A Question of Morality

[Accountable]

Is it moral to allow others to be immoral?

 

[Alien Allen]

Holy crap that makes my head spin

A very interesting question

Which I am not sure about

My initial thought is that we are not responsible for others actions so what we do is immaterial.

This might make for some interesting conversation with my shrink this wednesday

 

[Peter Parka]

If it's immoral to allow others to be moral, they you're immoral its its moral to allow others to be immoral then you're moral. Wait...what? :willy_nilly:

 

[HottyToddyChick]

I think you have a moral obligation to maybe try to tell them whatever they are doing is immoral, but everyone has different ideas of what is or is not moral, so it would be immoral to try to force your morals on them.

That makes perfect sense, by the way, and I am stone sober.

 

[Alien Allen]

If it's immoral to allow others to be moral, they you're immoral its its moral to allow others to be immoral then you're moral. Wait...what? :willy_nilly:

I think you have a moral obligation to maybe try to tell them whatever they are doing is immoral, but everyone has different ideas of what is or is not moral, so it would be immoral to try to force your morals on them.

That makes perfect sense, by the way, and I am stone sober.

Now you can see why my head was spinning

 

[itsmeJonB]

OP just divided by zero

 

[porterjack]

Is it moral to allow others to be immoral?

yes

based on the simple fact that if i hold such high moral standards that allowing others to trangress when i have an option to prevent such, then that must offend my high moral standards

morality is personal to the believer, it matters not what others think

 

[hart]

I don't really get the question....I mean first one has to define moral and immoral.....therein lies the whole problem....

 

[porterjack]

I don't really get the question....I mean first one has to define moral and immoral.....therein lies the whole problem....

not at all, there is no need to define it just to be consistent

i.e. if i say somehting is immoral to me, and i let you do that same thing, when i have an opportunity to stop it then surely my allowing it to happen must be offensive to my moral viewpoint

 

[hart]

See that's the thing u ALLOW ME....see that's the crux.....Like don't allow me to have an abortion, it's immoral...slippery slope that is

 

[Brujahpriest]

Since the very nature of morality is variable, I would honestly say that at it's core it is immoral to assume that another's actions (assuming they are not impeding upon your right to exist or experience your morality) are immoral and there fore it would be immoral to call someone out on their actions.

However if you know that they actions the other is doing is viewed by they themselves to be immoral, you then have every moral freedom to point it out... just be prepared for that finger to come right back.

 

[hart]

Since the very nature of morality is variable, I would honestly say that at it's core it is immoral to assume that another's actions (assuming they are not impeding upon your right to exist or experience your morality) are immoral and there fore it would be immoral to call someone out on their actions.

However if you know that they actions the other is doing is viewed by they themselves to be immoral, you then have every moral freedom to point it out... just be prepared for that finger to come right back.

that I can't disagree with

 

[Codrus]

.. just be prepared for that finger to come right back.

 

[Brujahpriest]

yeah, that's about what it's like :cool

 

[Minor Axis]

Brought over from this thread: http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread.php?p=1615554#post1615554

Once again you try to mix government and private industry. The gov't even now has for-profit contractors fighting battles in the Middle East. All gov't contracts call for contractors to treat their employees as if they were union employees, whether the company is unionized or not. When I worked construction we always looked forward to gov't contract jobs because our pay almost doubled and we got time-and-a-half overtime pay.

Contractors are not public.

You're right, and it seems that you have a problem with people calling themselves public rather than actually practicing discrimination. Had that Walgreens in 1964 called itself an exclusive drug store for whites only, your posts (and Tim's) seem to indicate that you would have no problem with them keeping blacks out.

That's what stores in the South did pre-1960s and yes I'd have a problem with it. It's a public store.

Oooooohhh! And you were doing so well,too. I understand about the moral underpinnings. I would expect and hope that the individual decision-makers use their morals. But the laws themselves have no morals and must not dictate morality. We stand for freedom and liberty, even the freedom to be immoral, so long as everyone else's freedom is not compromised. But let's move this into the other thread.

You are having a mental block about this. Again, you are kidding yourself regarding the role of morality in our lives, it's everywhere, there is no denying it is a primary factor upon which we act daily and is reflected in our laws. We have reached a point where our discussion is circular. I'm going to leave this particular exchange alone, unless you can bring a new revelation to the discussion. The best I can say is that we agree to disagree. I just happen to know that in any poll, my view would prevail.

 

[Minor Axis]

Is it moral to allow others to be immoral?

Short answer is "no", no head spinning involved. Example: serial murderer. Immoral response: have a great day. Moral response: stop him. Note: even the immoral response is a moral choice, but it is used to describe a negative morality.

 

[MjaneGibson]

Is it moral to allow others to be immoral?

Moral, not necessarily...possible to control someone and their lack of morailty...not at all.

 

[edgray]

Is it moral to allow others to be immoral?

Moral in the sense that you're respecting their right to be immoral maybe.

Morality, in a religious sense, is often so black and white I would've thought it would be immoral not to intervene, as they often do.

 

[Accountable]

yes

based on the simple fact that if i hold such high moral standards that allowing others to trangress when i have an option to prevent such, then that must offend my high moral standards

Then that's a no, isn't it?

morality is personal to the believer, it matters not what others think

Ever??

 

[Accountable]

Since the very nature of morality is variable, I would honestly say that at it's core it is immoral to assume that another's actions (assuming they are not impeding upon your right to exist or experience your morality) are immoral and there fore it would be immoral to call someone out on their actions.

However if you know that they actions the other is doing is viewed by they themselves to be immoral, you then have every moral freedom to point it out... just be prepared for that finger to come right back.

But you can point out immorality while still allowing it to happen. Some would say that words without action is even more immoral.