion.

Mr. Bollinger has defended his university's invitation to Mr. Ahmadinejad, saying that in order to fulfill Columbia's mission, he must respect the rights of faculty and deans to "create programming for academic purposes." On occasion, he said, "this will bring us into contact with beliefs many, most, or even all of us will find offensive and even odious."

A year ago, Mr. Bollinger rescinded Columbia's invitation to Mr. Ahmadinejad to speak at the same annual forum, apparently overruling a former dean of SIPA, Lisa Anderson. Mr. Bollinger, at the time, said he couldn't be certain that the Iranian leader's presence at the school would "reflect the academic values that are the hallmark of a university event such as our World Leaders Forum." An assistant to Ms. Anderson said the event was cancelled because of security and logistical concerns.

Inside the university, Mr. Bollinger yesterday faced criticism from several student leaders, some of whom supported the invitation to Mr. Ahmadinejad but said they were angry that they were not consulted by the administration.

"I've heard a lot of feedback already from people saying they don't want to give money," Elizabeth Goldhirsch, who graduated from Columbia's school of journalism in 2002, said. "I will not make a donation if this stance is maintained."

Mr. Bollinger, who has served as president since 2002, also was confronting signs of increasing division in his administration.
The dean of Columbia Law School, David Schizer, in a statement called Mr. Ahmadinejad "a reprehensible and dangerous figure," and said it would be "deeply regrettable if some misread this invitation as lending prestige or legitimacy to his views."


Mr. Ahmadinejad, who is attending the U.N. General Assembly, arrived in New York late yesterday. He is scheduled to speak at Columbia for an hour, beginning at 1:30 p.m., and will issue his remarks in Farsi with simultaneous translation, a university spokesman said.

Columbia officials say the Iranian leader will be escorted onto campus through the gate at 114th Street, which leads directly to Lerner Hall. He is scheduled to depart immediately after the event. Campus security, which is coordinating with local and federal authorities, is planning for more than 10,000 protesters to congregate outside the university's gates.

Columbia distributed 600 tickets to the talk, where Mr. Ahmadinejad will field questions from Mr. Bollinger as well as faculty and students. The event is to be broadcast on televisions and lounges across campus.

Mr. Bollinger said in a statement that he would question the Iranian president on human rights issues, as well as his position that Israel should be "wiped off the map" and that the Holocaust did not occur.
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But conservatives on Capitol Hill were critical. Sen. Joseph Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, said he thought the invitation to Ahmadinejad was a mistake “because he comes literally with blood on his hands.”
I couldn't agree more Lieberman.
 
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