Guy fired for wearing Packers tie

NOT FOUND but personally. Wearing novelty ties even to work when your a professional? That's tacky. Grounds for dismissal? NO. They could have told him to take it off.
 
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I disagree. Come on, the guy works in CHICAGO. There company is trying to sell cars, make nice, etc., is it so wrong for the boss to say, look, especially THE DAY AFTER CHICAGO IS OUT OF CONTENTION FOR THE SUPERBOWL, don't rub salt in fan's wounds and wear a GB tie.

He refused to remove it, so I think, yeah, he CHOSE to risk pissing potential customers off, he chose to be fired.

I back the company
 
Ooh.... if your boss asks you to stop doing something, it's smart to stop doing it. If he got fired, that's kind of his own fault for, you know, not paying attention to authority. It's not difficult, is it?
 
The boss is within his rights, but not too smart.

I live in Atlanta and wear a beautiful leather Buccaneers jacket all winter.

You wouldn't believe the amount of people that come up to me and talk about it and isn't the most important part of a sale establishing a dialogue with a customer?

I can see how the saleman can make it work to his benefit. "Tell ya what... you buy this car and I'll toss the tie into the garbage."... and then when the guy leaves fish it out and do it all over again. :p
 
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to wear his tie other times hon, but after the home team's chances are crushed? That is rubbing salt in a wound and I back the bosses decision to tell him to remove it, then when he refused, firing him.

I have a great friend who is a Brett Favre fan, who cried when subsequent scandals broke. I don't talk about Brett Favre in front of her......
 
This is ridiculous. In all honesty if that man was unaware of a contract between the company and the Bears and he never signed anything starting that fact he needs to get himself a good lawyer.

That is unfair dismissal and his boss went completely the wrong way about it. He could possibly get away with filing discrimination charges against that company as well and it seems to be maybe the boss was a Bears fan and has a bug up his ass over there loss.

So no the Boss is not completely within his rights at all.
 
Roxi said:
This is ridiculous. In all honesty if that man was unaware of a contract between the company and the Bears and he never signed anything starting that fact he needs to get himself a good lawyer.

That is unfair dismissal and his boss went completely the wrong way about it. He could possibly get away with filing discrimination charges against that company as well and it seems to be maybe the boss was a Bears fan and has a bug up his ass over there loss.

So no the Boss is not completely within his rights at all.
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If the boss felt that the apparel was detrimental to his business then yes- he can ask the guy to remove it. Especially since the employee was in a customer-facing position.
If the sales rep refuses to remove it then yes, the boss can terminate him under the rather specious grounds of "actions detrimental to the company." It's a total dickhead move, but not illegal.

An NFL tie is not protected like a yarmulke or whatever you call the hat that Muslims wear.

On a side note... good to see you around, Mommy-To-Be. :)
 
hart said:
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to wear his tie other times hon, but after the home team's chances are crushed? That is rubbing salt in a wound and I back the bosses decision to tell him to remove it, then when he refused, firing him.

I have a great friend who is a Brett Favre fan, who cried when subsequent scandals broke. I don't talk about Brett Favre in front of her......
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who gives a shit if hes rubbing salt in the wound. whose to say he is. Hes a packers fan, his grandmother was a packers fan. His grandmother died the friday before the game. The boss didnt care that he wore it on Saturday. Only on monday. Cause hes a sore loser and afraid of losing business. Not really good business when your company makes the news on something negative

He said no customers complained about it but was still early, but wasnt gonna give them a chance to do it.

The firing was not justified and really not legal If the dress code says, you must wear, pants, shirt and a tie. He should not of gotten fired. but i dont really know that states laws but was def. unfair if not illegal
 
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Unless it was in the employee handbook that such attire was inappropriate, he has grounds for a wrongful termination lawsuit. Just like the union worker that was fired from setting up a state for an Obama event while wearing a U.S.S. George H.W. Bush aircraft carrier shirt and hat a while back.
 
USF Sam said:
If the boss felt that the apparel was detrimental to his business then yes- he can ask the guy to remove it. Especially since the employee was in a customer-facing position.
If the sales rep refuses to remove it then yes, the boss can terminate him under the rather specious grounds of "actions detrimental to the company." It's a total dickhead move, but not illegal.

An NFL tie is not protected like a yarmulke or whatever you call the hat that Muslims wear.

On a side note... good to see you around, Mommy-To-Be. :)
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The boss cannot pick and choose when something is or isn't detrimental to the company. It was acceptable on Saturday, so he can't arbitrarily decide that something is unacceptable on Monday. It would be different if he was allowed to dress outside of the dress code on one day (say a casual Friday), and then showed up on Monday wearing that same attire. He was dressed appropriately according to the dress code, and the attire was appropriate two days previously. Therefore the boss in this case was outside of his legal rights to terminate him based on the tie. Especially when you consider that if the tie was required to be in the dress code, asking him to remove it would be unacceptable as well.
 
USF Sam said:
If the boss felt that the apparel was detrimental to his business then yes- he can ask the guy to remove it. Especially since the employee was in a customer-facing position.
If the sales rep refuses to remove it then yes, the boss can terminate him under the rather specious grounds of "actions detrimental to the company." It's a total dickhead move, but not illegal.

An NFL tie is not protected like a yarmulke or whatever you call the hat that Muslims wear.

On a side note... good to see you around, Mommy-To-Be. :)
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Actually Sam he does not have a right to ask this man to remove anything UNLESS it breaks rules set on the contract he signed when he started working there. Most contracts signed do state that clothing or physical properties i.e Tattoos and or piercings that offend others may not be worn while in conduct at work... HOWEVER the man states that no one complained not even his work colleges just the boss himself WHO should have pulled him aside into his office and explained the situation calmly to the man instead of yelling at him or even talking to him in front of his peers. So not the boss had no right to fire him, if the guy blankly refused to take it off then yes I could see there being a problem but he was unaware of a contract with the Cubs and most likely felt he was being discriminated against for his choice in fanship.

Bottom line is even if his tie offended people he should have been pulled aside in a calm manner and asked to remove it and explained why... So no he does not deserve to be fired... And it is discrimination even if you choose to believe it or not.
 
hart said:
I'm not saying he shouldn't be allowed to wear his tie other times hon, but after the home team's chances are crushed? That is rubbing salt in a wound and I back the bosses decision to tell him to remove it, then when he refused, firing him.

I have a great friend who is a Brett Favre fan, who cried when subsequent scandals broke. I don't talk about Brett Favre in front of her......
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Look at the distance between Chicago and the Wisconsin border... it's about an hour and a half with traffic. It stands to reason that there would be a number of Packers fans living in Chicago.

If it would be acceptable for him to have worn a Bears tie, it is discrimination, regardless of whether or not it is based on a sports team. It may not be protected like religious apparel might be, but it's a double standard.

Hell, for all the boss knows, him wearing a Packers tie could have helped him sell a vehicle to a Packers fan.
 
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