Agnostics vs Atheism

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Minor Axis

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Ok, my question: Do atheists believe in a spiritual life, not spiritual in the presence of a God, but a continuation of awareness in another plain after physical death? Personally I've talked to two atheists and both believe when you die it's all over, oblivion forever.

As an agnostic, personally I think this is way out on a limb, just as far as believing in a particular religious dogma although I can't rule out any of it with 100% certainty. For example, you gained awareness once, and you have eternity to work with, why not gain awareness again?

You atheists if you do believe in a spirit you're not that much different than agnostics other than you don't think there is any specific God we know about, but there very well could be *something* completely beyond our current comprehension that could be given the label of God. But even I doubt it would be a single all powerful being as we think of them in religion.

Agnosticism
This from Wiki: Agnosticism (Greek: α- a-, without + γνώσις gnōsis, knowledge; after Gnosticism) is the philosophical view that the truth value of certain claims — particularly metaphysical claims regarding theology, afterlife or the existence of God, gods, deities, or even ultimate reality — is unknown or, depending on the form of agnosticism, inherently unknowable.
Demographic research services normally list agnostics in the same category as atheists and non-religious people[1], using 'agnostic' in the newer sense of 'noncommittal'[2]. However, this can be misleading given the existence of agnostic theists, who identify themselves as both agnostics in the original sense and followers of a particular religion.

Atheism
This from Wiki: Atheism, as an explicit position, either affirms the nonexistence of gods[1] or rejects theism.[2] When defined more broadly, atheism is the absence of belief in deities,[3] alternatively called nontheism.[4] Although atheism is often equated with irreligion, some religious philosophies, such as Jainism, secular theology and some varieties of Buddhism such as Theravada do not include belief in a personal god as a tenet of the religion.
Many self-described atheists are skeptical of all supernatural beings and cite a lack of empirical evidence for the existence of deities. Others argue for atheism on philosophical, social or historical grounds. Although many self-described atheists tend toward secular philosophies such as humanism[5] and naturalism,[6] there is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists adhere.[7]
 
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My personal opinion is that this life is all there is......but I'd sure love to come back for another go. :D

You developed some pretty firm opinions about why Christians are wrong about their views. If you care to talk about it, why do you lean towards oblivion after death?
 

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Simply because there is no verifiable, objective evidence to show that there is.

But there is no verifiable, objective evidence for any religious dogma or oblivion after physical death. Something had to influence you to this conclusion.

For myself being raised Christian, I had enough doubts about Christian facts, the simplicity of heaven, hell, and having a super-dad sitting in heaven, that it just seems too simple to be accurate. I do believe in this life having purpose, otherwise what's the point? Although it's possible there is no point at all. I do believe in some level of existence after physical death, but I can't prove it other than just a feeling (and watching all those Most Haunted, and Beyond shows), my brand of faith. ;)

I don't believe in any of them but they are all possible as we have no proof either way.

That's a good answer. :)
 

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I believe in some kind of god but has already been said, there's no proof either way and I'm open to different theories. It's when people start getting dogmatic and stating evolution or a god as fact that I think it gets a bit much.;)
 

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The more we learn about the world and universe the more we see the natural, and non-divine behind things.

That's not really proving god doesn't exist, just all the things that aren't god. The more we can explain through science, the more sense it makes that there is no such thing as god
 

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That's not really proving god doesn't exist, just all the things that aren't god. The more we can explain through science, the more sense it makes that there is no such thing as god
I never said I was out to prove that god exists or not. I'm just saying that there's no reason to think there is one.
 

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I never said I was out to prove that god exists or not. I'm just saying that there's no reason to think there is one.

Well, that depends on the individual. Millions of people put their trust in the Bible, the Koran, and other holy books. We can't prove or disprove the existence of God so maybe those millions are hedging their bets. ;)

There's TONS of stuff we don't know about our existence and our place in the universe. I tend to agree that every day science makes the belief in the traditional biblical Christian God harder to accept but there could still be some intelligent force that influences our existence. We just don't know.
 
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